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== Needed point of reversing! ==
== Needed point of reversing! ==
He is supposed to be named Daiya. The default name for male DP Character is Daiya (Dia)! Fans didn't call him Daiya for no reason. "Kouki" is one of optional names like "Ash" for Red or "Hiro" for Gold. Brendan and May are named Brendan and May not Ruby and Sapphire because they weren't named Ruby and Sapphire in the game. In the game default names for them were Brendan and May. But in D/P, characters are named after game (Daiya and Pearl). The names that come from Game Editions are considered as default. No one calls Red Ash. So, why do we call Daiya Kouki? D/P continues to name characters after game!
He is supposed to be named Daiya. The default name for male DP Character is Daiya (Dia)! Fans didn't call him Daiya for no reason. "Kouki" is one of optional names like "Ash" for Red or "Hiro" for Gold. Brendan and May are named Brendan and May not Ruby and Sapphire because they weren't named Ruby and Sapphire in the game. In the game default names for them were Brendan and May. But in D/P, characters are named after game (Daiya and Pearl). The names that come from Game Editions are considered as default. No one calls Red Ash. So, why do we call Daiya Kouki? D/P continues to name characters after game!
What's the point of moving Daiya back to Kōki?
What's the point of moving Daiya back to Kōki? {{unsigned|Maxim}}


Because the situation is exactly the same as Ruby and Sapphire. But you wouldn't know that, since you don't play the game. Check your facts first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 22:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Because the situation is exactly the same as Ruby and Sapphire. But you wouldn't know that, since you don't play the game. Check your facts first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 22:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


So, when you choose a certain gender character the opposite gender character will be defautly named Kouki/Hikari. I understand now. Sorry, I don't have the game. I saw many screens from official sources that show character's name as Daiya/Pearl and since the names are from game editions I considered them as default. But I see I wasn't right. Ah well. - Maxim
So, when you choose a certain gender character the opposite gender character will be defautly named Kouki/Hikari. I understand now. Sorry, I don't have the game. I saw many screens from official sources that show character's name as Daiya/Pearl and since the names are from game editions I considered them as default. But I see I wasn't right. Ah well. - {{unsigned|Maxim}}


== Partner Pokemon ==
== Partner Pokemon ==
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I'd be willing to bet that [[Dawn (game)]] does the same thing, but I don't have any male files to confirm it.
I'd be willing to bet that [[Dawn (game)]] does the same thing, but I don't have any male files to confirm it.
I just thought it was pretty neat; nothing important but maybe it could be added under "Trivia".
I just thought it was pretty neat; nothing important but maybe it could be added under "Trivia". {{unsigned|Maki}}


Happy Birthday!--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawn]][[User Talk:Dawnfan47|fan47]]
Happy Birthday!--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawn]][[User Talk:Dawnfan47|fan47]]


:Dawn does the same thing, I already tried. And by the way, happy birthday! [[Image:Ani282MS.gif|32px]]'''[[User:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Netto-kun</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Talk</span>]]</sup>[[Image:Ani445MS.gif|32px]] 21:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:Dawn does the same thing, I already tried. And by the way, happy birthday! '''[[User:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Netto-kun</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


== Movie 11 Appearance? ==
== Movie 11 Appearance? ==
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== Capture Tutorial ==
== Capture Tutorial ==
Shouldn't Bidoof be listed under his known Pokémon? Or Status Unknown? [[user:Simpsonsdude13|<font color="#237d00"> SD13 Simpsondude13>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Simpsonsdude13|<font color="#237d00">SD13 Talk</font>]]</small> 09:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't Bidoof be listed under his known Pokémon? Or Status Unknown? [[user:Simpsonsdude13|<font color="#237d00"> SD13 Simpsondude13>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Simpsonsdude13|<font color="#237d00">SD13 Talk</font>]]</small> 09:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:At the very least, it should be included in the trivia section. It's kind of weird that he catches it and then never uses it.[[User:Delspencerdeltorro|^_^ Delspencerdeltorro]] 19:47, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


