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Yeah, it's a good idea.  
Yeah, it's a good idea.  
[[Image:Ani154MS.gif|32px]]'''[[User:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Netto</span>]]-[[User talk:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">kun</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani394MS.gif|32px]] 11:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
'''[[User:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Netto</span>]]-[[User talk:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">kun</span>]]''' 11:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:So this idea never went ahead? - [[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]] 12:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:So this idea never went ahead? - [[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]] 12:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


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I tried to post what i found here but it didn't turn out quite right. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 13:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC))
I tried to post what i found here but it didn't turn out quite right. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 13:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC))
* I fixed it for you:
{| class="expandable"
| '''GT4GTR's list of Pokémon data memory locations in Red/Blue'''
|-
|
  1st pkmn
  Species        d164            byte
  Remaining HP    d16c-d16d        word
  ?              d16e            byte
  Status          d16f            byte
  ?              d170-d172        3 bytes
  Attack 1        d173            byte
  Attack 2        d174            byte
  Attack 3        d175            byte
  Attack 4        d176            byte
  OT ID          d177-d178        word
  Experience      d179-d17b        3 bytes
  Effort data    d17c-d185        10 bytes
  DVs            d186-d187        word
  PP1            d188            byte
  PP2            d189            byte
  PP3            d18a            byte
  PP4            d18b            byte
  level          d18c            byte
  HP              d18d-d18e        word
  Attack          d18f-d190        word
  Defense        d191-d192        word
  Speed          d193-d194        word
  Special        d195-d196        word
  Name            d2b5            10 bytes
 
  2nd pkmn
  Species        d165            byte
  Remaining HP    d198-d199        word
  ?              d19a            byte
  Status          d19b            byte
  ?              d19c-d19e        3 bytes
  Attack 1        d19f            byte
  Attack 2        d1a0            byte
  Attack 3        d1a1            byte
  Attack 4        d1a2            byte
  OT ID          d1a3-d1a4        word
  Experience      d1a5-d1a7        3 bytes
  Effort data    d1a8-d1b1        10 bytes
  DVs            d1b2-d1b3        word
  PP1            d1b4            byte
  PP2            d1b5            byte
  PP3            d1b6            byte
  PP4            d1b7            byte
  level          d1b8            byte
  HP              d1b9-d1ba        word
  Attack          b1bb-d1bc        word
  Defense        d1bd-d1be        word
  Speed          d1bf-d1c0        word
  Special        d1c1-d1c2        word
  Name            d2c0            10 bytes
 
  3rd pkmn
  Species        d166            byte
  Remaining HP    d1c4-d1c5        word
  ?              d1c6            byte
  Status          d1c7            byte
  ?              d1c8-d1ca        3 bytes
  Attack 1        d1cb            byte
  Attack 2        d1cc            byte
  Attack 3        d1cd            byte
  Attack 4        d1ce            byte
  OT ID          d1cf-d1d0        word
  Experience      d1d1-d1d3        3 bytes
  Effort data    d1d4-d1dd        10 bytes
  DVs            d1de-d1df        word
  PP1            d1e0            byte
  PP2            d1e1            byte
  PP3            d1e2            byte
  PP4            d1e3            byte
  level          d1e4            byte
  HP              d1e5-d1e6        word
  Attack          d1e7-d1e8        word
  Defense        d1e9-d1ea        word
  Speed          d1eb-d1ec        word
  Special        d1ed-d1ee        word 
  Name            d2Cb            10 bytes
 
  4th pkmn       
  Species        d167            byte
  Remaining HP    d1f0-d1f1        word
  ?              d1f2            byte
  Status          d1f3            byte
  ?              d1f4-d1f6        3 bytes
  Attack 1        d1f7            byte
  Attack 2        d1f8            byte
  Attack 3        d1f9            byte
  Attack 4        d1fa            byte
  OT ID          d1fb-d1fc        word
  Experience      d1fd-d1ff        3 bytes
  Effort data    d200-d209        10 bytes
  DVs            d20a-d20b        word
  PP1            d20c            byte
  PP2            d20d            byte
  PP3            d20e            byte
  PP4            d20f            byte
  level          d210            byte
  HP              d211-d212        word
  Attack          d213-d214        word
  Defense        d215-d216        word
  Speed          d217-d218        word
  Special        d219-d21a        word 
  Name            d2d6            10 bytes
 
