Talk:Aurora Beam (move): Difference between revisions

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::For Aurora Beam, however, UPC [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=62.html suggests] that in Stadium, it might actually be '''''20%''''', but they're maybe not sure (they say what's in brackets is uncertain, but I've seen them use square brackets when they weren't sure elsewhere). The description ''is'' one-in-three, according to [[User:Abcboy#Text dumps|the text dump]]. I assume you didn't test in Stadium, or did you? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
::For Aurora Beam, however, UPC [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=62.html suggests] that in Stadium, it might actually be '''''20%''''', but they're maybe not sure (they say what's in brackets is uncertain, but I've seen them use square brackets when they weren't sure elsewhere). The description ''is'' one-in-three, according to [[User:Abcboy#Text dumps|the text dump]]. I assume you didn't test in Stadium, or did you? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
:::I haven't done anything in Stadium, no. All I've tested is a slightly modified version I made of pokered where the only changes are Aurora Beam having a base power 1 and Pidgey having it instead of Gust, which I really only used as a loose sort of verification, with the real evidence lying in the the disassembly's code. [[User:CunningClaymore|CunningClaymore]] ([[User talk:CunningClaymore|talk]]) 21:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
:::I haven't done anything in Stadium, no. All I've tested is a slightly modified version I made of pokered where the only changes are Aurora Beam having a base power 1 and Pidgey having it instead of Gust, which I really only used as a loose sort of verification, with the real evidence lying in the the disassembly's code. [[User:CunningClaymore|CunningClaymore]] ([[User talk:CunningClaymore|talk]]) 21:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
::::[http://datacrystal.romhacking.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Stadium:ROM_map#Acid.2C_Aurora_Beam.2C_Bubble.2C_Bubblebeam.2C_Psychic Apparently], the chance in Stadium still is 33.2%, and the in-game description is correct. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:51, 25 March 2017

Chance of secondary effect

The Stadium description says the secondary effect has a one-in-three chance. Is that description wrong, or did the effect chance used to be that in Generation I? yeyjordan 07:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Going through the core of Red's engine in the pokered disassembly seems to confirm that Aurora Beam does indeed have a 33.2% chance of lowering Attack. The procedure for moves with stat lowering as a secondary effect compares the the value 0x55 (decimal 85) with a random number, which is equivalent to a 85/256 = ~33.2% chance, which has historically only been known for the move Psychic. In-game testing that I've done seems to point to this chance instead of 10%, as stated in the article. Bubble, BubbleBeam, and Constrict are all in the same situation. CunningClaymore (talk) 20:04, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
I believe there's more than the ones you've mentioned, but I've updated those.
For Aurora Beam, however, UPC suggests that in Stadium, it might actually be 20%, but they're maybe not sure (they say what's in brackets is uncertain, but I've seen them use square brackets when they weren't sure elsewhere). The description is one-in-three, according to the text dump. I assume you didn't test in Stadium, or did you? Nescientist (talk) 18:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I haven't done anything in Stadium, no. All I've tested is a slightly modified version I made of pokered where the only changes are Aurora Beam having a base power 1 and Pidgey having it instead of Gust, which I really only used as a loose sort of verification, with the real evidence lying in the the disassembly's code. CunningClaymore (talk) 21:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Apparently, the chance in Stadium still is 33.2%, and the in-game description is correct. Nescientist (talk) 09:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)