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i was wondering if it could be added. [[User:Maril and Co.|Mr. Maril Of Oldale]] 03:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | i was wondering if it could be added. [[User:Maril and Co.|Mr. Maril Of Oldale]] 03:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah I used to think it was spelled Canaclave too... Pokémon Food is about food that Pokémon eat, that's about when humans eat Pokémon. --[[User:Dialgarules|<font color="#1FFFFF">'''Dialga'''</font>]][[User talk:Dialgarules|<font color="FF9999">'''RULES'''</font>]] 03:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | :Yeah I used to think it was spelled Canaclave too... Pokémon Food is about food that Pokémon eat, that's about when humans eat Pokémon. --[[User:Dialgarules|<font color="#1FFFFF">'''Dialga'''</font>]][[User talk:Dialgarules|<font color="FF9999">'''RULES'''</font>]] 03:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Alas, poor Farfetch'd. [[User:Sceptileninja|Sceptileninja]] 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Original Pokemon? == | == Original Pokemon? == | ||
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== Not typically eaten as food == | == Not typically eaten as food == | ||
Any non-toxic plant or flower is food even if not usually eaten as such, so I made this minor change. I also switched verb tenses because works of fiction should be spoken of in present tense. Additionally, saying that Pokémon eat "herbs" is more than a little vague. Do Pokémon eat plants without woody stems, or plants that possess medicinal qualities? What kinds? If these details aren't clear, it would be more accurate to simply say they can eat plants. [[User:Silmina|Silmina]] 17:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC) | Any non-toxic plant or flower is food even if not usually eaten as such, so I made this minor change. I also switched verb tenses because works of fiction should be spoken of in present tense. Additionally, saying that Pokémon eat "herbs" is more than a little vague. Do Pokémon eat plants without woody stems, or plants that possess medicinal qualities? What kinds? If these details aren't clear, it would be more accurate to simply say they can eat plants. [[User:Silmina|Silmina]] 17:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Would items such as Energyroot, Energypowder, Revival Herb and Heal Herb perhaps fit into this category? [[User:Sceptileninja|Sceptileninja]] 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Official Pokémon Handbook? == | == Official Pokémon Handbook? == | ||
Since when was it's entries relevant? If they're copied over from the original Pokédex entries, then the Pokédex entries themselves should be referenced, not a book that was only released by a third-party in the US. That said, there are many, many cases of Pokédex entries that talk about Pokémon Predation, this should be a more thoroughly discussed subsection. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 16: | Since when was it's entries relevant? If they're copied over from the original Pokédex entries, then the Pokédex entries themselves should be referenced, not a book that was only released by a third-party in the US. That said, there are many, many cases of Pokédex entries that talk about Pokémon Predation, this should be a more thoroughly discussed subsection. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 16:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
== In The Pink == | |||
I was re-watching some of the older episodes, and I think we can learn in "In The Pink" about some pokemon's diet. In the episode, it is said that the pinkan berry gives a pokemon a pink coloring. Later, we see pokemon such as diglett, which have an unknown diet, with the pink coloring. Shouldn't it be added to all the pink pokemon's diet information that they eat fruit? | |||
It should be noted that the chemicals that colors the pokemon may come from the ground itself, and that the diglett doesn't actually eat the fruit but is affected by the ground it resides in. What do you think? --[[User:Grubdubdub|Grubdubdub]] 08:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Eating other Pokémon == | |||
I think I've come up with a theory regarding Pokémon "hunting" and "preying on" other Pokémon. | |||
In nature, animals must find food in order to survive, and their daily activities are devoted almost entirely to finding food. It's what they are designed for. But what are Pokémon designed for? Ganing experience, battling, and evolving. | |||
When it states in the Pokédex that a Pokémon "preys" on another Pokémon, Pigeot preying on Magikarp for example, it could simply be taken to mean that Pigeot search for Magikarp to defeat in battle, so they gain experience points, raise in level, learn new moves and so on. It is never mentioned that the Pigeot actually ''eats'' the Magikarp. | |||
However, I seem to remember reading somewhere that Pokémon seldom battle in the wild, which does not support the theory. But wild Pokémon must gain experience somehow, otherwise how would you be able to battle level 40 Raichu in the Unknown Dungeon? | |||
So, what do you think? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:We believe that it is possible,but not likely.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 00:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
