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What are the chances to get a Shiny Pokemon via Time Capsule? Because I got a Shiny Shroomish by trade, and the location on its summary page said something like "This Pokemon arrived from Hoenn, after a long travel through time" Could someone fill me in?  --[[User:YatzSliversword|YatzSliversword]] ([[User talk:YatzSliversword|talk]]) 17:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:You are confusing the Time Capsule with [[Pal Park]]. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 23:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
==Dongle==
==Dongle==
Is [[Dongle method]] an appropriate link? It's Pal Park, not Time Capsule, which requires it. posted by [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]][[Image:Ani003MS.gif]] 13:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Is [[Dongle method]] an appropriate link? It's Pal Park, not Time Capsule, which requires it. posted by [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 13:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 
== Moves ==
 
Is it possible to trade Pokemon from G/S/C to R/B who have learned moves in G/S/C that are available in Generation I but are unable to learn them in R/B? For example, if a Starmie learned Confuse Ray in Gold, would I be able to trade it back to Red although it can't learn Confuse Ray in Red?
 
:Yes, any move that exists in [[Generation I]] can be traded back from [[Generation II]] to Generation I, just as long as it's on a Generation I Pokémon and that Pokémon doesn't know any Generation II moves.
 
:The Time Capsule only checks for Generation II Pokémon, and then Generation II moves.  If your party has none of that, you can enter the Time Capsule, even if the only method for a Pokémon to learn a Generation I-origin move is in Generation II (i.e. elemental punches on Alakazam).  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:: I recall someone back in the day with a Level 5 Bulbasaur with Petal Dance, which he bred on G/S/C and traded back to R/B/Y. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 07:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, that would work as Petal Dance is a Generation I move, although Bulbasaur can only learn it in Generation II. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== What about apricorn balls ==
 
What happens if you trade a pokemon in one of the apricorn balls to the generation I games? Would they just change into regular pokeballs? {{unsigned|Blazaking}}
:Back then, PokéBalls didn't have any differences when a Pokémon appeared on the battle field. Different animations, as well as a picture of the PokéBall you captured your Pokémon with, wasn't available until Generation III. The only differences in Generation II they had was that they would be different colors when thrown at a Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 07:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
This wouldn't be a problem as in Gen I Pokemon couldn't hold items anyways... Zendude 17:23, Nov 10 2009
 
== When exactly available? (G,S) ==
 
I've met Bill inside the Pokemon Center of Ecruteak City, he is now back again in Goldenrod City but i still can't use the Time Capsule.
It still says that it's under repair o.o [[User:OMG|OMG]] 02:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:You have to wait until past midnight :) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 
== Tradebacks and held items ==
 
Now, I know most GSC batteries are dead by now and King's Rocks are a pain to get in those games anyway, but what would happen if you, theoretically, traded a Slowpoke from Generation II back to Generation I while it was holding a King's Rock, then immediately traded back? Would it become a Slowking in GSC and thus be able to be traded as a glitch Pokémon back to Generation I? After all, the Time Capsule doesn't prevent a Gen I trade-evolution Pokémon like Graveler from learning Rollout after it evolves into Golem if it's traded at level 31, thus leading to a glitch move being usable if it is traded back immediately... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
:I just did it. Nothing happens. Slowpoke doesn't evolve. --'''''[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Dr. James|tell me]])</small> 02:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
::It even shouldn't work, as Pokémon didn't held items back in Gen I. The item probably got erased in the process, didn't it? Thus Slowpoke had no reason to evolve... --[[User:TakeruDavis|<sup><span style="color:#009900">Takeru</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#4444FF">Davis</span></sub>]][[:a:File:TakeruDavis.gif|<sup>[1]</sup>]] 15:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
:::They don't. How else you can get {{DL|Stat-enhancing item|Light Ball}} in Generation II, than by trading the starter Pikachu from Yellow? [[Held item|Also]], "''This capability was first introduced in Generation II; however, when a Pokémon obtained in Generation I is traded to a Generation II game through the Time Capsule, it may be holding an item, such as a TM09 held by an Abra. Likewise, items held by Pokémon traded to Generation I will not be lost. ''" [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 
== Held item list? ==
 
Is there a list of items which Pokémon traded from Generation I can be holding? The closest I found was on the [[Catch Rate]] page, but that only lists the four items available specifically by trading up from Yellow (and not things like TMs or the like). I think if there is such a list it should either be included on this page or linked from it. —[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:06, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:[[List of Pokémon by wild held item (Generation II)]]. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 18:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, I couldn't find it! But the question remains—should that page be linked from this one in the part where it discusses held items? I think it'd certainly help.—[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 01:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
:::I added the link to that list so that readers can easily find the info. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 15:19, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 
== Mail ==
 
According to the Virtual Console manual, you can't trade Pokémon to Generation I if they are holding Mail. We don't currently note this on the page. I'm not in a position to test this, so could someone do so? Also, determine whether you're prevented from entering if a Pokémon holds Mail, or if you simply cannot trade it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 19:29, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 
== Held Items ==
 
As I said in the edits' text...
Held items exist in Gen I. They're stored as the catch rate. You can see this by putting an held item on a Pokémon, trading it to Gen I and looking at its summary from the Gen II game. The item stays. And the everstone works one-way.
You can even test what I said by doing the following... Abra holding everstone traded to gen 1 from gen 2 -> Evolves to Kadabra by levelup in gen 1 -> Trade it back to gen 2 = No evolution to Alakazam -> Trade it again to gen 1 = Evolution to Alakazam
 
