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:Yes, it does. Ninjask was immune to Garchomp's EQ while underground. | :Yes, it does. Ninjask was immune to Garchomp's EQ while underground. | ||
::The developers really dropped the ball on that little bit of physics... it's probably one of my biggest let downs. That and the change back in Gen II of the Bug-/Poison-type mutual weakness. Poor Poison-type only get's one type of super-effective hit. | |||
== Power? == | == Power? == | ||
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So apparently, according to this page, Kabuto can get is as an egg move from a Krabby or Kingler, and Krabby can get it as an egg move from Kabuto or Kabutops, but none of the four can learn it by level up or TM28. Now tell me, just how is this possible? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC) | So apparently, according to this page, Kabuto can get is as an egg move from a Krabby or Kingler, and Krabby can get it as an egg move from Kabuto or Kabutops, but none of the four can learn it by level up or TM28. Now tell me, just how is this possible? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:It's possible because you can teach Dig using the TM to [http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search?breed=9;basedex=1;generation=0;generation=1;move_method=egg;move_method=level;move_method=machine;move_version=rb;move_version=y;move_version=gs;move_version=c many compatible Pokémon] (say, {{p|Corsola}}), and then breed. I assume the breeding sections only include Pokémon that learn the move through level up or breeding, or else things would get very cluttered (some breeding sections are cluttered enough as it is, IMO). But still, without all this background info it ''does'' not make sense... Maybe I'll put a note or something. --'''[[User:Memo326|<span style="color:#151B8D;">Memo</span>]]'''<i>[[User talk:Memo326|<sup><span style="color:#8D38C9;">326</span></sup>]]</i> 05:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
::There are a lot of pokemon that can only get breeding moves from a TM father.... it's not that important. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 07:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Well, it ''does'' lend itself to some illogical listings like the one Satosuke mentioned... I say we should put a little disclaimer on the breeding chart footer or something. '''[[User:Memo326|<span style="color:#151B8D;">Memo</span>]]'''<i>[[User talk:Memo326|<sup><span style="color:#8D38C9;">326</span></sup>]]</i> 19:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::That's a given though for every single TM, and is common knowledge (or should be); plus it's mentioned {{pkmn|breeding|here}}. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 20:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Outside of battle effect == | == Outside of battle effect == | ||
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This move can be used in caves outside of battle, and the user will be teleported to the cave entrance. Why isn't this mentioned? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 02:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC) | This move can be used in caves outside of battle, and the user will be teleported to the cave entrance. Why isn't this mentioned? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 02:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Because we are just plain silly. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 02:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC) | :Because we are just plain silly. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 02:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Rather interesting == | |||
In Pokemon Pearl, I just had a Machoke hit an Onix with Karate Chop while it was in the middle of using Dig. Anyone else witness something like this? Also just had Revenge hit during Dig. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 03:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Does your Machoke have {{a|No Guard}}? That would do it. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 03:27, 4 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Hmm, so it does. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 04:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Non-Encyclopedic wording== | |||
The article uses both "mostly-invulnerable stage" and "semi-invulnerable stage." Neither sound very Bulbapedia-y, so I suggest we change it. I'm not sure what to change it to, however. '''<span style="background:#49E20E;">Wynd</span><span style="background:#FF3D0D;"> Fox</span>''' 18:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:[[:Category:Moves with a semi-invulnerable turn|Semi-invulnerable turn]] is the term we usually use. I don't see how it isn't "Bulbapedia-y". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:08, 20 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Shedinja == | |||
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but does anyone know if Shedinja's Wonder Guard protects it from Earthquake and/or Magnitude while using Dig? [[User:Mr.Goodtrips|Mr.Goodtrips]] 22:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Probably does, but you might want to check with other users, or better yet ask on the forums. [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 22:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Shedinja is immune to ground-type moves. Doubling zero damage results in zero damage. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 03:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Trapinch== | |||
What other Gen. III Pokémon besides Trapinch can learn Dig by leveling up? I checked my Ruby/Sapphire guide and Trapinch was the only one I saw. I'm talking about move sets as they appeared in Gen. III, not any other generations. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 02:34, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Nincada.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 02:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::How did I miss that? Is it a relevant trivia point, then, that Trapinch and Nincada are the only two Gen. III Pokémon who can learn Dig naturally but the player must halt evolution for both cases? (Trapinch does learn it before evolution in later generations, but I'm talking about Gen. III) [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 02:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Not really, as many Pokémon learn moves at levels that involves halting the evolution process. And since there's two of them, it makes it more unnotable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 03:10, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Double Team == | |||
If the user uses Double Team, and then Dig, is there a chance for Earthquake, Magnitude, and Fissure to miss? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 19:28, 19 March 2018 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, yes, no. The wording appears to be pretty clear to me. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks. It just said that user '''cannot avoid''' those moves, so I wasn't sure if it menat that they become inevadable like Thunder in the rain. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::Oops, you're right. I'm sorry, the moves can indeed still miss, that wording was misleading. I've changed it to match what {{m|Earthquake}} and {{m|Magnitude}} already had correctly. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:55, 1 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
==Switching out of Dig== | |||
When battling an NPC trainer with the battle style set to "Switch" and the enemy Pokémon faints while the Pokémon using Dig is underground, the game will still offer you to switch out and doing so will cancel the move, even though you normally wouldn't be able to switch in this situation. Does it work the same way in every generation? I think the same works with any move that locks the user into doing the same move on the next turn like Petal Dance. [[User:Gyorokpeter|Gyorokpeter]] ([[User talk:Gyorokpeter|talk]]) 22:20, 21 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Dig vs Dig == | |||
I did not see this on this page yet: | |||
I had performed dig with my Pawmot. The next turn the opponent also performed dig, as he was faster he moved into the ground. However just as he began to dig, my Pawmot hit him. | |||
So it seems like the first digger can attack a pokemon that uses dig? I even think that his dig was cancelled, but I am not sure anymore. |
Latest revision as of 20:02, 16 January 2023
Has Anyone tried this?