== optional names in Platinum? ==
== optional names in Platinum? ==
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:::No, because who knows if he is an assistant there's no proof.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 02:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No, because who knows if he is an assistant there's no proof.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 02:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::You are right , there is no proof . Brendan was speculated to be Prof.Birch,s son and there is not a proof , but it was added anyway . [[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 02:29, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::You are right , there is no proof . Brendan was speculated to be Prof.Birch,s son and there is not a proof , but it was added anyway . [[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 02:29, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well we don't have that anymore. It's been erased for a long time. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 09:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
== His birthday conversation ==
We have Dawn's on her page,why not Lucas? I would post it,but my birthday's in June and I don't want to potentially mess my DS's(or video games) clock.  [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:It won't mess up. You can fix it whenever. I've done it before. Nothing will happen to your DS or game. <span style="border: 1px solid #000000;">[[User:Yinyang1195|<span style="color:#000000;">Yin</span>]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Yang</span></span>]]</span> 22:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
::Okay,I added his birthday conversation. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 15:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
== Is this good trivia? ==
Is Lucas the only game character we see not wearing his hat during the game? The same with dawn too. I think its during the contests.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 05:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
== Sprite on party template ==
Shouldn't Platinum sprite be used on party template, instead of DP one? Platinum is more recent, so I think it is right to use its sprite in templates. The same goes for {{ga|Dawn}}. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|<span style="color:#CFCDD0"><b>R<s>ikki</s></b></span>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|<span style="color:#F9C152"><u>K</u>itsune</span>]] 19:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:All of the party templates are for Diamond and Pearl though, evidenced by the "Diamond and Pearl - Location", so they should use the D/P sprites.
Which raises the question, where are the Platinum templates? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think you fight him in Platinum --[[User:Cookiezard|Cookiezard]] 18:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
== Whoaaa help! ==
His picture is GIANT on the page. Someone needs to fix that. Like, now. o_o Half of his face takes up my entire screen. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 06:25, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
== Kōki - Kongōseki ==
The reasoning for including this similiarity seems rather forced to me; the syllables in his name aren't even next to each other in the Japanese word for Diamond ('''こ'''んご'''う'''せ'''き'''). Is there a source that notes the similiarity between his name and Diamond? Because otherwise, it's kinda like saying {{ga|Hikari}} is similiar to Hikkakari (Hanging). --[[User:TintedLens|TintedLens]] 02:04, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
== Fan artwork ==
Can somebody say me where I can find qualified Lucas artwork? He is my favourite Pokemon character, with the best style. So I wanna some pics for me!
Or if some of you could draw an artwork I would be very happy, but without hat!
P.S. Artwork from Kotone and Leaf would be good too (Favourite female character)! [[User:Eneci|Eneci]] 21:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:Um... this isn't the place for that. I'd suggest you ask in the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/ forums] for something like that, but wiki talk pages are solely for the purpose of improving the article. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
== Yet another internet pop culture reference. ==
Anyways, after seeing Gold's official name changed to Ethan, I noticed that Ethan and Lucas share their names with main characters from the webcomic Ctrl+Alt+Del.  Normally, I would have thought that it was just a coincidence, but since Generation IV contains a lot of references to internet pop culture, it might be another reference that the translators slipped in. - {{unsigned|Gold Dialga}}
:I doubt it, seeing as most of those references evaporated in Platinum, after the chief translator person got fired/ --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Default Name ==
Apparently, if you blank out his name in pokemon pearl, his name becomes "Diamond". not really sure if the reverse applies for pokemon diamond, or if it works for dawn as well. Interesting trivia [[User:Natnew|Natnew]] ([[User talk:Natnew|talk]]) 19:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
== PROPOSAL: name change ==
Lucas and Dawn have been consistently been referred to by their romanised Japanese names of Kouki and Hikari in BDSP’s trailers, does anyone else here think we should change the names of them on this wiki? [[User:Meganium39|Meganium39]] ([[User talk:Meganium39|talk]]) 07:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
== Lucas and Chimchar concept artwork for Kotobukiya ArtFx J figurines is not in "Artwork" section of the page ==
Lucas will have a ArtFx J figurine with the prototype released recently and also artwork for him was released too but I didn't see his Kotobukiya artwork in the artwork section. https://twitter.com/kotobukiya_en/status/1431783910954844165?lang=en
Can someone add that?
== Move ==
I suggest moving this page from "Lucas (game)" to simply "[[Lucas]]" (which is currently a redirect to this page).
Related discussion: [[Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#About the page titles like Red (game), Blue (game), etc.]] --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:43, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:43, 18 February 2024

Needed point of reversing!