  5th pkmn
  Species        d168            byte
  Remaining HP    d21c-d21d        word
  ?              d21e            byte
  Status          d21f            byte
  ?              d220-d122        3 bytes
  Attack 1        d223            byte
  Attack 2        d224            byte
  Attack 3        d225            byte
  Attack 4        d226            byte
  OT ID          d227-d228        word
  Experience      d229-d22b        3 bytes
  Effort data    d22c-d235        10 bytes
  DVs            d236-d237        word
  PP1            d238            byte
  PP2            d239            byte
  PP3            d23a            byte
  PP4            d23b            byte
  level          d23c            byte
  HP              d23d-d23e        word
  Attack          d23f-d240        word
  Defense        d241-d242        word
  Speed          d243-d244        word
  Special        d245-d246        word
  Name            d2e2            10 bytes
 
  6th pkmn
  Species        d169            byte
  Remaining HP    d248-d249        word
  ?              d24a            byte
  Status          d24b            byte
  ?              d24c-d24e        3 bytes
  Attack 1        d24f            byte
  Attack 2        d250            byte
  Attack 3        d251            byte
  Attack 4        d252            byte
  OT ID          d253-d254        word
  Experience      d255-d257        3 bytes
  Effort data    d258-d261        10 bytes
  DVs            d262-d263        word
  PP1            d264            byte
  PP2            d265            byte
  PP3            d266            byte
  PP4            d267            byte
  level          d268            byte
  HP              d269-d26a        word
  Attack          d26b-d26c        word
  Defense        d26d-d26e        word
  Speed          d26f-d270        word
  Special        d271-d272        word
  Name            d2ec            10 bytes
|}
I noticed some other things while poking around in the memory:
* Pokémon Red/Blue don't use ASCII. The alphabet is as follows:
** Character 50 terminates a string.
** Characters 60-6F are bold ABCDEFGHIVSLM, colon, and katakana small I and U. (I think)
** Characters 70-75 are both single quotes, both double quotes, floating dot, and floating ellipis.
** Characters 76-7E are small hiragana A, E and O, and five  menu border characters.
** Character 7F is space.
** Characters 80-99 are uppercase A through Z.
** Characters 9A-9F are ():;[].
** Characters A0-B9 are lowercase a through z.
** Characters BA-BF are é, 'd, 'l, 's, 't, and 'v.
** Characters C0-DF appear to be blank.
** Characters E1-E9 are PK, MN, -, 'r, 'm, ?, !, ., and small katakana A.
** Characters EA-EF are small katakana U, small katakana I, white right facing triangle, black right facing triangle, black down facing triangle, and the male symbol.
** Characters F0-F5 are the Pokédollar logo, multiplication cross, full stop, slash, comma, and female symbol.
** Characters F6-FF are the digits 0 through 9.
** Other characters seem to do weird things.
* Your trainer name appears at d158-d15e. d15f has a value of '50', "string end". The seven-character name limit might be so that the name fits in a convenient eight-byte spot, including a stop byte. Your trainer name appears again at d9ac. (Perhaps one of these is the Original Trainer of your first carried Pokémon?)
* d160-d162 appear to be 00. The eight bytes from d163-d16a store the current party. The first byte stores the number of Pokémon carried. This is followed by one byte giving the species of each Pokémon, followed by an 'FF' byte. If there are less than six Pokémon, all bytes after the FF are 00. (For example, a party of three Bulbasaurs (internal number 99) will read "03 99 99 99 FF 00 00 00".)
* After the eight-byte list comes the 44-byte data structure Pokémon #1 (in d16b-d196). Here's the weird thing: The Pokémon species number is duplicated here as the first byte, but the game only actually looks at the entry in the eight-byte list at the beginning. Changing the species ID in the structure has no effect. In fact, if you change the first species ID to Mew and the second to Krabby, then store it in the box and take it back out, even if you switched boxes in the meantime, the resulting Pokémon will be the same: appearing as a Mew, with Mew's species ID in the list, but Krabby's species ID still in the 44-byte structure.
* Current HP is actually stored as one lower: for example, if you have 5HP it will record "00 04". This is because it begins counting at 0.
* Your rival's name can be found from d34a-d351, at least while you fight him. This may be the case for trainers in general.
* Your opponent's data can be found at around D8A4.
* Your rival and random trainers have the same Trainer ID as you. It's reasonable to assume that this is the case for all trainers in at least all Generation I and II games.
* The one-byte mystery field and three-byte mystery field are still a mystery. The one-byte field appears to always remain at 00 (perhaps two bytes were initially reserved for status effects). The three-byte field on my Charmander read "14 14 2D", with my rival's Squirtle reading "15 15 2D" and a Bug Catcher's Pokémon "07 04 FF". Perhaps it's related to Secret ID, or DVs? Are any of these bytes used by Pokémon traded back from Generation II?
--[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 11:43, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Action update: I went through the Pokémon Red in Japanese to see if the mystery bytes used to do something. It's still a mystery, but I discovered the following which may be of interest to someone:
* The three-byte field in a new Charmander is 14 14 2D, just as it was in an English game. It's thus probably not a checksum or Secret ID, nor is it a random value. The one-byte field is 00; perhaps status was originally two bytes but the interactions of multiple statuses was undesirable.
* The Pokémon data which begins at D16x in English begins at D12x in JP. Eight-bite party data is D123-D12A and Pokémon #1 is from D12B-D156.
* You may have noticed a gap at the beginning of D160 in the English version, and wondered if anything was there originally. In the JP version, the player's trainer name was stored here, from D11D to D122. Presumably the Trainer ID location was moved in the English version because it wouldn't fit: trainer names are five characters in JP, seven characters in EN. The extra length of trainer names may explain why EN-JP trades don't function correctly.
* Original trainer names for the current Pokémon are stored in a thirty-six byte set (six bytes per Pokémon) from D233-D256.
* Nicknames for the current Pokémon are stored in a thirty-six byte set (six bytes per Pokémon) from D257-D27A, followed by "08" at D27B.
* The alphabet is as follows:
** Character 50 terminates a string.
** Characters 60-6F are bold ABCDEFGHIVSLM, colon, and katakana small I and U.
** Characters 70-75 are both thin quotes, both thick quotes, floating dots and floating ellipis.
** Characters 76-7E are small hiragana A, E and O, and five menu border characters (different to English).
** Character 7F is space.
** Characters 80-B0 are katakana.
** Characters B1-E2 are hiragana.
** Characters E3-E9 are dash, dot, tenten, ?, !, full stop, and small katakana A.
** Characters E9-EF are small katakana U, small katakana I, white right facing triangle, black right facing triangle, black down facing triangle, and the male symbol. (same as Eng)
** Characters F0-F5 are the currency symbol, multiplication cross, full stop, slash, small katakana O, and female symbol.
** Characters F6-FF are the digits 0 through 9, as in Character.
** Low characters such as 0A-0F represent characters with 'tenten' applied (two dashes, or a dot). (in English these characters just make weird stuff happen)
** Other characters seem to do weird things.
* The odd character mapping of the English version (A = 0x80, rather than 0x41 in ASCII) makes sense when you consider that the Japanese characters used the second half of the byte values (0x80-0xFF), as foreign character sets tend to do so as not to clash with ASCII which uses the first half (0x00-0x7F). The developers eventually did use some of the first half after they ran out of space in the upper half and needed more characters (small hiragana vowels, characters with tenten applied, quote marks). The English translators took the most straightforward approach and replaced the Japanese characters with English, rather than move special characters around and reprogram it to use ASCII.
* When a Pokémon battle begins and the trainer unleashes a Pokémon, parts of data from the trainer's current Pokémon are copied to a structure beginning at D000. The first three bytes (D000-D002) are the "mystery bytes"; other data includes stats, attacks, level, DVs, and I possibly trainer ID. If the mystery 3 bytes are edited before battle they are still copied, though I can't see that they have any effect.
--[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 06:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


