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== Name meaning/origin == | == Name meaning/origin == | ||
His name is Swedish. Like Siebold, it's generally used as a surname. It is composed of the elements vik meaning "bay" + ström "river". It is pronounced "VIK-stroom". {{unsigned| | His name is Swedish. Like Siebold, it's generally used as a surname. It is composed of the elements vik meaning "bay" + ström "river". It is pronounced "VIK-stroom". [[User:Bry Landry|Bry Landry]] ([[User talk:Bry Landry|talk]]) 17:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
::he's not a water-type trainer though. --<b>[[User talk:Relicant|<span style="color:#EBEBEB;">The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|<span style="color:#F08030;">Truth</span>]]</b> aka Relicant 07:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, but what is there now is a plant genus name. And he's not a grass-type trainer either. So I don't think it matters. [[User:Bry Landry|Bry Landry]] ([[User talk:Bry Landry|talk]]) 17:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::It matters because plants are the naming convention for X and Y. Bays and rivers don't have anything to do with the character. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 18:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::Is there official confirmation of this? [[User:Bry Landry|Bry Landry]] ([[User talk:Bry Landry|talk]]) 19:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::The games themselves? --<b>[[User talk:Relicant|<span style="color:#EBEBEB;">The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|<span style="color:#F08030;">Truth</span>]]</b> aka Relicant 19:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::I mean where is it that plants are the naming convention? Did I miss something? [[User:Bry Landry|Bry Landry]] ([[User talk:Bry Landry|talk]]) 21:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::Both the Japanese and English name origins on most Kalos characters' page list plants (and often the same plant in both languages for each character), so it's by observation of the pattern, not an official confirmation. It's like how Kanto towns are named after colors or Unova towns are named after cloud formations. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Ahh, gotcha. [[User:Bry Landry|Bry Landry]] ([[User talk:Bry Landry|talk]]) 00:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== His Key Stone == | |||
I understand he's set to appear in ''[[M17|Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction]]'' in a battle with [[Diantha]]. Are they going to announce where he keeps his [[Key Stone]]? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}} | |||
:The movie came out half a month ago. If people haven't reported it, we'll find out when it comes out on DVD or debuts as a dub. And sign your comments with four tildes. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: I forgot, again, but thank you for the answer and the reminder. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 12:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67 | |||
== Shadow Claw Scizor? == | |||
I'm wondering why it says that his Scizor knows an illegal move Shadow Claw? Since the scene has no dialogue, wouldn't it be more plausible that it was Night Slash? [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 04:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
:That would make a lot more sense--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
::The user that changed it from Night Slash to Shadow Claw provided no source, and the user that added Night Slash provided no source too. So it is assumed that they are just guessing what the move is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC | |||
:::I'd change it back to "None of Scizor's moves are known" and add a commented out message to not add either move if the two sides were just guessing, but that's just me. '''''[[User:Gengarzilla|Gengar]][[User talk:Gengarzilla|zilla!]]''''' 06:15, 20 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::I changed it to "None of its moves could be identified" since it was seen using a move, unlike the usual context of the line in these Pokémon bios where a Pokémon just doesn’t use any moves at all. I’ll understand if anyone opposes it though--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::It's the standard wording used on every anime article, regardless of whether the Pokemon actually used a move or not. It's not implying that it didn't use a move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:51, 20 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Probopass anime== | |||
Can anyone confirm what Probopass did in the anime on Ash, Goh and their Pokemon, not sure if it was Gravity of Magnetic Pull--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
:It was referred to as a "strong magnetic field", so it definitely isn't Gravity. I'd personally say calling it Magnet Pull wouldn't be far-fetched. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:06, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 18:07, 20 February 2021
Probopass
In case anybody's wondering, Probopass had full health when I KO'ed it. If it had Sturdy it would have survived the hit and therefore I wouldn't have edited the main article. --The Truth aka Relicant 17:54, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- First turn, Earth Power, level 100 Flygon. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 18:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Just a quick thought, but it could depend on what version of the game it is. That or Probopass had some sort of prior damage. --Super goku (talk) 18:34, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Probopass had been Full Restored before my Tyrantrum attacked, so having prior damage would be impossible. --The Truth aka Relicant 18:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've learned from experience that Sturdy no longer works when the Pokémon's damaged, so I don't see it not having Sturdy. Pokedex493 (talk) 18:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's Sturdy in Y too. What attack did your Tyrantrum use? ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 19:01, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- I already said: Earthquake. Are we sure the Ability isn't randomized? --The Truth aka Relicant 19:04, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- I went over the discussion and saw no mention of the move so I asked. Anyway, yes, I am positive it's not random and Probopass had some damage already done to it somehow. