Talk:Raichu (Pokémon)

Surf

So how exactly do I teach it surf? Something tells me it's possible somehow, but how? I can't do it through the HM, but I know it's possible somehow as it is somewhere in the page. 13:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Evolve a surfing Pikachu. tc26 13:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

You need a special, surfing Pikachu, then you evolve it. I think they were given out at an event before Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 15:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

You can obtain a Pikachu with Surf by clearing Pokémon Battle Revolution and Mystery Gifting it to Diamond or Pearl. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 15:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Could this be worth noting in the trivia section of this article? I'm not watching the other article since I'm not very interested in pre-evolved Pokémon up to Hoenn. (Rhydon and Magmar interest me though, as they were fully evolved before generation IV) TheBlazikenMaster 16:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Lt. Surge's Raichu Pic

I think that there's gotta be a pic of Lt. Surge's Raichu in the anime section. So I'll put the pic from the "Lt. Surge's Raichu" page on the anime section of the page.--DRAGONBEAST^X 18:11, 23 January 2009 (UTC).

Okay, something a little confusing happened to the page with the anime pics. I'm not sure but I think the original pic was Lt. Surge's Raichu. It was then replaced by Ash's Summer School Raichu. I then put Lt. Surge's Raichu to be along with the Ash's Summer School, making 2 pics in the anime section. Someone(I don't remember who it was.) replaced Ash's Summer School Raichu, leaving by Lt. Surge's Raichu to on there just like it originally was. Couldn't we have 2 pics? Or is 1 enough?--DRAGONBEAST^X 04:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

One is enough, but two can be inserted but that isn't necessary.--FF(edits-talk) 04:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Should Ash's Summer School Raichu replace Lt. Surge's Raichu. Force Fire, you did put the template saying the pic is unsatisfactory....... so?--DRAGONBEAST^X 04:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

You can if you want to, it's just episode pics were you have to get permission.--FF(edits-talk) 04:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay....... so, I'll replace Lt. Surge's Raichu with Ash's Summer School Raichu.--DRAGONBEAST^X 04:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

*nods*--FF(edits-talk) 04:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Gotta admit, now that I compare the two pics, the pic with Lt. Surge's Raichu really is kinda "unsatisfactory"...... now the section's pic is all good, the Summer School one looks more than satisfactory.--DRAGONBEAST^X 05:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It was jpg, and still blurry though, changed it so it features only Raichu.--FF(edits-talk) 05:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Force Fire, you got an even CLEARER pic, wow, very good pic!--DRAGONBEAST^X 05:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

thx :P--FF(edits-talk) 05:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon Yellow

I'm almost positive Raichu were catchable in the Power Plant in yellow Lego3400 03:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm completely positive you're wrong. Cerulean Cave in RBG. —darklordtrom 05:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

by cheating don't you? --kyokencl 12:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

If you cheat then anything's possible. D: —darklordtrom 08:30, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Obtainable trivia

the trivia fact "Raichu remains the only Pokémon whose pre-evolution is known and obtainable in a game that it is not: in Pokémon Yellow, Pikachu is the starter, while the only way to obtain a Raichu is by trading one in from one of the other games because that Pikachu refuses to evolve." seems to also apply for Umbreon and Espeon in FireRed LeafGreen as Eevee is known and obtainable but these evolutions are not. I think it might be a wording problem because I think the original trivia poster meant to say that "Raichu is known in the native pokedex, it`s pre-evolved form is obtainable AND the method to evolve is typical for that region but is unobtainable without trading" but that sounds a little over-specific to me -- D558 21:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

But you don't find out about Espeon until you get to the Battle Tower on the Sevvi Islands, and that's even only after you unlock trading with games other than FR/LG. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:39, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Yea I understand that but the trivia fact never mentions anything like "yet it is still in the native pokedex" or "is known in the native pokedex and should be obtainable due to its pre-evolutions availability but isn`t" -- D558 09:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

If we keep adding qualifiers the trivia gets less notable. I've removed it. —darklordtrom 04:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean to sound so fussy about it, I did get what the trivia was trying to say, but anyways, this brings up a question; Would this count as a contribution from me? (not that I think I will ever get enough to get one of those marks on my user page) -- D558 09:39, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Contributions are purely your edits to any page. How you get the recognition for edit count is by having one of the highest number of edits to mainspace pages, pages that don't have "User" or "Talk" in the title. But none of this should be about trying to get something to throw up on your page. It should be about improving the Pedia instead of making yourself look good. R.A. Hunter Blade 04:38, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I never implied I was in it for "making [myself] look good." I was merely curious since I saw one recently. -- D558 20:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm just making sure. We have a bunch of people who edit just to get that thing for their page. Some state it outright after they join when they're editing a talk page, and some don't say anything for a while, and then it comes out. It's also a reminder to everybody who does think that editing is a sort of contest to see who's best. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Trivia Mistake

