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:::I'm not sure off the top of my head how rates for SOS calls work, but for weather-dependent calls like Poliwrath, who is indeed on the order of a 1% rate, it's worth noting that I easily went over 100 calls without seeing a Poliwrath. Also, 0.1% chance is way too low for even a halfway reasonable assumption. If we assume that chance isn't really chance exactly and a 1/50 chance meant you'd have to see a thing once in 50 events...even then, seeing 0 Fearow in 50 calls would only mean it's less than a 1/50 chance, or less than 2%. Of course, it is complete chance, though, so it is possible that, even though you didn't see Fearow, the real rate could still be, say, 5%. If something might be as small as 1%, you probably need ''at least'' 200 samples to fairly reasonably say it can't actually occur. (Your 50 samples is a start worth attention, but it's not solid. Assuming it ''can'' be as low as 1%, anyway.) | :::I'm not sure off the top of my head how rates for SOS calls work, but for weather-dependent calls like Poliwrath, who is indeed on the order of a 1% rate, it's worth noting that I easily went over 100 calls without seeing a Poliwrath. Also, 0.1% chance is way too low for even a halfway reasonable assumption. If we assume that chance isn't really chance exactly and a 1/50 chance meant you'd have to see a thing once in 50 events...even then, seeing 0 Fearow in 50 calls would only mean it's less than a 1/50 chance, or less than 2%. Of course, it is complete chance, though, so it is possible that, even though you didn't see Fearow, the real rate could still be, say, 5%. If something might be as small as 1%, you probably need ''at least'' 200 samples to fairly reasonably say it can't actually occur. (Your 50 samples is a start worth attention, but it's not solid. Assuming it ''can'' be as low as 1%, anyway.) | ||
:::Do also note that the [[SOS Battle]] page is not the only relevant page on the wiki. If you have a problem like this with the info there, it helps if you can update the location pages too. (For any called allies, the availability section on their Pokemon pages might also need updating.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC) | :::Do also note that the [[SOS Battle]] page is not the only relevant page on the wiki. If you have a problem like this with the info there, it helps if you can update the location pages too. (For any called allies, the availability section on their Pokemon pages might also need updating.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC) | ||
Ok that's complete ass tho, because who would want to sos chain for a 5-1% Fearow or Ariados, when they already appear 20% of the time on the route normally ._. [[User:Coltonandgen|Coltonandgen]] ([[User talk:Coltonandgen|talk]]) 11:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC) |
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You can't use Serebii as a source, unless you can back it up with datamine/official guidebook evidence. I'll check it out myself later, but your edits will be undone if they turn out to be false. Lanthanum (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- FYI, Lanthanum, it would be better to treat edits citing Serebii as "better safe than sorry". If you do not immediately know it's true, such an edit should be reverted. We don't want that sort of thing hanging around just because everyone's waiting to figure out "if they turn out to be false". If someone needs to revert it again because it is true and they can reliably show it somehow, then that's fine. That's better than the alternative.
- A bit more generally, just...please don't source Serebii at all for info you edit here. There's no "unless can back it up" there; if you really think Serebii shows that we have something wrong, find another source (a reliable one; and this can include experience for certain things) and only cite that. Serebii has expressed that we are not allowed to take things from their site. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Ok so I was 50 sos calls into an Ariados battle on Route 17, it called in exactly 46 Ariados, 3 Goomy, 1 Castform, and no Fearow. So I believe that your info is either A: False, B: is true, but Fearow has like a 0.1% chance of showing up, or C: You're right, but the battle was never programmed to happen, so even though it says it can call a Fearow, it'll never do so Coltonandgen (talk) 04:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure off the top of my head how rates for SOS calls work, but for weather-dependent calls like Poliwrath, who is indeed on the order of a 1% rate, it's worth noting that I easily went over 100 calls without seeing a Poliwrath. Also, 0.1% chance is way too low for even a halfway reasonable assumption. If we assume that chance isn't really chance exactly and a 1/50 chance meant you'd have to see a thing once in 50 events...even then, seeing 0 Fearow in 50 calls would only mean it's less than a 1/50 chance, or less than 2%. Of course, it is complete chance, though, so it is possible that, even though you didn't see Fearow, the real rate could still be, say, 5%. If something might be as small as 1%, you probably need at least 200 samples to fairly reasonably say it can't actually occur. (Your 50 samples is a start worth attention, but it's not solid. Assuming it can be as low as 1%, anyway.)
- Do also note that the SOS Battle page is not the only relevant page on the wiki. If you have a problem like this with the info there, it helps if you can update the location pages too. (For any called allies, the availability section on their Pokemon pages might also need updating.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Ok so I was 50 sos calls into an Ariados battle on Route 17, it called in exactly 46 Ariados, 3 Goomy, 1 Castform, and no Fearow. So I believe that your info is either A: False, B: is true, but Fearow has like a 0.1% chance of showing up, or C: You're right, but the battle was never programmed to happen, so even though it says it can call a Fearow, it'll never do so Coltonandgen (talk) 04:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok that's complete ass tho, because who would want to sos chain for a 5-1% Fearow or Ariados, when they already appear 20% of the time on the route normally ._. Coltonandgen (talk) 11:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)