== Held Items? ==
== Held Items? ==


Is it possible that one of the unknown bytes is the held item when traded to G/S/C? After all, when you trade a Pokémon from R/B/Y to G/S/C, it almost always (if not always) holds some item. And sometimes the items are different in Yellow! And when you give a Pokémon an item and then trade to R/B/Y, the R/B/Y game somehow remembers what item it's holding... [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 07:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible that one of the unknown bytes is the held item when traded to G/S/C? After all, when you trade a Pokémon from R/B/Y to G/S/C, it almost always (if not always) holds some item. And sometimes the items are different in Yellow! And when you give a Pokémon an item and then trade to R/B/Y, the R/B/Y game somehow remembers what item it's holding... [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 07:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
== Article rename ==
It may be more consistent to rename this article to "Pokémon data structure (Generation I)", and the same with other [[:Category:Structures|Structures]] articles. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 00:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
: That sounds nice. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 19:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
== Cleanup ==
I just did a major cleanup of this article, to wikify it, clarify some fields of the data structure from elements of this talk page, copyedit for grammar and spelling, and modify the tone of the article.
Feel free to criticise, edit further with more information, etc. I took the liberty to remove the stub template and cleanup template; add them back if needed. [[User:Looce|Looce]] 03:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:29, 3 February 2021