:There is also mention in the Pokédex that Ekans and Sneasel will sometimes eat the eggs birds such as Pidgey and Spearow, though this may fall into the category of food produced by Pokémon instead. [[User:Sceptileninja|Sceptileninja]] 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
First off Why are all my comments being ignored or deleted? The information is completely relivent. Secondly if Farfetch'd is in fact eaten by people as a delicacy why should it not be mentiond? [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 19:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Not sure what's going on with the comments being removed, but feel free to add the information yourself. '''<span style="font-family: Verdana;">~ [[User:Sol|<span style="color:#0080ff;">sol</span>]][[User talk:Sol|<span style="color:#4090ff;">ar</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|<span style="color:#a8d3ff;">is</span>]]</span>''' 20:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Food produced by Pokémon == | |||
Is information about food produced by Pokémon kosher so to speak? Should it be included in the article? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 23:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:What you mean like the berry juice that Shuckle makes? Yes, I think that's a great idea! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:There, I just started the "Food produced by Pokémon" section, feel free to add to it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Drinks? == | |||
What about Fresh Water, Soda Pop and Lemonade? Should these not be included as Pokémon food? [[User:Sceptileninja|Sceptileninja]] 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Wait... == | |||
In Pokémon snap, they were reffered to as "Apple-Shaped Pokémon Food", not apples. Should that be noted? --[[User:Gen1king|<span style="color:#F08030;">'''GE'''</span>]][[User talk:Gen1king|<span style="color:#CC0000">'''N1'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|<span style="color:#660000">'''KI'''</span><span style="color:#330000">'''NG'''</span>]] 03:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Is this incorrect? == | |||
This page mentions that the first mention of pokémon being eaten was Slowpoke tails. This was mentiond in Johto. However while Ash was traviling in Kanto his pokédex spoke of literaly cooking Farfetch'd with leeks! Should this information be changed? [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 20:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I thought I had already fixed that. Oh well, it's fixed now. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Hmmm.... == | |||
14k points? When I checked Nintendo 64's Snap, Oak required 25k points. 14k is from VC's version? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:50, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Slowbro-Shellder place on article == | |||
Ok, I was curious on if Mosquito and Ticks were a Parasite, which lead me to the word Ectoparasite. I went to Wikipedia, and according to the definition of Parasite on there.... | |||
"Parasitism is a non-mutual symbiotic relationship between species, where one species, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host." | |||
as we know, both Slowpoke/Slowbro and Shellder benefit and are in a symbiotic relationship. Until now I thought it was parasitism on Shellder's behalf but it would seem that cannot be so from the definition. I removed Slowbro and Shellder from the article section on parasitic feeding, but replaced it but hide it until we can figure out what to do. | |||
I think it should still be on the article somewhere, but it doesn't fit in the parasite feeding section. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Farfetch'd == | |||
"According to the Pokédex, Farfetch'd is so rare because it has been hunted down for food and makes a rather delicious meal." | |||
Shouldn't this be under "Humans eating Pokémon" instead of "Eating other Pokémon"? | |||
== Hunting Mudbray == | |||
Mudbray were almost hunted to extinction, but it's not mentioned if this was for sport, food, or like how people capture wild horses and tame them (which sometimes leads to the accidental death of the wild horse through one or more unforeseeable events). So, until its made clear how or why they were hunted to extinction, perhaps we should make some mention of how some Pokémon were simply hunted by humans and lead to endangerment or something of that nature [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:If we don't know it was for food, I don't see how it's relevant to this page... [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:15, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:: oops, got my wires crossed and thought the article covered more than just pokemon as food. But anyways, since we're on the subject, is it safe to assume it was for food? I mean if you look at human history, the words hunt and extinction rarely is attributed to sport hunting. And in real world, when humans arrived in central asia they hunted horses for meat and their skin to make leather. I doubt the pokemon company is going to go out of its way to say it was for meat, since they've shied away from making their universe too PG-13. I am pretty sure we can also rule out hunting to capture since that typically leads to breeding programs and that wouldn't lead to a population decline, so its likely either or both meat and fur/skin. Also, should there be a subarticle about pokemon that are/were hunted? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Page move proposal == | |||
