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::I was thinking that the move itself would be Sketched, not its sound effect... But for some reason, Sketch won't work. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 14:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | ::I was thinking that the move itself would be Sketched, not its sound effect... But for some reason, Sketch won't work. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 14:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::It could be that there is only one "slot" for the sound to be recorded on, and if Chatter was sketched from another user, it would erase over the data. Instead of trying to fix this when a pokemon learns chatter, they probably just disabled it instead.--[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 05:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | :::It could be that there is only one "slot" for the sound to be recorded on, and if Chatter was sketched from another user, it would erase over the data. Instead of trying to fix this when a pokemon learns chatter, they probably just disabled it instead.--[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 05:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::That can't be it because more than on chatot can have different sounds.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 00:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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:Using the microphone isn't required. You can change the recording used for the attack ''outside of battle'', and only if you wish to do so. The Wii not having a microphone doesn't stop the attack from being usable.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC) | :Using the microphone isn't required. You can change the recording used for the attack ''outside of battle'', and only if you wish to do so. The Wii not having a microphone doesn't stop the attack from being usable.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
::A bit old, but, since the volume changes the chance of confusing, what chance of confusing does Chatter have on PBR? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC) | ::A bit old, but, since the volume changes the chance of confusing, what chance of confusing does Chatter have on PBR? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Just to clarify (regarding my removal of a piece of trivia) == | |||
The reason I removed the trivia piece about Chatter causing Chatot to be banned from the Global Union is because there's no reason to assume this. It's not like Nintendo could've been worried about foul language, because as the article already states, Chatter distorts anything you record with it. I was going to put this in the edit summary, but in the midst of correcting a typo, I accidentially hit "enter" and it submitted the edit. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 18:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:However, Chatter is the only thing that makes Chatot unique. It's not like Nintendo would accidentally ban a Pokémon that can say bad words.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 19:25, 24 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Normal Cry Chance of Confusion == | |||
When Chatter is used with Chatot's normal cry, does this go by the medium volume? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|<span style="color:navy">☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆</span>]] 01:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Pokestar Studios == | |||
:I believe it may be possible B2W2 changed some mechanics of this move may have changed mainly its status as "unsketchable". Due to it being known by one of the Pokestar Studios pokemon. --'''[[Special:Contributions/Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#8080FF">Azurill</span>]][[User talk:Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#408080">glow2</span>]][[User:Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#008000">mlw7</span>]]''' 23:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
::This probably should be looked into, but note that the Pokémon that knows the move isn't actually a Pokémon. Therefore none of the moves it knows would be legitimately available given it isn't actually a Pokémon. This would also apply to the other Pokémon that aren't actually Pokémon. [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 23:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Well, the thing that uses the attack isn't TECHNICALLY a Pokemon, it is certainly treated as one. It has it's own stats, an ability, moveset... it still isn't a Chatot and probably doesn't use the same cry. --'''[[Special:Contributions/Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#8080FF">Azurill</span>]][[User talk:Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#408080">glow2</span>]][[User:Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#008000">mlw7</span>]]''' 00:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::None of the Pokémon in the Pokéstar studios use cries, not even ones that are Pokémon. However I don't know if the stats thing is important, since ''if'' Serbii is correct, then all of them have 100 in each stat. If I have time later this week I will look into this Chatter move. [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 00:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::Well in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8JBJsbdhM this] video, the Pokémon are shown using cries. But research would be very appreciated. --'''[[Special:Contributions/Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#8080FF">Azurill</span>]][[User talk:Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#408080">glow2</span>]][[User:Azurillglow2mlw7|<span style="color:#008000">mlw7</span>]]''' 01:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Confusion Chance in XY == | |||
"When Chatter is used by wild and Trainer-owned Chatot, or Chatot who have not had a voice recorded for them, the sound used is Chatot's regular cry, and the odds of confusion is set to 0%" | |||
This seems to no longer be true. Wild Chatot using their default cry are certainly more than capable of confusing your Pokémon this gen around.--[[User:Pyleic|Pyleic]] ([[User talk:Pyleic|talk]]) 02:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