In 3rd generation flying pokemon recieve no damage from earthquake even when ungerground. Is it the same 4th generation? I ask because there are now moves like roost/gravity that disable flying, so does a flying/levitate pokemon still immune to damage from Earthquake when using Dig?
- Yes, it does. Ninjask was immune to Garchomp's EQ while underground.
- The developers really dropped the ball on that little bit of physics... it's probably one of my biggest let downs. That and the change back in Gen II of the Bug-/Poison-type mutual weakness. Poor Poison-type only get's one type of super-effective hit.
Power?
In Pokemon LeafGreen, the Power of Dig is 60. Tesh 16:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- The power backing dig has changed, which is shown in the article, and for reference:
- Generation I has the power of 100.
- Generation IV has a power of 80.
- Generation II and Generation III both have a power of 60.
- It's one of a few moves that changed power, and the power of 80 is in the latest games. Gywall 10:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Magnitude also hurt a Pokémon that's using Dig? Diachronos 17:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- It does. I'm going to change the article. Satosuke 14:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Kabuto, Krabby, and Gen II Breeding
So apparently, according to this page, Kabuto can get is as an egg move from a Krabby or Kingler, and Krabby can get it as an egg move from Kabuto or Kabutops, but none of the four can learn it by level up or TM28. Now tell me, just how is this possible? Satosuke 14:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's possible because you can teach Dig using the TM to many compatible Pokémon (say, Corsola), and then breed. I assume the breeding sections only include Pokémon that learn the move through level up or breeding, or else things would get very cluttered (some breeding sections are cluttered enough as it is, IMO). But still, without all this background info it does not make sense... Maybe I'll put a note or something. --Memo326 05:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- There are a lot of pokemon that can only get breeding moves from a TM father.... it's not that important. — THE TROM — 07:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Outside of battle effect
This move can be used in caves outside of battle, and the user will be teleported to the cave entrance. Why isn't this mentioned? ~ Serial Colour 02:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Because we are just plain silly. — THE TROM — 02:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Rather interesting
In Pokemon Pearl, I just had a Machoke hit an Onix with Karate Chop while it was in the middle of using Dig. Anyone else witness something like this? Also just had Revenge hit during Dig. --Zoen 03:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Does your Machoke have No Guard? That would do it. —Minimiscience 03:27, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, so it does. --Zoen 04:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Non-Encyclopedic wording
The article uses both "mostly-invulnerable stage" and "semi-invulnerable stage." Neither sound very Bulbapedia-y, so I suggest we change it. I'm not sure what to change it to, however. Wynd Fox 18:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Semi-invulnerable turn is the term we usually use. I don't see how it isn't "Bulbapedia-y". --SnorlaxMonster 18:08, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Shedinja
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but does anyone know if Shedinja's Wonder Guard protects it from Earthquake and/or Magnitude while using Dig? Mr.Goodtrips 22:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Probably does, but you might want to check with other users, or better yet ask on the forums. サトシ 22:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Trapinch
What other Gen. III Pokémon besides Trapinch can learn Dig by leveling up? I checked my Ruby/Sapphire guide and Trapinch was the only one I saw. I'm talking about move sets as they appeared in Gen. III, not any other generations. Aggron989 (talk) 02:34, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Nincada.--ForceFire 02:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- How did I miss that? Is it a relevant trivia point, then, that Trapinch and Nincada are the only two Gen. III Pokémon who can learn Dig naturally but the player must halt evolution for both cases? (Trapinch does learn it before evolution in later generations, but I'm talking about Gen. III) Aggron989 (talk) 02:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Double Team
If the user uses Double Team, and then Dig, is there a chance for Earthquake, Magnitude, and Fissure to miss? RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 19:28, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, yes, no. The wording appears to be pretty clear to me. Nescientist (talk) 16:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. It just said that user cannot avoid those moves, so I wasn't sure if it menat that they become inevadable like Thunder in the rain. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Oops, you're right. I'm sorry, the moves can indeed still miss, that wording was misleading. I've changed it to match what Earthquake and Magnitude already had correctly. Nescientist (talk) 13:55, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. It just said that user cannot avoid those moves, so I wasn't sure if it menat that they become inevadable like Thunder in the rain. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Switching out of Dig
When battling an NPC trainer with the battle style set to "Switch" and the enemy Pokémon faints while the Pokémon using Dig is underground, the game will still offer you to switch out and doing so will cancel the move, even though you normally wouldn't be able to switch in this situation. Does it work the same way in every generation? I think the same works with any move that locks the user into doing the same move on the next turn like Petal Dance. Gyorokpeter (talk) 22:20, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
Dig vs Dig
I did not see this on this page yet:
I had performed dig with my Pawmot. The next turn the opponent also performed dig, as he was faster he moved into the ground. However just as he began to dig, my Pawmot hit him. So it seems like the first digger can attack a pokemon that uses dig? I even think that his dig was cancelled, but I am not sure anymore.