I'm wondering if we should rename these to "Pokémon data structure in Generation I", "II", "III", and so on. After all, we've had other GBC, GBA, and DS games with Pokémon, right? TTEchidna 10:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a good idea. Netto-kun 11:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

So this idea never went ahead? - TIMMY 12:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Using this in Visual Boy Advance

Thanks for this page guys, i used this to find the codes in the memory viewer and edit my party! I wrote down the offsets for every piece of data for the pokemon using this guide (if you want a copy, just ask) and now it's easy to change the data of my pokemon. I also found the offsets for a couple of other things like the nicknames. You can change everything about the pokemon including the species. I also just cracked the GBC ones too, i didn't find the nicknames there though... Thanks for this page anyway. (GT4GTR 13:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC))

Maybe we can expand this page a little if anyone's intrested... ;) (GT4GTR 13:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC))

I tried to post what i found here but it didn't turn out quite right. (GT4GTR 13:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC))

  • I fixed it for you:

I noticed some other things while poking around in the memory:

  • Pokémon Red/Blue don't use ASCII. The alphabet is as follows:
    • Character 50 terminates a string.
    • Characters 60-6F are bold ABCDEFGHIVSLM, colon, and katakana small I and U. (I think)
    • Characters 70-75 are both single quotes, both double quotes, floating dot, and floating ellipis.
    • Characters 76-7E are small hiragana A, E and O, and five menu border characters.
    • Character 7F is space.
    • Characters 80-99 are uppercase A through Z.
    • Characters 9A-9F are ():;[].
    • Characters A0-B9 are lowercase a through z.
    • Characters BA-BF are é, 'd, 'l, 's, 't, and 'v.
    • Characters C0-DF appear to be blank.
    • Characters E1-E9 are PK, MN, -, 'r, 'm, ?, !, ., and small katakana A.
    • Characters EA-EF are small katakana U, small katakana I, white right facing triangle, black right facing triangle, black down facing triangle, and the male symbol.
    • Characters F0-F5 are the Pokédollar logo, multiplication cross, full stop, slash, comma, and female symbol.
    • Characters F6-FF are the digits 0 through 9.
    • Other characters seem to do weird things.
  • Your trainer name appears at d158-d15e. d15f has a value of '50', "string end". The seven-character name limit might be so that the name fits in a convenient eight-byte spot, including a stop byte. Your trainer name appears again at d9ac. (Perhaps one of these is the Original Trainer of your first carried Pokémon?)
  • d160-d162 appear to be 00. The eight bytes from d163-d16a store the current party. The first byte stores the number of Pokémon carried. This is followed by one byte giving the species of each Pokémon, followed by an 'FF' byte. If there are less than six Pokémon, all bytes after the FF are 00. (For example, a party of three Bulbasaurs (internal number 99) will read "03 99 99 99 FF 00 00 00".)
  • After the eight-byte list comes the 44-byte data structure Pokémon #1 (in d16b-d196). Here's the weird thing: The Pokémon species number is duplicated here as the first byte, but the game only actually looks at the entry in the eight-byte list at the beginning. Changing the species ID in the structure has no effect. In fact, if you change the first species ID to Mew and the second to Krabby, then store it in the box and take it back out, even if you switched boxes in the meantime, the resulting Pokémon will be the same: appearing as a Mew, with Mew's species ID in the list, but Krabby's species ID still in the 44-byte structure.
  • Current HP is actually stored as one lower: for example, if you have 5HP it will record "00 04". This is because it begins counting at 0.
  • Your rival's name can be found from d34a-d351, at least while you fight him. This may be the case for trainers in general.
  • Your opponent's data can be found at around D8A4.
  • Your rival and random trainers have the same Trainer ID as you. It's reasonable to assume that this is the case for all trainers in at least all Generation I and II games.
  • The one-byte mystery field and three-byte mystery field are still a mystery. The one-byte field appears to always remain at 00 (perhaps two bytes were initially reserved for status effects). The three-byte field on my Charmander read "14 14 2D", with my rival's Squirtle reading "15 15 2D" and a Bug Catcher's Pokémon "07 04 FF". Perhaps it's related to Secret ID, or DVs? Are any of these bytes used by Pokémon traded back from Generation II?