He is supposed to be named Daiya. The default name for male DP Character is Daiya (Dia)! Fans didn't call him Daiya for no reason. "Kouki" is one of optional names like "Ash" for Red or "Hiro" for Gold. Brendan and May are named Brendan and May not Ruby and Sapphire because they weren't named Ruby and Sapphire in the game. In the game default names for them were Brendan and May. But in D/P, characters are named after game (Daiya and Pearl). The names that come from Game Editions are considered as default. No one calls Red Ash. So, why do we call Daiya Kouki? D/P continues to name characters after game! What's the point of moving Daiya back to Kōki? - unsigned comment from Maxim (talkcontribs)

Because the situation is exactly the same as Ruby and Sapphire. But you wouldn't know that, since you don't play the game. Check your facts first. - 振霖T 22:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

So, when you choose a certain gender character the opposite gender character will be defautly named Kouki/Hikari. I understand now. Sorry, I don't have the game. I saw many screens from official sources that show character's name as Daiya/Pearl and since the names are from game editions I considered them as default. But I see I wasn't right. Ah well. - - unsigned comment from Maxim (talkcontribs)

Partner Pokemon

Does Kouki use Clefairy too, if you're playing as the girl? --Zeta 03:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he does. --Unown Lord 14:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

In the second battle as a Partner, both Kouki and Hikari use a Level 25 Kadabra and the mid stage evolution of the starter at level 28 (Hayashigame, Moukazaru or Pottaishi.) as well as the Level 25 Clefairy. --JaffaJHDA 17:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Lucas

in this video http://www.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?pid=925601&sid=6169196&tab=related&tag=videos;related;1 the character's name is spelled with a c not a k, so i'm moving it.--DSDark 16:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course his name is "Lucas" with "c", who in the planet spell "Lukas" with "k"?? Come on! Haruka uzumaki 15:58, 24 September 2007

This is from April 17, before the official English game was out. >> Pay attention.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 05:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Birthday

Today is my birthday. When I spoke to Lucas, instead of talking about the Poke Radar like he usually does, he asked if it was my birthday and congratulated me when I said yes. This is probably because of the DS feature where you enter your birthday; I tried putting my sister's game in my DS and the same thing happened.

I'd be willing to bet that Dawn (game) does the same thing, but I don't have any male files to confirm it. I just thought it was pretty neat; nothing important but maybe it could be added under "Trivia". - unsigned comment from Maki (talkcontribs)

Happy Birthday!--Dawnfan47

Dawn does the same thing, I already tried. And by the way, happy birthday! Netto-kun Talk 21:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Movie 11 Appearance?

Is this true? GIMME PROOF!!!! I WANT PROOF!!!--KukiTalk 23:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

How if the movie Isn't Online Yet!?!?--CoolPikachu! 01:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it's true. Lucas appears at the begining, battling against BRENDAN!!! ((I read it in the reviews :D) --Nick. 01:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Was he wearing his Emerald outfit? That should be mentioned if he was. --ケンジガール 03:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, he was. I saw a little video and I saw him with Emerald outfit :) --Nick. 02:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

And like TTE said how come Leaf has never appeared!?!--CoolPikachu! 05:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

No, Leaf has never appeared TwT. I want to see her :( --Nick. 16:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Lucas is holding a Repeat Ball

The Sugimori art Lucas in Platinum shows him holding a Repeat Ball,as this game is a comeback of Sinnoh.This should be added to the trivia.What do you think? - unsigned comment from Uxie legend (talkcontribs)

Yes I think so too, and I added it yesterday but it has been deleted. Probably because its just speculation Hellkaiserryo12 10:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

If you look at Dawn's artwork, you'll see she is also holding a Repeat Ball. It's unusual for an artwork to feature a specialised Poké Ball though.. Gywall(Talk) 11:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Capture Tutorial

Shouldn't Bidoof be listed under his known Pokémon? Or Status Unknown? SD13 Simpsondude13>SD13 Talk 09:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

At the very least, it should be included in the trivia section. It's kind of weird that he catches it and then never uses it.^_^ Delspencerdeltorro 19:47, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

optional names in Platinum?