Upon further tests, the case seems to be that, in Gen VI, Chatter ''cannot'' be recorded at all; in exchange, the confusion chance appears to be ''very'' high. [[User:Pyleic|Pyleic]] ([[User talk:Pyleic|talk]]) 04:16, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The [[Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Pokédex & Postgame Adventure Guide]] book says that when Chatter is used by a Chatot, it inflicts the confusion status condition (while this may seem irrelevant, as Chatot is the only Pokémon that can learn Chatter, but the move could still be used by a non-Chatot if they were to use {{m|Transform}} or {{m|Metronome}}; use {{m|Mirror Move}}, {{m|Copycat}}, or {{m|Mimic}} after a Chatot used it;or have the {{a|Imposter}} [[Ability])]. This seems to suggest that whenever Chatot uses it, it has a 100% chance of causing confusion. [[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 15:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Claims like that require testing, always. You cannot trust the wording of a book 100%, because they were likely ONLY taking into perspective that Chatter is its sig move, therefore nothing else would use it (despite there clearly being the means for otherwise). That said, my Imposter!Ditto was able to use Chatter and confuse the target; that means Transform will, too. But it was still technically a Chatot. I was then able to confuse a Chatot using Mirror Move Mimicked by Sudowoodo, meaning confusion is ''not'' a Chatot!effect only. So yeah, test stuff before inserting information like that into the article. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Multiple Chatot in Gen 5 == | |||
So, I thought about adding this info to the field move section, since it's relevant: | |||
"All Chatot owned by the player will share the same custom cry. If all Chatot are deposited in the [[PC]], the recorded audio is reset to Chatot's default cry." | |||
Thing is, I only know that this is the case in gen 4, as I cannot test in gen 5, and I can't find any info about it online. Is anyone out there bored enough to check this? :p [[User:Silverlucario|Frezgle (Silverlucario)]] ([[User talk:Silverlucario|talk]]) 06:19, 13 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Record other Pokémon's cries? == | |||
I was just thinking, "What happens if the game recognizes the audio recorded for Chatter as the cry of another Pokémon (besides Chatot)? Would it: A.) Reject the audio; or: B.) Not distort the audio?" | |||
Here is the setup for this idea (presented in 2nd Person): | |||
# Get 2 Nintendo DS s. The 1st one will be the one you will record audio for Chatter with and the second one is the one you will record the audio with. | |||
# If you don't already, register the Pokémon who's cry will be recorded for the audio into your Pokédex. | |||
# Select that Pokémon's entry and go to the "Cry" menu. | |||
# Place both DS s next to each other. | |||
# Select Chatter as a field move. | |||
# Play the cry of the selected Pokémon on the 2nd DS. | |||
# Finish Recording and see how the game reacts. | |||
Also make sure you are in a quiet area, otherwise the Audio will be distorted guaranteed. <small>- ''totally signed comment from [[User:Kirbychu Showdown|Kirbychu Showdown]] ([[User talk:Kirbychu Showdown|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kirbych_Showdown|contribs]])'' </small> 19:32, 4 March 2022 (UTC) (I didn't know what else to say) | |||
:: i highly doubt the game checks if the audio matches every existing cry in the game. besides, due to the hardware limitations, it'd be impossible to perfectly record a cry using the DS's mic. since the only way to make them exactly match would be to hack your save to change the audio file, it's very unlikely there's anything programmed in for that. lilycove 03:16, 5 May 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 03:16, 5 May 2024
Audio limitations
I'm curious. Exactly how would audio limitations prevent this move from being Sketched? ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 02:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- No idea. --ニョロトノ666 02:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe they can't copy the exact same noise. tc26 02:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking that the move itself would be Sketched, not its sound effect... But for some reason, Sketch won't work. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 14:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- It could be that there is only one "slot" for the sound to be recorded on, and if Chatter was sketched from another user, it would erase over the data. Instead of trying to fix this when a pokemon learns chatter, they probably just disabled it instead.--Dragonite42 05:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- That can't be it because more than on chatot can have different sounds.--Mtn otter We are the Void 00:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- It could be that there is only one "slot" for the sound to be recorded on, and if Chatter was sketched from another user, it would erase over the data. Instead of trying to fix this when a pokemon learns chatter, they probably just disabled it instead.--Dragonite42 05:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking that the move itself would be Sketched, not its sound effect... But for some reason, Sketch won't work. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 14:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Pokemon Battle Revolution
How does this move work in PBR as it requires speaking into the DS Mic, something that can't be done on a Wii. Gligar 21:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Using the microphone isn't required. You can change the recording used for the attack outside of battle, and only if you wish to do so. The Wii not having a microphone doesn't stop the attack from being usable.--Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 01:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- A bit old, but, since the volume changes the chance of confusing, what chance of confusing does Chatter have on PBR? The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 23:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Just to clarify (regarding my removal of a piece of trivia)