--JDigital 11:43, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Action update: I went through the Pokémon Red in Japanese to see if the mystery bytes used to do something. It's still a mystery, but I discovered the following which may be of interest to someone:

  • The three-byte field in a new Charmander is 14 14 2D, just as it was in an English game. It's thus probably not a checksum or Secret ID, nor is it a random value. The one-byte field is 00; perhaps status was originally two bytes but the interactions of multiple statuses was undesirable.
  • The Pokémon data which begins at D16x in English begins at D12x in JP. Eight-bite party data is D123-D12A and Pokémon #1 is from D12B-D156.
  • You may have noticed a gap at the beginning of D160 in the English version, and wondered if anything was there originally. In the JP version, the player's trainer name was stored here, from D11D to D122. Presumably the Trainer ID location was moved in the English version because it wouldn't fit: trainer names are five characters in JP, seven characters in EN. The extra length of trainer names may explain why EN-JP trades don't function correctly.
  • Original trainer names for the current Pokémon are stored in a thirty-six byte set (six bytes per Pokémon) from D233-D256.
  • Nicknames for the current Pokémon are stored in a thirty-six byte set (six bytes per Pokémon) from D257-D27A, followed by "08" at D27B.
  • The alphabet is as follows:
    • Character 50 terminates a string.
    • Characters 60-6F are bold ABCDEFGHIVSLM, colon, and katakana small I and U.
    • Characters 70-75 are both thin quotes, both thick quotes, floating dots and floating ellipis.
    • Characters 76-7E are small hiragana A, E and O, and five menu border characters (different to English).
    • Character 7F is space.
    • Characters 80-B0 are katakana.
    • Characters B1-E2 are hiragana.
    • Characters E3-E9 are dash, dot, tenten, ?, !, full stop, and small katakana A.
    • Characters E9-EF are small katakana U, small katakana I, white right facing triangle, black right facing triangle, black down facing triangle, and the male symbol. (same as Eng)
    • Characters F0-F5 are the currency symbol, multiplication cross, full stop, slash, small katakana O, and female symbol.
    • Characters F6-FF are the digits 0 through 9, as in Character.
    • Low characters such as 0A-0F represent characters with 'tenten' applied (two dashes, or a dot). (in English these characters just make weird stuff happen)
    • Other characters seem to do weird things.
  • The odd character mapping of the English version (A = 0x80, rather than 0x41 in ASCII) makes sense when you consider that the Japanese characters used the second half of the byte values (0x80-0xFF), as foreign character sets tend to do so as not to clash with ASCII which uses the first half (0x00-0x7F). The developers eventually did use some of the first half after they ran out of space in the upper half and needed more characters (small hiragana vowels, characters with tenten applied, quote marks). The English translators took the most straightforward approach and replaced the Japanese characters with English, rather than move special characters around and reprogram it to use ASCII.
  • When a Pokémon battle begins and the trainer unleashes a Pokémon, parts of data from the trainer's current Pokémon are copied to a structure beginning at D000. The first three bytes (D000-D002) are the "mystery bytes"; other data includes stats, attacks, level, DVs, and I possibly trainer ID. If the mystery 3 bytes are edited before battle they are still copied, though I can't see that they have any effect.

--JDigital 06:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Held Items?

Is it possible that one of the unknown bytes is the held item when traded to G/S/C? After all, when you trade a Pokémon from R/B/Y to G/S/C, it almost always (if not always) holds some item. And sometimes the items are different in Yellow! And when you give a Pokémon an item and then trade to R/B/Y, the R/B/Y game somehow remembers what item it's holding... Blaziken257 07:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Article rename

It may be more consistent to rename this article to "Pokémon data structure (Generation I)", and the same with other Structures articles. --JDigital 00:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

That sounds nice. --Kyoufu Kawa 19:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup

I just did a major cleanup of this article, to wikify it, clarify some fields of the data structure from elements of this talk page, copyedit for grammar and spelling, and modify the tone of the article.

Feel free to criticise, edit further with more information, etc. I took the liberty to remove the stub template and cleanup template; add them back if needed. Looce 03:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)