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==In reference to both of the above topics . . .== | ==In reference to both of the above topics . . .== | ||
I think the effects for this move need to be split into Generations. I don't think all the moves on the chart are withhelf from Metronome in all generations. for example, I'm fairly certain I remember there being a great deal of controversy in Generation II when people figured out that Metronome could Sketch a move, technically expanding several Pokémon's movesets if going completely by RAW and ignoring the spirit of the learnsets. Also, I'm not completely sure Metronome couldn't select a move you already know in all the Generations. So, overall, what I'm looking for is some one who ''really'' knows his Metronome to take a look at this article. [[User:Schreiber|Schreiber]] 23:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC) | I think the effects for this move need to be split into Generations. I don't think all the moves on the chart are withhelf from Metronome in all generations. for example, I'm fairly certain I remember there being a great deal of controversy in Generation II when people figured out that Metronome could Sketch a move, technically expanding several Pokémon's movesets if going completely by RAW and ignoring the spirit of the learnsets. Also, I'm not completely sure Metronome couldn't select a move you already know in all the Generations. So, overall, what I'm looking for is some one who ''really'' knows his Metronome to take a look at this article. [[User:Schreiber|Schreiber]] 23:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
::For the benefit of users reading this later: Metronome in GSC cannot Metronome Sketch (However, there *is* a Sketch bug in GSC concerning Transform, with Metronome *can* call). GSC Metronome can call any move except Metronome itself, Struggle, Sketch, Mimic, Counter, Mirror Coat, Protect, Detect, Endure, Destiny Bond, Sleep Talk and Thief. --[[User:FIQ|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ|talk]]) 21:22, 17 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
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I know that Metronome could be used to execute Judgment in Gen IV, but I've notice that Gen V excludes a lot of signature moves that work differently for their respective Pokemon (e.g. Techno Blast for Genesect, Relic Song for Meloetta). Is Judgment still on the list of usable moves for Metronome? What about Grudge, which functions like Destiny Bond? [[User:Gymnotide|Gymnotide]] 09:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC) | I know that Metronome could be used to execute Judgment in Gen IV, but I've notice that Gen V excludes a lot of signature moves that work differently for their respective Pokemon (e.g. Techno Blast for Genesect, Relic Song for Meloetta). Is Judgment still on the list of usable moves for Metronome? What about Grudge, which functions like Destiny Bond? [[User:Gymnotide|Gymnotide]] 09:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
:I'm not sure about the others, but I've had Judgment selected by Metronome before in Gen V --[[User:Maddiesapphire|Maddiesapphire]] ([[User talk:Maddiesapphire|talk]]) 03:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC) | :I'm not sure about the others, but I've had Judgment selected by Metronome before in Gen V --[[User:Maddiesapphire|Maddiesapphire]] ([[User talk:Maddiesapphire|talk]]) 03:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I just had Judgment called in Ultra Moon, so it's still included in Gen VII as well. Not that there's much reason to think it wouldn't be. What I'm really curious about is Light of Ruin. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 16:21, 6 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Gen II and III description trivia == | == Gen II and III description trivia == | ||
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[[User:Prussiahena|Prussiahena]] ([[User talk:Prussiahena|talk]]) 22:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC) | [[User:Prussiahena|Prussiahena]] ([[User talk:Prussiahena|talk]]) 22:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
== List of uncallable moves is outdated == | |||
No, this isn't about how the list doesn't include gen VII (although it doesn't). It doesn't even include gen VI! It only goes up to V. This is kind of silly. [[User:GolgothasTerror|golgothasTerror]] ([[User talk:GolgothasTerror|talk]]) 17:42, 19 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Snorlium Z Munchlax == | |||
I'm trying to add that the [[List_of_American_region_Nintendo_Network_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_VII#Snorlium_Z_Munchlax|Snorlium Z Munchlax]] knows Metronome but have no idea how to use the template. Can someone put it in? | |||
--<span style="color:#0411EC">[[User:Mira Zannah|Mira]]</span> <span style="color:#09C202">[[User_talk:Mira Zannah|Zannah]]</span> 15:47, 30 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Mirror Move == | |||
In 2015, a user [[Special:Diff/2260654|added]] both {{m|Assist}} and {{m|Metronome}} as uncallable moves in Generation III. However, as demonstrated [https://youtu.be/fkszBlUdGak?t=3m46s here] (and noted above by {{u|Dracometeor12}}), Assist can be called by Metronome in Generation III. This immediately calls into question the credibility of it being unable to call Mirror Move. Can anyone verify whether or not it can call Mirror Move in Generation III? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Can we please change the grid icons for which moves it can't use? == | |||
Despite the note above, it's a bit confusing that green checkmarks mean Metronome <B>can't</b> select it. You know what I mean? I feel like it should be swapped. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:18, 12 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
:It's in the "unselectable moves" section, there's a line that says the green checkmark means it cannot be selected. If anyone is still confused, then they are clearly not reading the article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:40, 13 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
::I think changing unselectable moves to be crosses and selectable moves to be checks makes sense; it does seem more intuitive. Just as long as we preserve the line explaining what the checks and crosses mean. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:27, 13 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
== why does belch lack an icon for gen 6? == | |||
on the unselectable moves table, the square for belch in gen 6 has neither a check nor a cross and is a blank square. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 20:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