The reason I removed the trivia piece about Chatter causing Chatot to be banned from the Global Union is because there's no reason to assume this. It's not like Nintendo could've been worried about foul language, because as the article already states, Chatter distorts anything you record with it. I was going to put this in the edit summary, but in the midst of correcting a typo, I accidentially hit "enter" and it submitted the edit. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 18:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- However, Chatter is the only thing that makes Chatot unique. It's not like Nintendo would accidentally ban a Pokémon that can say bad words.----無限の知性 ◎ DENNOU◆ZENSHI 19:25, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Normal Cry Chance of Confusion
When Chatter is used with Chatot's normal cry, does this go by the medium volume? --☆FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2☆ 01:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Pokestar Studios
- I believe it may be possible B2W2 changed some mechanics of this move may have changed mainly its status as "unsketchable". Due to it being known by one of the Pokestar Studios pokemon. --Azurillglow2mlw7 23:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- This probably should be looked into, but note that the Pokémon that knows the move isn't actually a Pokémon. Therefore none of the moves it knows would be legitimately available given it isn't actually a Pokémon. This would also apply to the other Pokémon that aren't actually Pokémon. Lady Ariel (talk) 23:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, the thing that uses the attack isn't TECHNICALLY a Pokemon, it is certainly treated as one. It has it's own stats, an ability, moveset... it still isn't a Chatot and probably doesn't use the same cry. --Azurillglow2mlw7 00:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- None of the Pokémon in the Pokéstar studios use cries, not even ones that are Pokémon. However I don't know if the stats thing is important, since if Serbii is correct, then all of them have 100 in each stat. If I have time later this week I will look into this Chatter move. Lady Ariel (talk) 00:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, the thing that uses the attack isn't TECHNICALLY a Pokemon, it is certainly treated as one. It has it's own stats, an ability, moveset... it still isn't a Chatot and probably doesn't use the same cry. --Azurillglow2mlw7 00:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- This probably should be looked into, but note that the Pokémon that knows the move isn't actually a Pokémon. Therefore none of the moves it knows would be legitimately available given it isn't actually a Pokémon. This would also apply to the other Pokémon that aren't actually Pokémon. Lady Ariel (talk) 23:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Confusion Chance in XY
"When Chatter is used by wild and Trainer-owned Chatot, or Chatot who have not had a voice recorded for them, the sound used is Chatot's regular cry, and the odds of confusion is set to 0%" This seems to no longer be true. Wild Chatot using their default cry are certainly more than capable of confusing your Pokémon this gen around.--Pyleic (talk) 02:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Upon further tests, the case seems to be that, in Gen VI, Chatter cannot be recorded at all; in exchange, the confusion chance appears to be very high. Pyleic (talk) 04:16, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- The Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Pokédex & Postgame Adventure Guide book says that when Chatter is used by a Chatot, it inflicts the confusion status condition (while this may seem irrelevant, as Chatot is the only Pokémon that can learn Chatter, but the move could still be used by a non-Chatot if they were to use Transform or Metronome; use Mirror Move, Copycat, or Mimic after a Chatot used it;or have the Imposter [[Ability])]. This seems to suggest that whenever Chatot uses it, it has a 100% chance of causing confusion. Mangaman13 (talk) 15:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- Claims like that require testing, always. You cannot trust the wording of a book 100%, because they were likely ONLY taking into perspective that Chatter is its sig move, therefore nothing else would use it (despite there clearly being the means for otherwise). That said, my Imposter!Ditto was able to use Chatter and confuse the target; that means Transform will, too. But it was still technically a Chatot. I was then able to confuse a Chatot using Mirror Move Mimicked by Sudowoodo, meaning confusion is not a Chatot!effect only. So yeah, test stuff before inserting information like that into the article. Kai * the Arc Toraph 16:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Multiple Chatot in Gen 5
So, I thought about adding this info to the field move section, since it's relevant: "All Chatot owned by the player will share the same custom cry. If all Chatot are deposited in the PC, the recorded audio is reset to Chatot's default cry." Thing is, I only know that this is the case in gen 4, as I cannot test in gen 5, and I can't find any info about it online. Is anyone out there bored enough to check this? :p Frezgle (Silverlucario) (talk) 06:19, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Record other Pokémon's cries?
I was just thinking, "What happens if the game recognizes the audio recorded for Chatter as the cry of another Pokémon (besides Chatot)? Would it: A.) Reject the audio; or: B.) Not distort the audio?" Here is the setup for this idea (presented in 2nd Person):
- Get 2 Nintendo DS s. The 1st one will be the one you will record audio for Chatter with and the second one is the one you will record the audio with.
- If you don't already, register the Pokémon who's cry will be recorded for the audio into your Pokédex.
- Select that Pokémon's entry and go to the "Cry" menu.
- Place both DS s next to each other.
- Select Chatter as a field move.
- Play the cry of the selected Pokémon on the 2nd DS.
- Finish Recording and see how the game reacts.
Also make sure you are in a quiet area, otherwise the Audio will be distorted guaranteed. - totally signed comment from Kirbychu Showdown (talk • contribs) 19:32, 4 March 2022 (UTC) (I didn't know what else to say)
- i highly doubt the game checks if the audio matches every existing cry in the game. besides, due to the hardware limitations, it'd be impossible to perfectly record a cry using the DS's mic. since the only way to make them exactly match would be to hack your save to change the audio file, it's very unlikely there's anything programmed in for that. lilycove 03:16, 5 May 2024 (UTC)