One piece of trivia reads "Raichu's FireRed Pokédex entry references an early documentary film by Thomas Edison, discoverer of electricity." Thomas Edison did not discover electricity. Shipwreck Kelly 12:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Fixed... R.A. Hunter Blade 22:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Name Origin

I think it should be mentioned that Rai also means "Next" in Japanese (rainen = next year, raigetsu = next month, etc.) so it has sort of a dual meaning as the "next" pikachu and also as thunder. -- Nerevar 01:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Possible trivia?

Would it be worth mentioning that in the anime, when battling Lt Surge's Riachu, someone says something about Raichu being slower then Pikachu, even though it has a higher base stat for speed? Miscs 08:22, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Lt. Surge's Raichu didn't learn the speed attacks (Agility and Quick Attack) that it could only learn when it was a Pikachu, since Lt. Surge evolved it immediately. So Ash's Pikachu could outspeed it by using those attacks. The comment was about that rather than base speed. Werdnae (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Obtainability via Dream World

I highly doubt the claim that Pikachu or Pichu can be found on Dream World. Is there a source for this claim? Weixifan 01:19, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I am taking out the bit that claims Raichu can be found in the Dream World. I am also requesting that all further discussion about this be done in one place: on Pikachu's talk page. Weixifan 00:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Volt Tackle

Should Volt Tackle be in Raichu's table of moves it can learn from a previos evolution? Or can he just not learn it at all. Iml908 (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

It's in the Breeding list because that's how it gets learnt. Werdnae (talk) 19:36, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Thunderbolt

Can someone add Thunderbolt to the list of Gen I moves that Raichu can learn from its previous evolution Pikachu level 26 in Yellow only.

I'd do it myself but I'm new and haven't figured it out yet. Thanks, Pokejawns (talk) 06:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Raichu can learn Thunderbolt from TM, so it isn't necessary to put it on that table. The table is for moves that can be learned only from prior evolution, so we don't include moves learned through other means. Thanks, though. Crystal Talian 06:49, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Coloration

Is it just me or does it look like Raichu's sprites from Generation II are flipped in Generation III? The shiny in Gen II becomes the normal sprite in Gen III and vice-versa (with the exception of the shiny from Gen II's white tail). I'm sure this is notable, whether this is a mistake or a bit of trivia. C.Wallace (Talk|Contribs) 20:39, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Sprite trivia isn't notable. It's because it's self-evident from the sprite box (right above it), as well as so numerous and subjective. --Abcboy (talk) 20:45, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

How many Pokémon get their normal and shiny sprites flipped from one generation to the next? I would say not too many, if any besides Raichu. I would say that this is as objective an observation as one can make. C.Wallace (Talk|Contribs) 20:50, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

At least Paras, Sunkern and Elekid do this as well.--電禅Den Zen 21:07, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Is it non-notable though? There has to be some reason for a complete switch right? C.Wallace (Talk|Contribs) 22:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Name origin (again)

In addition to being a portmanteau of rai and chuchu, maybe Raichu's name is also a pun on raiju, the traditional Japanese beast of lightning. (I noticed the Wikipedia article on raiju cited Raichu in the same breath as Jolteon, Manectric, and Raikou.) --Stratelier 18:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

EXP yield in Gen VI

Similarly to Pikachu's case, the EXP yield has increased to 218 in Gen VI. Documenting it here for future consideration when making changes to the infobox template. Chenzw (talk) 14:06, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Alolan Raichu

It's been leaked on PokéBeach that Raichu will have an Alolan Form with Electric/Psychic typing with the ability Surge Surfer. Kangaflora (talk) 21:27, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

As a rule, Bulbapedia doesn't acknowledge leaks until they're offically confirmed. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

What about when Hoopa and Volcanion were given pages before they were officially unveiled? Starscream (talk) 01:44, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

I think that happen, because at 2013 Halloween one hacker hacked XY games, so proof it self was games files that time.SViper (talk) 01:47, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Regardless, Alolan Raichu is officially revealed now, and should be added. AmoongussForLife (talk) 14:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Sun/Moon Offical Site's info on Alola Raichu changes?