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 19:09, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've learned from experience that Sturdy no longer works when the Pokémon's damaged, so I don't see it not having Sturdy. Pokedex493 (talk) 18:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Probopass had been Full Restored before my Tyrantrum attacked, so having prior damage would be impossible. --The Truth aka Relicant 18:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- How does one place prior damage on a Pokémon that is fully healed right before being one-hit KOed? Also since I have a feeling someone's going to ask this: No, I did not swap Probopass' Ability. --The Truth aka Relicant 19:12, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Anybody figured out this mystery yet? I'm still confused. --The Truth aka Relicant 16:58, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
- Is it possible that Sturdy has changed so that recovery items that take a Pokemon back up to full do not allow Sturdy to activate again? (In other words, is it possible that now Sturdy only activates if the first hit a Pokemon takes would KO it?) Can someone do some research on this? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
- Tested this with Mega Mewtwo X. Sturdy still activates even if the Pokémon has been healed back to full health. The mystery continues... --The Truth aka Relicant 09:52, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- Just a quick thought, but it could depend on what version of the game it is. That or Probopass had some sort of prior damage. --Super goku (talk) 18:34, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Anybody solved it yet? --The Truth aka Relicant 00:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- My two cents: Every time I fight Wikstrom's Probopass, he Full Restores it three times because of Sturdy, each time. The only way to avoid it is to give it minimal damage first. Because the cited Pokemon that attacked it is Tyrantrum, perhaps the original poster had laid out Stealth Rock on a prior Pokemon before Probopass came out. --The Great Butler (talk) 23:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- How could there be damage if Wikstrom Full Restored just before I killed Probopass? --The Truth aka Relicant 07:40, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- Can we dismiss this as a glitch, or is it the info insufficient? --The Truth aka Relicant 19:58, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think something happened you simply missed. Not a glitch, its ability is not up for debate, you simply made a minor mistake. It happens to everyone. Move on. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 20:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Question
Does Wikstrom even speak English? Because I'm pretty sure "mayhap" isn't a word. --The Truth aka Relicant 22:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure you didn't even bother to google it. It's basically an archaic version of "maybe", so it's perfectly fitting for him to use.--電禅Den Zen 22:46, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Question 2
Is his Japanese name Gampi or Ganpi? I'll stop adding things to the talk page now. --The Truth aka Relicant 23:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- ん and ン are pronounced "m" before "p", so I'd hypothesize it's "Gampi" (though I don't speak Japanese myself). Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:15, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Coincidence?
"My will, which even shakes spears, trembles at so fine a battle as this!"
Either I'm overthinking, or this was an intended reference to William Shakespeare. --The Truth aka Relicant 12:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Nobody's responded within over 2 hours. I'm calling intentional. --The Truth aka Relicant 15:34, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- It really doesn't seem like an intentional reference to me. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 15:42, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Is this notable enough for a trivia point? --The Truth aka Relicant 18:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm assuming it is. --The Truth aka Relicant 20:34, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Just because nobody responds doesn't mean you're right. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- It's pretty conclusive, given that Wikstrom speaks in a sort of prose, but there's still nothing else to confirm or deny it. -- Pringles 21:03, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
tbh it would be better to put the info here than to waste a trivia point on Wikstrom's article (the Psychic page doesn't reference the DBZ reference in XY for example). --The Truth aka Relicant 18:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Despite there not being much conclusive evidence (as stated above), I think that the quote does count as a Shakespeare reference (as much as I've loathed seeing his name lately... XD). The prose-based dialogue of Wikstrom can allude to William Shakespeare's presumed style of speech and writing, and I hardly ever see the phrase "shakes spears" used in a normal context unless the reference is specifically oriented towards William Shakespeare in some way. As for where to put the trivia point, I don't see why it can't be on both Wikstrom's article and the List of references to popular culture in Pokémon (the latter of which seems unfortunately incomplete and rarely linked to); the statement does stem from one of Wikstrom's own quotes, anyway. As for the apparent omission of the Dragon Ball Z "over 9000" meme mention on the Psychic Trainer class's article, it could be that someone just never got around to it. Fenyx4 (talk) 03:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- It's not good to duplicate trivia points if we can avoid doing so. Putting it on the pop culture references article is fine; it's unnecessary to also put it here. