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== Or does it...? ==
== Or does it...? ==


Does it double/half the growth time? I did an experiment yesterday and my Sitrus and Oran Berries became fruit-bearing at different times, not the same. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 08:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Does it double/half the growth time? I did an experiment yesterday and my Sitrus and Oran Berries became fruit-bearing at different times, not the same. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 08:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


* veekun.com alleges a 25% time reduction for Growth Mulch: http://veekun.com/dex/items/growth%20mulch  -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 19:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
* veekun.com alleges a 25% time reduction for Growth Mulch: http://veekun.com/dex/items/growth%20mulch  -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 19:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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**** This time I saw the actual change to next stage.  You get the sparkly animation (I saw half of it before, but wasn't sure if I saw it correctly), and the new sprite replaces the old one.  The next stage procced at 1939.  This data isn't proving very predictable, as of yet.  -_-  -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 03:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
**** This time I saw the actual change to next stage.  You get the sparkly animation (I saw half of it before, but wasn't sure if I saw it correctly), and the new sprite replaces the old one.  The next stage procced at 1939.  This data isn't proving very predictable, as of yet.  -_-  -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 03:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
***** My final stage came about at 2343 PST, right before the time switched to 2344: maybe the Growth Mulch reduces each stage's length by ~1hr?  I re-verified the sparkly animation and harvested 5 berries for every one planted.  Perhaps the berry yield is dependent upon total growth time?  I watered every stage; the soil went light only once.  -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
***** My final stage came about at 2343 PST, right before the time switched to 2344: maybe the Growth Mulch reduces each stage's length by ~1hr?  I re-verified the sparkly animation and harvested 5 berries for every one planted.  Perhaps the berry yield is dependent upon total growth time?  I watered every stage; the soil went light only once.  -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:Wiki grows in 20 hours, with 5 hours per stage. It should have grown in around 15 hours with the mulch, which it seems to have. Normally, you'd have to have harvested those things around 4:20 AM. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 08:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Wiki grows in 20 hours, with 5 hours per stage. It should have grown in around 15 hours with the mulch, which it seems to have. Normally, you'd have to have harvested those things around 4:20 AM. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 08:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


== Watering? ==
== Watering? ==
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So does anyone know how it works?  Do you only have to water once every two stages or something? [[User:Cyberdude93|Cyberdude93]] 14:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
So does anyone know how it works?  Do you only have to water once every two stages or something? [[User:Cyberdude93|Cyberdude93]] 14:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:The growth time altering mulches also alter the watering time accordingly. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:The growth time altering mulches also alter the watering time accordingly. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think berry yield is dependent on keeping soil moist, and NOT simply watering each stage in generation IV. Research is still needed on what determines the rate soil dries. ~Kendai
::The answer is the drying rate, listed on some other sites. when planted or watered, the moisture is set to 100, and the plant dries by the drying rate each hour Bulbapedia seems to not touch on this much. [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 10:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
== Number of berries ==
It seems pretty clear to me that the more you water, the more berries you get --- but does anyone know more about this mechanics? I've been operating under the assumption that if at any point you see drier soil, then you get fewer berries. However, I just used growth mulch on Wepear, and the soil ended up drier in every stage (although I watered as often as I could)... and I still got 10 berries. Has anyone figured out how the number of berries (or percent of maximum berries) is determined? How dry does the soil need to get before fewer berries appear? What if the soil is dry during a stage change? So many questions, and so much sitting and waiting to find out... [[User:Jazzmoth|<b><span style="color:#0000cc">Jazz</span><span style="color:#ff3300">moth</span></b>]] 07:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
== Boost and Amaze Mulch ==
The article says both Boost and Amaze Mulch cause the soil to dry twice as quickly. However, as I mentioned at the [[Talk:Berry_fields_(Kalos)#Drying_berry_plots|Berry Fields talk page]] the drying period seems to be reduced from about 24 hours to somewhere just over 6 hours. This would mean the soil dries around four times as quickly. I still need to do more accurate tests, but I was wondering where the "twice as quickly" came from before editing the Boost Mulch entry. Further, I still need to try the Amaze Mulch and am wondering if anyone tried it and has an estimate of the drying time (I'm assuming it may be wrong considering the Boost Mulch drying time). [[User:PinkShinyRose|PinkShinyRose]] ([[User talk:PinkShinyRose|talk]]) 20:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
It turned out to take 4 hours to dry with both the Boost and the Amaze Mulch. [[User:PinkShinyRose|PinkShinyRose]] ([[User talk:PinkShinyRose|talk]]) 18:19, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 03:42, 27 December 2016

Or does it...?