I think that the reasons/research/whatever given on the official sun/moon's site regarding Alola Raichu should be added to Raichu's biology description, like the other Alola forms/regional variants... PkmnTrainerV (talk) 12:43, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

They will be. Biologies are fairly complex to write and take some time. It and all the other Alola variants and new Pokemon will have them added as soon as we are able. If you would like to post a draft here on the talkpage, you are welcome to and they are sometimes very helpful in speeding up the process. Crystal Talian 12:51, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Puka

Calling Alolan Raichu a reference to Puka seems like a bit of a stretch and it ignores a lot of history. The blue eyes could be an intentional nod, but giving a surfing/water themed Pokemon a touch of blue doesn't seem unusual.

Surfing Pikachu/Raichu has always been a popular concept. It first appeared in the original manga, we had the very popular TCG promo card, you could teach your Pikachu surf in the original Pokemon Stadium which gave both Pika and Raichu unique surfing animations (where Raichu used it's tail, very similar to how it does in its Alolan form) and was of course a minigame in Pokemon Yellow. All before that episode of the anime aired. So why is that thought to be the origin of the idea? Five (talk) 09:10, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Because Alola Raichu has a psychic typing, and Puka was said to sense the waves of water, and it seems something related to psychic typing. If Alola Raichu was solely a surfing Raichu, then why didn't it gain an electric/water type? The Flame Trainer is Here! 10:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

The current note in the origin section was supposed to be largely about the eyes. I've added a specific mention of surfing Pikachu to the page, as the first sentence of the Alolan Raichu origin. --SnorlaxMonster 10:25, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Trivia: Raichu being a stone-induced evo obtainable in the wild.

Raichu is the first Pokemon in the National dex that is a stone-induced evolution that can be encountered in the Wild, and also the earliest to be encountered (Power Plant on Green/IntlBlue then subsequently Cerulean Cave), With the next in line being Wigglytuff (Cerulean Cave).

They also share the distinction of stone-evos in the wild being removed from Pokemon Yellow's wild encounters.

Additional point: The next time evolved stone-induced evolutions can be met in the wild of core series handheld games, is in Generation V, primarily through Phenomenon or Hidden Grottos.

Theslayer (talk) 15:27, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

This really isn't notable. Especially since the other stone-induced evolution is in the same generation. If Raichu was the only stone-induced evolution available in the wild, that might be notable. That doesn't appear to be the case, though. Crystal Talian 15:53, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I just thought it was interesting that only wild Raichu and Wigglytuff was encounter-able, as my first game was Yellow (a good 15 years ago), hence I never really noticed until I replayed them the other day.

Furthermore, they appear without any special encounter (unlike Phenomenon or Hidden Grottos in Gen V).

Anyhow, thanks for the explaining on why it isn't that notable! Theslayer (talk) 06:46, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Unique Typing

Electric/Psychic for Alola Raichu is unique, isn't it? Or do we have another Electric/Psyhic? The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here! (talk) 10:30, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Gorochu

I'll leave this to your lot's discretion, I'm just here to open a dialogue. Is this worth a trivia mention? Apparently, Raichu was originally meant to be only a middle-stage.--Darknesslover5000 (talk) 04:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Forms in the Pokédex Entries (game data) section

I really can not find where else to ask this, so I'm just asking this here. Why combine alternate forms into the same entry box as the original? First of all, why do it for regional forms like Alolan Raichu, or other forms where an individual of the species can not change between them, like the Cap Pikachu or Shellos forms? I have to ask that question because Meowth does not combine its regional forms into one entry box, only combining Kantonian Meowth and Gigantamax Meowth. Second, why do it at all? It looks bad, to put it simply. It adds at least one line within the entry boxes that looks really bad, in the way it separates the game name boxes (I don't know what else to call them) and generally bloats them up, taking space that makes it harder to locate any given entry in the box. It makes it far more difficult to locate entries for a given form. If I want to see the entries for just the Gigantamax forms of Pokémon that have them, there is no simple shortcut to do so, and if I were someone who wasn't particularly sure of when a Pokémon's form was added, it would make searching for its entries even more difficult. Some users may not be aware that alternate forms did not start getting unique Pokédex entries until Generation VII, and the way the current entry boxes are, it could easily make it far more confusing than it could be. It also makes it more difficult to compare the entries for one form to another for the same form, when there are extra entries of a different form bloating the entry box. In short, I think it takes up too much space within the entry box, and while separating the entry boxes may take up more space in the article, I believe that it is better design philosophy to set things out in a more organized fashion, which in my opinion is form -> game rather than game -> form, because of the bloating that having both forms in the same game section can cause for that game section. MarioMiner (talk) 03:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Aha, you helped me figure out what bugs me so much about the new design. We can't jump to the alt-forms entries from the top of the page any more. Zurqoxn (talk) 14:15, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