==Can Metronome copy Shadow moves== | |||
Well, can it? I don’t play the Orre games, but I feel like it would be good to know [[User:HansonKerman|HansonKerman]] ([[User talk:HansonKerman|talk]]) 15:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Confirmation== | |||
Metronome can select moves the user knows in Gen 9, I was using Metronome with a Delphox and randomly got Flamethrower, which it already knew. [[User:PinkYoshiGaming|PinkYoshiGaming]] ([[User talk:PinkYoshiGaming|talk]]) 06:08, 3 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Metronome and Pressure == | |||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsRiEqEvCD8 This video] shows that Metronome doesn't affect {{a|Pressure}} but [[Smogon]]'s Metronome battles ban Pressure because it is easy to PP stall. Should we test to see if Metronome interacting with Pressure is a later gen thing? [[User:Pikmin3WiiU|<span style="color:green">Pikmin 3</span>]] [[User talk:Pikmin3WiiU|<span style="color:purple">Wii U</span>]] 01:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Tutor
Does anybody know what pokemon can learn this by the move tutor in emerald?--Acfan 22:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Try looking up Metronome on Serebii.net's Attackdex.--Pokencyclopedia 23:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- See, this is exactly why we need to put some useful information in these entries, so we don't have to refer people to other sites. --Argy 04:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Metronome and Sketch
The article states that Metronome can call on any move other than itself and Struggle, but I was curious to know what the situation is regarding Sketch. Can it be called? If so, does it automatically fail? Whatever the answer, it could make an interesting (if minor) addition to the article. Bikini MiltankMoo, I say. 23:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- This is a good question and I wonder why nobody has answered since November Rawr I say! 22:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Contradictory statements
It says metronome can use a move that has been disabled, but it also says that it can't use a move that the user knows. How can it use a move that's disabled if it can't use a move the user know!?! Unless it means a disabled move the opponent has, in which case it's not worth mentioning. [[Derian]]
- I think it means that if the Pokémon used say, Water Gun through Metronome and then the opponent used Disable, Water Gun could still be used through Metronome. However, the article is not very clear and the line saying that it can use a disabled move may need removing. --SnorlaxMonster. Help here 08:57, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
In reference to both of the above topics . . .
I think the effects for this move need to be split into Generations. I don't think all the moves on the chart are withhelf from Metronome in all generations. for example, I'm fairly certain I remember there being a great deal of controversy in Generation II when people figured out that Metronome could Sketch a move, technically expanding several Pokémon's movesets if going completely by RAW and ignoring the spirit of the learnsets. Also, I'm not completely sure Metronome couldn't select a move you already know in all the Generations. So, overall, what I'm looking for is some one who really knows his Metronome to take a look at this article. Schreiber 23:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- For the benefit of users reading this later: Metronome in GSC cannot Metronome Sketch (However, there *is* a Sketch bug in GSC concerning Transform, with Metronome *can* call). GSC Metronome can call any move except Metronome itself, Struggle, Sketch, Mimic, Counter, Mirror Coat, Protect, Detect, Endure, Destiny Bond, Sleep Talk and Thief. --FIQ (talk) 21:22, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Metal Burst
Can this move be called on from Metronome? I'm wondering since it's similar to Counter and Mirror Coat. ht14 00:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Just right now my togekisss Utopia used metronome and used metal burst. I was facing the elite four in my diamond just to see what moves i would get. Utopia was first and used metronome, then metal burst. It failed. Mikewolf
Using moves a Pokémon already knows?
I distinctly remember in LeafGreen when I had a Clefairy that knew Metronome, Water Pulse, and Meteor Mash, and on more than one occasion Metronome called upon at least both Water Pulse and Meteor Mash one time each. Anyone care to investigate? --[[User:Falchiar]]( [[User talk:Falchiar]] ) 20:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I vaugely recall a Magmar I had in Gold. Its Metronome frequently called up ThunderPunch, despite the fact that it already knew the move. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 02:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- it may be that metronome cant use any move in a pokemons natural learn set, but can use moves that the pokemon can learn through tm's and hm's Slowking770 20:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I took out the section saying that metronome will not select any moves known by the user because in White version, my Togepi with metronome has called moves that it knows with metronome. I don't think I am wrong, but someone correct me if I am for whatever reason. -Maddiesapphire (talk) 16:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Notable?
I think it's notable that Metronome could come up Judgement, Arceus's signature move...BEFORE Arceus was officialy revealed. Flyingtypefan 08:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not so much. The code for Judgment was still in the game, as was the coding for Arceus. —darklordtrom 08:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
You may have misunderstood-of course the coding was already in the game, but the point was that the Pokemon that can use them weren't officialy revealed yet, but the moves could be discovered before that, which would mean everyone would know that there was going to be a new Pokemon. I thought that it was trivia worthy. Flyingtypefan 07:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- Metronome could use Psycho Boost/Doom Desire in Gen III before Deoxys and Jirachi were revealed... Metronome could pick Blast Burn/Frenzy Plant/Hydro Cannon before they were officially available... hell Metronome could pick Volt Tackle before Emerald was released. This is nothing new. ▫▫ティナ♫★ 02:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Umm...