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Despite there not being much conclusive evidence (as stated above), I think that the quote does count as a Shakespeare reference (as much as I've loathed seeing his name lately... XD). The prose-based dialogue of Wikstrom can allude to William Shakespeare's presumed style of speech and writing, and I hardly ever see the phrase "shakes spears" used in a normal context unless the reference is specifically oriented towards William Shakespeare in some way. As for where to put the trivia point, I don't see why it can't be on both Wikstrom's article and the List of references to popular culture in Pokémon (the latter of which seems unfortunately incomplete and rarely linked to); the statement does stem from one of Wikstrom's own quotes, anyway. As for the apparent omission of the Dragon Ball Z "over 9000" meme mention on the Psychic Trainer class's article, it could be that someone just never got around to it. Fenyx4 (talk) 03:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- The DBZ reference was actually in the trivia for Route 10. SeanWheeler (talk) 04:26, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Name meaning/origin
His name is Swedish. Like Siebold, it's generally used as a surname. It is composed of the elements vik meaning "bay" + ström "river". It is pronounced "VIK-stroom". Bry Landry (talk) 17:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- he's not a water-type trainer though. --The Truth aka Relicant 07:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but what is there now is a plant genus name. And he's not a grass-type trainer either. So I don't think it matters. Bry Landry (talk) 17:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- It matters because plants are the naming convention for X and Y. Bays and rivers don't have anything to do with the character. Glik (talk) 18:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Is there official confirmation of this? Bry Landry (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- The games themselves? --The Truth aka Relicant 19:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- I mean where is it that plants are the naming convention? Did I miss something? Bry Landry (talk) 21:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Both the Japanese and English name origins on most Kalos characters' page list plants (and often the same plant in both languages for each character), so it's by observation of the pattern, not an official confirmation. It's like how Kanto towns are named after colors or Unova towns are named after cloud formations. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Ahh, gotcha. Bry Landry (talk) 00:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Both the Japanese and English name origins on most Kalos characters' page list plants (and often the same plant in both languages for each character), so it's by observation of the pattern, not an official confirmation. It's like how Kanto towns are named after colors or Unova towns are named after cloud formations. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- I mean where is it that plants are the naming convention? Did I miss something? Bry Landry (talk) 21:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- It matters because plants are the naming convention for X and Y. Bays and rivers don't have anything to do with the character. Glik (talk) 18:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but what is there now is a plant genus name. And he's not a grass-type trainer either. So I don't think it matters. Bry Landry (talk) 17:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- he's not a water-type trainer though. --The Truth aka Relicant 07:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
His Key Stone
I understand he's set to appear in Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction in a battle with Diantha. Are they going to announce where he keeps his Key Stone? - unsigned comment from WATERWARRIOR67 (talk • contribs)
- The movie came out half a month ago. If people haven't reported it, we'll find out when it comes out on DVD or debuts as a dub. And sign your comments with four tildes. Ataro (talk) 12:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- I forgot, again, but thank you for the answer and the reminder. WATERWARRIOR67 (talk) 12:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67
Shadow Claw Scizor?
I'm wondering why it says that his Scizor knows an illegal move Shadow Claw? Since the scene has no dialogue, wouldn't it be more plausible that it was Night Slash? TehPerson (talk) 04:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- That would make a lot more sense--KnightGalarie (talk) 04:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- The user that changed it from Night Slash to Shadow Claw provided no source, and the user that added Night Slash provided no source too. So it is assumed that they are just guessing what the move is.--ForceFire 06:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC
- I'd change it back to "None of Scizor's moves are known" and add a commented out message to not add either move if the two sides were just guessing, but that's just me. Gengarzilla! 06:15, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- I changed it to "None of its moves could be identified" since it was seen using a move, unlike the usual context of the line in these Pokémon bios where a Pokémon just doesn’t use any moves at all. I’ll understand if anyone opposes it though--KnightGalarie (talk) 06:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'd change it back to "None of Scizor's moves are known" and add a commented out message to not add either move if the two sides were just guessing, but that's just me. Gengarzilla! 06:15, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- The user that changed it from Night Slash to Shadow Claw provided no source, and the user that added Night Slash provided no source too. So it is assumed that they are just guessing what the move is.--ForceFire 06:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC
Probopass anime
Can anyone confirm what Probopass did in the anime on Ash, Goh and their Pokemon, not sure if it was Gravity of Magnetic Pull--BigDocFan (talk) 17:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- It was referred to as a "strong magnetic field", so it definitely isn't Gravity. I'd personally say calling it Magnet Pull wouldn't be far-fetched. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:06, 20 February 2021 (UTC)