This is something that is being done in an effort to reduce overall page size and template inclusions (which is something we have to be concerned about on large pages). The project had only just started, which is why other regional forms had not yet been converted, however, other staff members also raised concern about the merging of regional forms as they are 'distinct enough' personally, I'd rather give them their own page if we're just going to separate out the information like this but that has not garnered support amongst staff. As for the line 'looking bad', I kinda disagree because I feel having them separated over multiple boxes made them look clunky. And if you are having trouble locating a specific entry, I don't really know what to say about that other than that is why the headings of the forms were in there. --Spriteit (talk) 08:09, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

actually

I got an Alolan Raichu thats original trainer is my player character's name without the expansion pass. It even has the same ID No. as my starter. Pikachu210 (talk) 16:41, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Goh's Raichu

Has anyone even mentioned it on the article? If not, I'll do it myself.Hello, it's me, GalarChamp Cinderace! (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Goh's Raichu is mentioned in the Other subheading of the anime section. It is the last line, right above Minor Appearances. --SpinyShell (talk) 20:04, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hodad

This page misses on table "In other languages" for Hodad. Vulpix's "Keokeo" already has one.--Rocket Grunt 15:14, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Galar evolution

Maybe there should be a clarification in the evolution table, like Mime Jr.'s page. Does the thunderstone have to be used in Galar? On a Pikachu originating from Galar? etc. Draceon (talk) 03:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Raichu's colors different than usual.

I noticed that in some episodes Raichu's patches on his legs and arms are brown, while usually they were gray.

For example, in the episode "Gotta Catch a What?!" Goh's Raichu has gray patches

And in the episode "Take My Thief! Please!" his patches are brown, the wild Raichu that also appear in this episode have the same color scheme.

On the page dedicated to Goh's Raichu, in the photo signed as "Raichu and Goh" he has gray, and in the photo below "Raichu feeding Goh's other Pokémon" he already has brown.

What do you think about it ?

Greetings BartoszToLolek (talk) 22:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

It seems like it's just the lighting to me. Landfish7 22:27, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

In my opinion definitely not, in both situations these Raichu are on the outside, the rest of the colors should also change . Now I'm just watching the episode "Grabbing the Brass Ring!" and there the patches are brown again, those stripes on the back too, the ears have also changed to brown. BartoszToLolek (talk) 22:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

I mean yeah the lighting is inconsistently applied, but it still seems like lighting to me. The fact that the ears and stripes on the back change too indicates a lighting change to me. I don't think minor color differences are going to be notable anyway, as it's not clear whether it means something, whether it's just the lighting, a different animator working on a particular scene or episode, or an error/inconsistency. Anything we say about it would be speculative. If Goh's Raichu was consistently colored differently than other Raichu, like how Ash's Gengar is shown to be a different color than other Gengar, maybe it could be mentioned. Otherwise, it's really a minor thing and not really notable. Landfish7 23:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Now when I look again at the color scheme between the episodes "Gotta Catch a What?!" and "Grabbing the Brass Ring!" you can see a big difference, even Raichu's main color has changed a little.It seems to me that even a different animator would not change the colors, since I remember such a situation has never happened, remember that the color change I am writing about occurs in several episodes, not just one. If I can I'd be happy to take screenshots of each episode and give a link to an external site which I'll post it, I don't know if it's possible to post external links so I'm asking. All in all, I don't mean to post this information somewhere, I just wanted to tell about my observation. BartoszToLolek (talk) 23:34, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Keep in mind that talk pages are for discussing changes to the article. All other discussions belong on the forums or on the discord. If you're proposing we add something to the article, or make a specific change based on your observations, I'd be happy to continue to discuss it, but otherwise this should be taken elsewhere. Landfish7 23:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Well in that case I would like to stay with the suggestion to add information to the articles.Then I would like to reiterate my question about whether I can post a link to an external site where I can easily present screen projections from the aforementioned episodes and several others. If I am not able to post a link to an external site please write me in what other way I could present it.If you are willing and at all possible I would be happy to continue this topic with you in private messages via Discord. BartoszToLolek (talk) 00:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

What you seem to be describing is lighting. There's nothing special about that. You're looking way too deep into something that's not there.--ForceFire 02:13, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't want to answer you because I would just have to repeat myself and I would like to leave as much order as possible here. If Mr. landfish7 answers my previous question and everything is ok, I will start gathering information, doing research, when I am done of course I will present what I found. Greetings. BartoszToLolek (talk) 16:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)