In Generation III, I have a Snorlax that knows both Metronome and Surf (the other moves aren't important). Now, the article states that Pokémon cannot Metronome moves it already knows, but it Metronomed Surf. Now that I think of it, for a while it only used the moves it already knew. Pawsrent 22:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Dark Void used by metronome?
I was trainning my togetic and had him use metronome and I noticed he used Dark Void. It's not listed as a possible move that can show up when using metronome, anyone else get this move when using metronome? I was playing on SoulSilver by the way and it did put the opponent to sleep.--Fyre Dancer 23:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- The list on the page is a list of moves that can't be used through Metronome. It's done that way because the other 525 odd moves all can be, and so it is more efficient to list them that way. Werdnae (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Metronome and Assist
On the list for metronome, Assist is the very first move that cannot be used via Metronome, but in my FireRed, I had a Hitmonchan that knew Metronome (via the tutor) and it used Assist, then my Venusaur's Giga Drain. Dracometeor12 22:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
I believe in Generation III Assist was not on the list of impossible moves...just a thought though. ISB 22:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Metronome and Judgment
I know that Metronome could be used to execute Judgment in Gen IV, but I've notice that Gen V excludes a lot of signature moves that work differently for their respective Pokemon (e.g. Techno Blast for Genesect, Relic Song for Meloetta). Is Judgment still on the list of usable moves for Metronome? What about Grudge, which functions like Destiny Bond? Gymnotide 09:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the others, but I've had Judgment selected by Metronome before in Gen V --Maddiesapphire (talk) 03:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- I just had Judgment called in Ultra Moon, so it's still included in Gen VII as well. Not that there's much reason to think it wouldn't be. What I'm really curious about is Light of Ruin. - Xelrog T. Apocalypse (talk) 16:21, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Gen II and III description trivia
Should it be mentioned in the trivia that the GSC description and all the Gen III descriptions say that it can use any Pokémon move when that's not true?Micamike45 (talk) 18:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Missing Generation VI moves
Can we change the template for research for any of the Generation VI moves that can't be selected, I placed the incomplete template so this can be changed into a research template. --Cinday123 (Talk) 09:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Metronome and Hold Back
Metronome does copy Hold Back, my Togepi just pulled it off (for barely any damage). I hope that helps the Gen VI research. Sneaking from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost... Gengarzilla! 23:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I remember that coming up before Hold Back was officially available. It and Celebrate could both be called by Metronome. --SnorlaxMonster 10:13, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Metronome (move) and Metronome (item)
I'm probably not the first one to wonder this, but would the Metronome item boost the move selected by the Metronome move or not? The UI has the same move (Metronome) selected, while the battle, in one sense, had the choosen move used instead. --TruePikachu (talk) 05:25, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Metronome accuracy
I was training my mew (around level 35) in the freind safari, I use metronome, it turns into gullitone, it hits. This happened again in the same circumstances only with sheer cold instead, and a third time in a link battle. So I now think that moves called by metronome have 100% accuracy. Can someone verify this for me?
Prussiahena (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
List of uncallable moves is outdated
No, this isn't about how the list doesn't include gen VII (although it doesn't). It doesn't even include gen VI! It only goes up to V. This is kind of silly. golgothasTerror (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Snorlium Z Munchlax
I'm trying to add that the Snorlium Z Munchlax knows Metronome but have no idea how to use the template. Can someone put it in? --Mira Zannah 15:47, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Mirror Move
In 2015, a user added both Assist and Metronome as uncallable moves in Generation III. However, as demonstrated here (and noted above by Dracometeor12), Assist can be called by Metronome in Generation III. This immediately calls into question the credibility of it being unable to call Mirror Move. Can anyone verify whether or not it can call Mirror Move in Generation III? --SnorlaxMonster 13:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Can we please change the grid icons for which moves it can't use?
Despite the note above, it's a bit confusing that green checkmarks mean Metronome can't select it. You know what I mean? I feel like it should be swapped. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 16:18, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's in the "unselectable moves" section, there's a line that says the green checkmark means it cannot be selected. If anyone is still confused, then they are clearly not reading the article.--ForceFire 04:40, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
why does belch lack an icon for gen 6?
on the unselectable moves table, the square for belch in gen 6 has neither a check nor a cross and is a blank square. Pikachu210 (talk) 20:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Can Metronome copy Shadow moves
Well, can it? I don’t play the Orre games, but I feel like it would be good to know HansonKerman (talk) 15:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Confirmation
Metronome can select moves the user knows in Gen 9, I was using Metronome with a Delphox and randomly got Flamethrower, which it already knew. PinkYoshiGaming (talk) 06:08, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Metronome and Pressure
This video shows that Metronome doesn't affect Pressure but Smogon's Metronome battles ban Pressure because it is easy to PP stall. Should we test to see if Metronome interacting with Pressure is a later gen thing? Pikmin 3 Wii U 01:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)