--[[User:Lorenzooone|Lorenzooone]] ([[User talk:Lorenzooone|talk]]) 20:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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What are the chances to get a Shiny Pokemon via Time Capsule? Because I got a Shiny Shroomish by trade, and the location on its summary page said something like "This Pokemon arrived from Hoenn, after a long travel through time" Could someone fill me in? --YatzSliversword (talk) 17:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

You are confusing the Time Capsule with Pal Park. SatoMew 23:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Dongle

Is Dongle method an appropriate link? It's Pal Park, not Time Capsule, which requires it. posted by Flicky1991 13:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Moves

Is it possible to trade Pokemon from G/S/C to R/B who have learned moves in G/S/C that are available in Generation I but are unable to learn them in R/B? For example, if a Starmie learned Confuse Ray in Gold, would I be able to trade it back to Red although it can't learn Confuse Ray in Red?

Yes, any move that exists in Generation I can be traded back from Generation II to Generation I, just as long as it's on a Generation I Pokémon and that Pokémon doesn't know any Generation II moves.
The Time Capsule only checks for Generation II Pokémon, and then Generation II moves. If your party has none of that, you can enter the Time Capsule, even if the only method for a Pokémon to learn a Generation I-origin move is in Generation II (i.e. elemental punches on Alakazam). --Shiningpikablu252 22:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I recall someone back in the day with a Level 5 Bulbasaur with Petal Dance, which he bred on G/S/C and traded back to R/B/Y. --JDigital 07:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that would work as Petal Dance is a Generation I move, although Bulbasaur can only learn it in Generation II. — THE TROM — 07:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

What about apricorn balls

What happens if you trade a pokemon in one of the apricorn balls to the generation I games? Would they just change into regular pokeballs? - unsigned comment from Blazaking (talkcontribs)

Back then, PokéBalls didn't have any differences when a Pokémon appeared on the battle field. Different animations, as well as a picture of the PokéBall you captured your Pokémon with, wasn't available until Generation III. The only differences in Generation II they had was that they would be different colors when thrown at a Pokémon. --ケンジガール 07:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

This wouldn't be a problem as in Gen I Pokemon couldn't hold items anyways... Zendude 17:23, Nov 10 2009

When exactly available? (G,S)

I've met Bill inside the Pokemon Center of Ecruteak City, he is now back again in Goldenrod City but i still can't use the Time Capsule. It still says that it's under repair o.o OMG 02:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

You have to wait until past midnight :) --ZestyCactus 03:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Tradebacks and held items

Now, I know most GSC batteries are dead by now and King's Rocks are a pain to get in those games anyway, but what would happen if you, theoretically, traded a Slowpoke from Generation II back to Generation I while it was holding a King's Rock, then immediately traded back? Would it become a Slowking in GSC and thus be able to be traded as a glitch Pokémon back to Generation I? After all, the Time Capsule doesn't prevent a Gen I trade-evolution Pokémon like Graveler from learning Rollout after it evolves into Golem if it's traded at level 31, thus leading to a glitch move being usable if it is traded back immediately... TTEchidna 09:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I just did it. Nothing happens. Slowpoke doesn't evolve. --Dr. James (tell me) 02:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
It even shouldn't work, as Pokémon didn't held items back in Gen I. The item probably got erased in the process, didn't it? Thus Slowpoke had no reason to evolve... --TakeruDavis[1] 15:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
They don't. How else you can get Light Ball in Generation II, than by trading the starter Pikachu from Yellow? Also, "This capability was first introduced in Generation II; however, when a Pokémon obtained in Generation I is traded to a Generation II game through the Time Capsule, it may be holding an item, such as a TM09 held by an Abra. Likewise, items held by Pokémon traded to Generation I will not be lost. " Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Held item list?

Is there a list of items which Pokémon traded from Generation I can be holding? The closest I found was on the Catch Rate page, but that only lists the four items available specifically by trading up from Yellow (and not things like TMs or the like). I think if there is such a list it should either be included on this page or linked from it. —AndyPKMN (talk) 18:06, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

List of Pokémon by wild held item (Generation II). glikglak 18:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I couldn't find it! But the question remains—should that page be linked from this one in the part where it discusses held items? I think it'd certainly help.—AndyPKMN (talk) 01:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I added the link to that list so that readers can easily find the info. SatoMew 15:19, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Mail

According to the Virtual Console manual, you can't trade Pokémon to Generation I if they are holding Mail. We don't currently note this on the page. I'm not in a position to test this, so could someone do so? Also, determine whether you're prevented from entering if a Pokémon holds Mail, or if you simply cannot trade it. --SnorlaxMonster 19:29, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Held Items

As I said in the edits' text... Held items exist in Gen I. They're stored as the catch rate. You can see this by putting an held item on a Pokémon, trading it to Gen I and looking at its summary from the Gen II game. The item stays. And the everstone works one-way. You can even test what I said by doing the following... Abra holding everstone traded to gen 1 from gen 2 -> Evolves to Kadabra by levelup in gen 1 -> Trade it back to gen 2 = No evolution to Alakazam -> Trade it again to gen 1 = Evolution to Alakazam

--Lorenzooone (talk) 20:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)