seeing how the Japanese version of Platinum has been out for a while, can anyone add the Japanese optional names for Lucas? or are we waiting for the other languages to be released before doing anything in this regard? -KinCryos 18:51, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Lucas in the anime

Should we add that Lucas may be Professor Rowan,s Assistant as Dawn is the player in the anime while Jun is the rival? Pokemon94 01:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Speculation.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 01:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes , Its Speculation . Should we add it ? I mean speculation for GSDS Was added . So Why Not add it ? Pokemon94 02:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
No, because who knows if he is an assistant there's no proof.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
You are right , there is no proof . Brendan was speculated to be Prof.Birch,s son and there is not a proof , but it was added anyway . Pokemon94 02:29, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Well we don't have that anymore. It's been erased for a long time. --ケンジガール 09:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

His birthday conversation

We have Dawn's on her page,why not Lucas? I would post it,but my birthday's in June and I don't want to potentially mess my DS's(or video games) clock. Lovely Rose 03:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

It won't mess up. You can fix it whenever. I've done it before. Nothing will happen to your DS or game. YinYang 22:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay,I added his birthday conversation. Lovely Rose 15:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Is this good trivia?

Is Lucas the only game character we see not wearing his hat during the game? The same with dawn too. I think its during the contests.--Pokéboy93 05:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Sprite on party template

Shouldn't Platinum sprite be used on party template, instead of DP one? Platinum is more recent, so I think it is right to use its sprite in templates. The same goes for Dawn. -- RikkiKitsune 19:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

All of the party templates are for Diamond and Pearl though, evidenced by the "Diamond and Pearl - Location", so they should use the D/P sprites.

Which raises the question, where are the Platinum templates? The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 20:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you fight him in Platinum --Cookiezard 18:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


Whoaaa help!

His picture is GIANT on the page. Someone needs to fix that. Like, now. o_o Half of his face takes up my entire screen. CherryParanoia 06:25, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Kōki - Kongōseki

The reasoning for including this similiarity seems rather forced to me; the syllables in his name aren't even next to each other in the Japanese word for Diamond (んご). Is there a source that notes the similiarity between his name and Diamond? Because otherwise, it's kinda like saying Hikari is similiar to Hikkakari (Hanging). --TintedLens 02:04, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Fan artwork

Can somebody say me where I can find qualified Lucas artwork? He is my favourite Pokemon character, with the best style. So I wanna some pics for me! Or if some of you could draw an artwork I would be very happy, but without hat! P.S. Artwork from Kotone and Leaf would be good too (Favourite female character)! Eneci 21:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Um... this isn't the place for that. I'd suggest you ask in the forums for something like that, but wiki talk pages are solely for the purpose of improving the article. --AndyPKMN 12:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Yet another internet pop culture reference.

Anyways, after seeing Gold's official name changed to Ethan, I noticed that Ethan and Lucas share their names with main characters from the webcomic Ctrl+Alt+Del. Normally, I would have thought that it was just a coincidence, but since Generation IV contains a lot of references to internet pop culture, it might be another reference that the translators slipped in. - - unsigned comment from Gold Dialga (talkcontribs)

I doubt it, seeing as most of those references evaporated in Platinum, after the chief translator person got fired/ --AndyPKMN 20:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Default Name

Apparently, if you blank out his name in pokemon pearl, his name becomes "Diamond". not really sure if the reverse applies for pokemon diamond, or if it works for dawn as well. Interesting trivia Natnew (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

PROPOSAL: name change

Lucas and Dawn have been consistently been referred to by their romanised Japanese names of Kouki and Hikari in BDSP’s trailers, does anyone else here think we should change the names of them on this wiki? Meganium39 (talk) 07:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Lucas and Chimchar concept artwork for Kotobukiya ArtFx J figurines is not in "Artwork" section of the page

Lucas will have a ArtFx J figurine with the prototype released recently and also artwork for him was released too but I didn't see his Kotobukiya artwork in the artwork section. https://twitter.com/kotobukiya_en/status/1431783910954844165?lang=en Can someone add that?

Move

I suggest moving this page from "Lucas (game)" to simply "Lucas" (which is currently a redirect to this page).

Related discussion: Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#About the page titles like Red (game), Blue (game), etc. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:43, 18 February 2024 (UTC)