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Yes, a pig.  Ever read [[wp:Animal Farm|Animal Farm]]?  -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">Politoed</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">666</span>]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]
Yes, a pig.  Ever read [[wp:Animal Farm|Animal Farm]]?  -[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">Politoed</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">666</span>]]


ShinyNoctowl, I fail to see what Registeel has to do with communism.  Since when did anyone hold out their arm in that pose to salute Joseph Stalin (or any communist ruler for that matter).  That was how Hitler was saluted.  As a matter of fact, Weavile might be good for representing communism because of the hammer-and-sickle symbol (too bad that we don't have a hammer Pokémon).--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 03:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
ShinyNoctowl, I fail to see what Registeel has to do with communism.  Since when did anyone hold out their arm in that pose to salute Joseph Stalin (or any communist ruler for that matter).  That was how Hitler was saluted.  As a matter of fact, Weavile might be good for representing communism because of the hammer-and-sickle symbol (too bad that we don't have a hammer Pokémon).--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 03:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


Communism is approximately the same as Nazism. Both Communism and Nazism came from Socialism. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">S</span><span style="color: #550E01">h</span><span style="color: #880901">i</span><span style="color: #CC0500">n</span><span style="color: #FF0000">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">?</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #FF0000">!</span>]]</sup> 02:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Communism is approximately the same as Nazism. Both Communism and Nazism came from Socialism. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">S</span><span style="color: #550E01">h</span><span style="color: #880901">i</span><span style="color: #CC0500">n</span><span style="color: #FF0000">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">?</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #FF0000">!</span>]]</sup> 02:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


:[[wp:Communism|Communism]] is not really similar to [[wp:Nazism|Nazism]].  If you'd like to continue this, please read the Wikipedia articles on each.  -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]
:[[wp:Communism|Communism]] is not really similar to [[wp:Nazism|Nazism]].  If you'd like to continue this, please read the Wikipedia articles on each.  -[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]]


== Color ==
== Color ==


Shouldn't it be red?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 23:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be red?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 23:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I think it really should. And who chose the Pokémon that's on the template anyway? Did they just randomly pick it? [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 21:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, it ''was'' red-orange until the CSS code for the Fire-color template changed from "f07c28" to "F08030".  Also, Politoed666 picked Grumpig, as he previously stated on this talk page, because of the novel "Animal Farm".--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
== Pig... ==
Seems a bit offensive, especially when it is referring to Animal Farm. Surely Attack-Forme Deoxys or Staryu would be more appropriate (Red Star of communism)? <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 01:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I would use an image of Male Ledyba, as it is '''red''' and the Five-Star Pokémon, but not a male Ledian due to it's squinty eyes and '''Pink''' color. Plus, Ledyba is a Ladybug, so it is a inter-culturally recognized animal. And any Communist pig joke is intolerant and should be disapproved of, for this is not a politically-aligned site and should use a neutrally-positive symbol for those who believe in what they do. Hence Ledyba, in this site's context, is a neutrally-positive symbol for Communism. It reflects on the principal symbolism without looking at the stereotypes associated with those who deliberately use the word as a excuse for their own totalitarian policies.
Compare the basic text of '''''The Communist Manifesto''''' to how Josef Stalin and his successors corrupted the word Communist in the international lexicon due to their totalitarianism defying the entire purpose of Karl Marx and Fredrich Ingles' book, which was the basis for the American, European, Australian/New Zelandic and Japanese Government programs so many take for granted. While Mr. George Orwell's symbolism was tolerable and approved during his lifetime, it is not during an age of understanding and reevaluation of past mistakes in interpretation of that what is infamous and feared in areas where the basics are not understood, and our knowledge is falsely based on the history of false practitioners of a humanitarian-intended , though easily bended and twisted to evil people's desires, economic system.
Overall, a pig is no longer the symbol for the Communist Economist, nor the Communist politician who is selfless and not a totalitarian waiting in the wings.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 03:07, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
:This still doesnt seem very appropriate? Though no-one currently uses this tag, it shouldnt have the potential to offend future users who may want to use it. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 17:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 00:23, 2 September 2012

Yes, a pig. Ever read Animal Farm? -Politoed666

ShinyNoctowl, I fail to see what Registeel has to do with communism. Since when did anyone hold out their arm in that pose to salute Joseph Stalin (or any communist ruler for that matter). That was how Hitler was saluted. As a matter of fact, Weavile might be good for representing communism because of the hammer-and-sickle symbol (too bad that we don't have a hammer Pokémon).--Pokencyclopedia 03:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Communism is approximately the same as Nazism. Both Communism and Nazism came from Socialism. Shiny?! 02:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Communism is not really similar to Nazism. If you'd like to continue this, please read the Wikipedia articles on each. -ニョロトノ666

Color

Shouldn't it be red?--KukiTalk 23:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it really should. And who chose the Pokémon that's on the template anyway? Did they just randomly pick it? Dialgarules 21:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, it was red-orange until the CSS code for the Fire-color template changed from "f07c28" to "F08030". Also, Politoed666 picked Grumpig, as he previously stated on this talk page, because of the novel "Animal Farm".--Pokencyclopedia 22:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Pig...

Seems a bit offensive, especially when it is referring to Animal Farm. Surely Attack-Forme Deoxys or Staryu would be more appropriate (Red Star of communism)? XVuvuzela2010X 01:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I would use an image of Male Ledyba, as it is red and the Five-Star Pokémon, but not a male Ledian due to it's squinty eyes and Pink color. Plus, Ledyba is a Ladybug, so it is a inter-culturally recognized animal. And any Communist pig joke is intolerant and should be disapproved of, for this is not a politically-aligned site and should use a neutrally-positive symbol for those who believe in what they do. Hence Ledyba, in this site's context, is a neutrally-positive symbol for Communism. It reflects on the principal symbolism without looking at the stereotypes associated with those who deliberately use the word as a excuse for their own totalitarian policies. Compare the basic text of The Communist Manifesto to how Josef Stalin and his successors corrupted the word Communist in the international lexicon due to their totalitarianism defying the entire purpose of Karl Marx and Fredrich Ingles' book, which was the basis for the American, European, Australian/New Zelandic and Japanese Government programs so many take for granted. While Mr. George Orwell's symbolism was tolerable and approved during his lifetime, it is not during an age of understanding and reevaluation of past mistakes in interpretation of that what is infamous and feared in areas where the basics are not understood, and our knowledge is falsely based on the history of false practitioners of a humanitarian-intended , though easily bended and twisted to evil people's desires, economic system. Overall, a pig is no longer the symbol for the Communist Economist, nor the Communist politician who is selfless and not a totalitarian waiting in the wings.--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 03:07, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

This still doesnt seem very appropriate? Though no-one currently uses this tag, it shouldnt have the potential to offend future users who may want to use it. XVuvuzela2010X 17:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)