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Basically, I'm trying figure out whether it is "greater than or equal to" or just "greater than". You get what I'm saying? [[User:Norle|Norle]] 01:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Basically, I'm trying figure out whether it is "greater than or equal to" or just "greater than". You get what I'm saying? [[User:Norle|Norle]] 01:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
== Headings ==
The headings used to divide groups of Pokémon by weight are extremely inconsistent. Some of the division headings use the actual weights of their lightest and heaviest Pokémon, while others seem to use entirely arbitrary weights in their divisions. (Example: the last section of heavyweights is supposed to include "903.0 lbs to 1041.0 lbs" but there aren't Pokémon with either of those weights. However, the second section includes "11.5 lbs to 22.0 lbs" and the first and last Pokémon in that section have those exact weights.) Either we need to change all the headings to list exact first and last weights, or make none of them exact weights. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 01:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

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Should MissingNo. be included here?

  • It has a Pokédex number (000)
  • It has a weight
  • It is a Glitch Pokémon

File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 00:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Flawless logic if ever I heard it. Missingno. Master 00:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a Pokémon. :/ It's a glitch. We removed it from the list on Normal... Tina δ 00:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
REALLY!! (sarcastic of course) In the article, it said that it is a Glitch Pokémon. OH OH WHAT NOW!?!File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 00:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I meant an actual Pokémon, like Bulbasaur. Actual, official, meant-to-be-programmed-in, ones that are listed in official guides. Yeah. >:C Tina δ 00:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
People, Missingno. is a Glitch, NOT a Pokémon! Therefore, it should not be included in the list. end of discussion. File:Ani234MS.gifMERRY File:Ani385MS.gif CHRISTMASFile:Ani225MS.gif 00:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I dont think that it is even a glitch. File:Ani491MS.gifKPFFile:Ani123MS.gif 00:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh so a Glitch Pokémon isn't an actual Pokémon? No one had EVER said that MissingNo. wasn't meant-to-be-programmed-in. And technically, official guides aren't actually official (unless they were written by the creators themselves).OH OH WHAT NOW!!?!!File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 00:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The "glitch" moniker takes precedence over the "Pokémon" moniker. Besides, I don't go around saying "put Teru-sama in the list of items". It's a GLITCH before it is anything else, the "Pokémon" part merely indicates the type of glitch. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 00:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
How do you know that it isn't a pokémon? It has a weight. It has a Dexno. It has a type (two actually). It has a height. It has a catch rate. It is a species. It has stats. It can attack. It is obviously alive.File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 00:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Umm.. how the frick do you know it's an actual Pokémon? XDD; Tina δ 00:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Did I even mention that I know that it is an actual pokémon? I think not! WHAT NOW!?!File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 00:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
...the way you're throwing around this incredibly stupid arguement, it sounds like you do think Missinga$$ is a Pokémon, just not any reasons for it.
It's a glitch, it's a glitch Pokémon, whatever you call it, it's just not a Pokémon like say, our good buddy Bulbasaur is. Missingno's 'data' in the 'dex is nothing but garbage, or 'borrowed' from another Pookémon. Tina δ 01:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes but I still believe that all glitch pokémon are pokémon and glitch items are items. But of course it is only my opinion. One can't always trust a pokédexFile:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 01:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
However.. that's only your mind.. Tina δ 01:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
OR!!!, of course, one could always just put MissingNo. in a trivia section of the articleFile:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 01:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
No. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 01:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
...um. We.. don't need to mention every glitch in articles that tell about data that glitches happen to have.. >_>;;; Tina δ 01:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I of course knew you were going to say that(both TTE and Tina)File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 01:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Of course, majority rules. End of argument.File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 01:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Well. That was all unnecessary. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 01:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
My apologiesFile:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 01:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

If I could just input my opinion here...

First off, I wholeheartedly agree with Pokemaniac, for saying that all Glitch Pokémon are Pokémon. I've taken that stand myself for as long as I can remember. I mean, it makes sense. Missingno. has a catch rate, a dex entry, a sprite, attacks, types, a cry, and base stats. Far as I'm concerned, that's what constitutes a Pokémon.

Secondly, I think glitch Pokémon should be included in these sorts of articles, but under a special category. Say, for instance, the page Normal (type). We have categories for pure normals, normals with a secondary type, and other types with normal as a secondary type. I'm thinking a fourth category: Glitch Pokémon with a Normal type. This would include any and all glitch Pokémon with Normal as their only, first, second, or both types (And yes, there is a glitch Pokémon that's Normal/Normal). Just my idea. Feel free to shoot it down at your leisure. Missingno. Master 01:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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We don't need to include glitches on every single page that's made up of the 'regular' Pokémon, like the Normal (type) page. Look through the history - I think at one point Missingno was on there, but got taken off. See? :p Tina δ 01:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
'regular' ? Such Segregation (said in an overly dramatic way)File:Ani386MS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 03:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, there's a very large difference. Regular Pokémon appear in everything Pokémon-related. Glitch Pokémon don't appear in anything else but the games because they were never intended to be seen by anyone but the programmers. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 04:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Weight divisions

I think dividing the Pokémon into weight classes based on Low Kick/Grass Knot power would make it easier to tell how much damage those moves would do. --Wild Eep 21:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Actual borderlines

So, gee, guys, it's great and all that we have these divisions sets out for what affects what, but I was kinda thinking it might be a good idea to point out whether the ranges for the different effects are inclusive or exclusive. For example: "Pokémon weighing between 677.3 lbs and 903.0 lbs have a +30 catch rate when using a Heavy Ball" This doesn't say whether it is between 677.3 lbs and 903.0 lbs and does not include the actual numbers, or whether it does include the numbers.

Basically, I'm trying figure out whether it is "greater than or equal to" or just "greater than". You get what I'm saying? Norle 01:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Headings

The headings used to divide groups of Pokémon by weight are extremely inconsistent. Some of the division headings use the actual weights of their lightest and heaviest Pokémon, while others seem to use entirely arbitrary weights in their divisions. (Example: the last section of heavyweights is supposed to include "903.0 lbs to 1041.0 lbs" but there aren't Pokémon with either of those weights. However, the second section includes "11.5 lbs to 22.0 lbs" and the first and last Pokémon in that section have those exact weights.) Either we need to change all the headings to list exact first and last weights, or make none of them exact weights. PhantomJunkie 01:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)