Talk:Joey

"If examined through the use of a cheating device, Joey's Rattata really is in the top percent of Rattata, possessing an Adamant nature as well an IV spread of 30 31 29 31 26 30."

Which program was used to determine this? I know this doesn't belong here but I'm just curious. Gwonam 16:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

That's still there? I'm pretty sure CoolPikachu! confirmed that Joey's Rattata actually has an IV spread of 0 0 0 0 0 0. 梅子^❀_✿ 17:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it does... just like every other regular trainer Pokemon, it has a random nature (I think?) and 0 in all of its IVs. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 17:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Are you guys sure you didn't mix up EV with IV? All in-game trainers have an EV spread of 0 0 0 0 0 0, but I believe that most of them do in fact have IVs. I actually just confirmed this - on my Pearl, I captured a trainer's Pokémon and checked the IV spread - it was NOT 0 0 0 0 0 0. (I used Pearl so I wouldn't have a chance of corrupting my SoulSilver) (Anyway, Pearl backs up with AR DSi) --TruePikachu 04:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Joey's Rattata

I caught Joey's Rattata with the "catch trainer's Pokémon" Gameshark cheat, and it really does have all-zero IVs. It also has a Gentle nature (+Sp.Def, -Def). Myth busted!

It's actually quite common for trainers to have all-zero IVs on their Pokémon, but this isn't the case for every trainer. Tougher trainer classes have higher IVs to represent superior difficulty, and all IVs for a given Pokémon are equal. Approximate values are Rocket Grunts with IVs of all 3, Ace Trainers 6 or 7, Kimono Girls 18, the HGSS Kanto Gym leaders 25, and the Elite Four and Champion have 30. Trainer Pokémon never have EVs and never have beneficial nature except by chance. --JDigital 02:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Here are the stats on Joey's Rattata, for comparison: Level 4, Atk 9, Def 6, Sp.Atk 7, Sp.Def 7, Spd 10, HP 16. Nature: Gentle. Ability: Run Away. PID: 8073096. A trainer's Pokémon's PID is always the same, which is why the gender, nature and ability (and Spinda's spot pattern) are always the same. However, it may change in a re-match, since you're essentially fighting a different instance of that trainer. --JDigital 02:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

F.E.A.R.

Is it woth noting that in HGSS at the fourth+ battle, his Raticate knows the move Endeavor, which would almost perfectly spell out (F.ocus Sash), E.ndeavor, (Quick) A.ttack, R.aticate. Pawsrent 17:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't think so, unless it has a Focus Sash. Besides, I believe the R stands for its prevolution, not it. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 17:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)