I think this page should be moved to [[Food in the Pokémon world]] to better match other pages like [[Death in the Pokémon world]]. While it would slightly expand the scope of the article, this article is already about other things than just Pokémon food. [[User:Minibug|Minibug]] ([[User talk:Minibug|talk]]) 11:26, 29 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:This article is specifically about food eaten by Pokémon and other topics relating to Pokémon diet, so I think it's fine as is. However, an article about the types of food in the Pokémon world that humans eat, including real-world food such as [[malasada]]s, could perhaps be interesting as a separate article. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="#00d1bc">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="#006699">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 09:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Dragalge/Finizen? == | |||
Hello there, | |||
I've noticed something. In the predatory relationships, Dragalge preying on Finizen is missing. Is it because the Dex entries don't explicitly mention that Dragalge preys on Finizen, only that it attacks anything on its territory and needs to ambush the dolphin? | |||
If this is the case, Finizen's biology section should be edited to reflect that, as its page explicitly states that Dragalge preys on it. Obviously both are incompatible, I just want to know which one needs to be fixed. | |||
Thank you! | |||
EDIT: my bad, I didn't look at the right place. I was expecting that relationship being shown at the bottom of the board. | |||
[[User:OddSifr|OddSifr]] ([[User talk:OddSifr|talk]]) 16:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 17:22, 15 November 2023
canaclave library
There's a book in the library that talks about licking clean the bones of pokemon. i was wondering if it could be added. Mr. Maril Of Oldale 03:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I used to think it was spelled Canaclave too... Pokémon Food is about food that Pokémon eat, that's about when humans eat Pokémon. --DialgaRULES 03:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Alas, poor Farfetch'd. Sceptileninja 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Original Pokemon?
That seems pretty vague,seems like we're just refering to Gen.1 Pokemon. But,Pokedex entries still refer to hunting,and such..Alot,though Shinoh is mellower then the previous regions when it comes to pokedex entries Lovely Rose 01:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Not typically eaten as food
Any non-toxic plant or flower is food even if not usually eaten as such, so I made this minor change. I also switched verb tenses because works of fiction should be spoken of in present tense. Additionally, saying that Pokémon eat "herbs" is more than a little vague. Do Pokémon eat plants without woody stems, or plants that possess medicinal qualities? What kinds? If these details aren't clear, it would be more accurate to simply say they can eat plants. Silmina 17:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Would items such as Energyroot, Energypowder, Revival Herb and Heal Herb perhaps fit into this category? Sceptileninja 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Official Pokémon Handbook?
Since when was it's entries relevant? If they're copied over from the original Pokédex entries, then the Pokédex entries themselves should be referenced, not a book that was only released by a third-party in the US. That said, there are many, many cases of Pokédex entries that talk about Pokémon Predation, this should be a more thoroughly discussed subsection. Satosuke 16:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
In The Pink
I was re-watching some of the older episodes, and I think we can learn in "In The Pink" about some pokemon's diet. In the episode, it is said that the pinkan berry gives a pokemon a pink coloring. Later, we see pokemon such as diglett, which have an unknown diet, with the pink coloring. Shouldn't it be added to all the pink pokemon's diet information that they eat fruit?
It should be noted that the chemicals that colors the pokemon may come from the ground itself, and that the diglett doesn't actually eat the fruit but is affected by the ground it resides in. What do you think? --Grubdubdub 08:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Eating other Pokémon
I think I've come up with a theory regarding Pokémon "hunting" and "preying on" other Pokémon.
In nature, animals must find food in order to survive, and their daily activities are devoted almost entirely to finding food. It's what they are designed for. But what are Pokémon designed for? Ganing experience, battling, and evolving.
When it states in the Pokédex that a Pokémon "preys" on another Pokémon, Pigeot preying on Magikarp for example, it could simply be taken to mean that Pigeot search for Magikarp to defeat in battle, so they gain experience points, raise in level, learn new moves and so on. It is never mentioned that the Pigeot actually eats the Magikarp.
However, I seem to remember reading somewhere that Pokémon seldom battle in the wild, which does not support the theory. But wild Pokémon must gain experience somehow, otherwise how would you be able to battle level 40 Raichu in the Unknown Dungeon?