Does it double/half the growth time? I did an experiment yesterday and my Sitrus and Oran Berries became fruit-bearing at different times, not the same. TTEchidnaGSDS! 08:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

  • veekun.com alleges a 25% time reduction for Growth Mulch: http://veekun.com/dex/items/growth%20mulch -Tsanth 19:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Update to that: I planted a Wiki in Growth at 0822 PST; it went to next stage somewhere between 1200 and 1204 PST. I'll try to keep track of when it changes stages. -Tsanth 20:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Another update: I watched the next stage. Mine changed at 1550 PST. Perhaps it's 75% time plus an alpha? -Tsanth 23:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
        • This time I saw the actual change to next stage. You get the sparkly animation (I saw half of it before, but wasn't sure if I saw it correctly), and the new sprite replaces the old one. The next stage procced at 1939. This data isn't proving very predictable, as of yet. -_- -Tsanth 03:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
          • My final stage came about at 2343 PST, right before the time switched to 2344: maybe the Growth Mulch reduces each stage's length by ~1hr? I re-verified the sparkly animation and harvested 5 berries for every one planted. Perhaps the berry yield is dependent upon total growth time? I watered every stage; the soil went light only once. -Tsanth 16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Wiki grows in 20 hours, with 5 hours per stage. It should have grown in around 15 hours with the mulch, which it seems to have. Normally, you'd have to have harvested those things around 4:20 AM. TTEchidnaGSDS! 08:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Watering?

Right, I originally presumed that Damp and Growth Mulches just altered the amount of time it took per stage, and you still had to water once per stage. I recently planted some 12 and 8 hour berries with damp mulch (making them 15 and 10 hour berries), and some 18 hour berries without mulch. Some time later, all the berries had sprouted: the 15/10 hour berries had light brown soil, and the 18 hour berries had dry soil.

So does anyone know how it works? Do you only have to water once every two stages or something? Cyberdude93 14:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The growth time altering mulches also alter the watering time accordingly. TTEchidna 18:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I think berry yield is dependent on keeping soil moist, and NOT simply watering each stage in generation IV. Research is still needed on what determines the rate soil dries. ~Kendai
The answer is the drying rate, listed on some other sites. when planted or watered, the moisture is set to 100, and the plant dries by the drying rate each hour Bulbapedia seems to not touch on this much. ~Kendai 10:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Number of berries

It seems pretty clear to me that the more you water, the more berries you get --- but does anyone know more about this mechanics? I've been operating under the assumption that if at any point you see drier soil, then you get fewer berries. However, I just used growth mulch on Wepear, and the soil ended up drier in every stage (although I watered as often as I could)... and I still got 10 berries. Has anyone figured out how the number of berries (or percent of maximum berries) is determined? How dry does the soil need to get before fewer berries appear? What if the soil is dry during a stage change? So many questions, and so much sitting and waiting to find out... Jazzmoth 07:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Boost and Amaze Mulch

The article says both Boost and Amaze Mulch cause the soil to dry twice as quickly. However, as I mentioned at the Berry Fields talk page the drying period seems to be reduced from about 24 hours to somewhere just over 6 hours. This would mean the soil dries around four times as quickly. I still need to do more accurate tests, but I was wondering where the "twice as quickly" came from before editing the Boost Mulch entry. Further, I still need to try the Amaze Mulch and am wondering if anyone tried it and has an estimate of the drying time (I'm assuming it may be wrong considering the Boost Mulch drying time). PinkShinyRose (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC) It turned out to take 4 hours to dry with both the Boost and the Amaze Mulch. PinkShinyRose (talk) 18:19, 6 February 2014 (UTC)