So, what do you think? Taromon777 22:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- We believe that it is possible,but not likely.--Mtn otter We are the Void 00:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
- There is also mention in the Pokédex that Ekans and Sneasel will sometimes eat the eggs birds such as Pidgey and Spearow, though this may fall into the category of food produced by Pokémon instead. Sceptileninja 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
First off Why are all my comments being ignored or deleted? The information is completely relivent. Secondly if Farfetch'd is in fact eaten by people as a delicacy why should it not be mentiond? EpicShadow 19:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure what's going on with the comments being removed, but feel free to add the information yourself. ~ solaris 20:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Food produced by Pokémon
Is information about food produced by Pokémon kosher so to speak? Should it be included in the article? PDL 23:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- What you mean like the berry juice that Shuckle makes? Yes, I think that's a great idea! Taromon777 15:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- There, I just started the "Food produced by Pokémon" section, feel free to add to it! Taromon777 15:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Drinks?
What about Fresh Water, Soda Pop and Lemonade? Should these not be included as Pokémon food? Sceptileninja 16:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Wait...
In Pokémon snap, they were reffered to as "Apple-Shaped Pokémon Food", not apples. Should that be noted? --GEN1KING 03:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Is this incorrect?
This page mentions that the first mention of pokémon being eaten was Slowpoke tails. This was mentiond in Johto. However while Ash was traviling in Kanto his pokédex spoke of literaly cooking Farfetch'd with leeks! Should this information be changed? EpicShadow 20:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- I thought I had already fixed that. Oh well, it's fixed now. --SnorlaxMonster 11:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm....
14k points? When I checked Nintendo 64's Snap, Oak required 25k points. 14k is from VC's version? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 18:50, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Slowbro-Shellder place on article
Ok, I was curious on if Mosquito and Ticks were a Parasite, which lead me to the word Ectoparasite. I went to Wikipedia, and according to the definition of Parasite on there....
"Parasitism is a non-mutual symbiotic relationship between species, where one species, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host."
as we know, both Slowpoke/Slowbro and Shellder benefit and are in a symbiotic relationship. Until now I thought it was parasitism on Shellder's behalf but it would seem that cannot be so from the definition. I removed Slowbro and Shellder from the article section on parasitic feeding, but replaced it but hide it until we can figure out what to do.
I think it should still be on the article somewhere, but it doesn't fit in the parasite feeding section. Yamitora1 (talk) 16:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Farfetch'd
"According to the Pokédex, Farfetch'd is so rare because it has been hunted down for food and makes a rather delicious meal."
Shouldn't this be under "Humans eating Pokémon" instead of "Eating other Pokémon"?
Hunting Mudbray
Mudbray were almost hunted to extinction, but it's not mentioned if this was for sport, food, or like how people capture wild horses and tame them (which sometimes leads to the accidental death of the wild horse through one or more unforeseeable events). So, until its made clear how or why they were hunted to extinction, perhaps we should make some mention of how some Pokémon were simply hunted by humans and lead to endangerment or something of that nature Yamitora1 (talk) 19:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- If we don't know it was for food, I don't see how it's relevant to this page... Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:15, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- oops, got my wires crossed and thought the article covered more than just pokemon as food. But anyways, since we're on the subject, is it safe to assume it was for food? I mean if you look at human history, the words hunt and extinction rarely is attributed to sport hunting. And in real world, when humans arrived in central asia they hunted horses for meat and their skin to make leather. I doubt the pokemon company is going to go out of its way to say it was for meat, since they've shied away from making their universe too PG-13. I am pretty sure we can also rule out hunting to capture since that typically leads to breeding programs and that wouldn't lead to a population decline, so its likely either or both meat and fur/skin. Also, should there be a subarticle about pokemon that are/were hunted? Yamitora1 (talk) 06:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Page move proposal
I think this page should be moved to Food in the Pokémon world to better match other pages like Death in the Pokémon world. While it would slightly expand the scope of the article, this article is already about other things than just Pokémon food. Minibug (talk) 11:26, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- This article is specifically about food eaten by Pokémon and other topics relating to Pokémon diet, so I think it's fine as is. However, an article about the types of food in the Pokémon world that humans eat, including real-world food such as malasadas, could perhaps be interesting as a separate article. Landfish7 09:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Dragalge/Finizen?
Hello there,
I've noticed something. In the predatory relationships, Dragalge preying on Finizen is missing. Is it because the Dex entries don't explicitly mention that Dragalge preys on Finizen, only that it attacks anything on its territory and needs to ambush the dolphin?
If this is the case, Finizen's biology section should be edited to reflect that, as its page explicitly states that Dragalge preys on it. Obviously both are incompatible, I just want to know which one needs to be fixed.
Thank you!
EDIT: my bad, I didn't look at the right place. I was expecting that relationship being shown at the bottom of the board.