Talk:Magmar (Pokémon)

Magmar in LG

Hey all, I notice a bit of a discrepancy on the location for Magmar in LG. On this page, it says that it is only found on Mt. Ember, yet on the page for Pokémon Mansion, it says that it can be found there, much like in the original games. I myself have spent days now searching on all floors of these two dungeons, all to no avail. Can anyone help me clear this up? Thanks!

Self Correction: Apparently, it was listed in the page for Mt. Ember after all. Sorry about that, changed the post to reflect that. But the page for the Pokémon Mansion still lists it as appearing in generation III, and I'd like to know if it's true or not.

Amanwithnoname 19:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

Should it be noted that in Platinum you can catch magmars a lower than the evolve Vespitomb 20:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

That is not unique to Magmar... see the triva section of the level article. --LaprasBoi 23:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Held Items HG

Why is the magmizer considered an "event only" item? I caught a Magmar in the burned tower (Heart Gold) who was holding onto one. Is it just incredibly rare and I have the best luck ever? Or did some one just make a typo?

It's just that the template dosen't have all the information. I know that some wild Magmar do hold the Magmarizer. The event section is referring to Magmar obtained from events, as opposed to saying that only event Magmar can be obtained holding them. If someone knows the rate in any gen IV games then they can either add it to the template or post it here, and someone will add it. Werdnae (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

XY Hold Item

Magmar's hold item is supposed to be Magmarizer, can any one confirm this? Trainer Yusuf (talk) 16:06, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Debut music

Can someone fact-check me on this: In Riddle Me This!, when Magmar first appears, the music that plays is the Champion Battle music from RBY. This is the first instance of hearing this music in the anime, yes or no? I blitzed through Season 1 a few months ago and this just hit me when reading through the Magmar page this evening. TwilightHylian (talk) 02:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

duckbilled dinosaurs

instead of saying its a combination of booby and ducks, wouldnt it be more accurate to say it shows features of duckbilled dinosaurs?

duckbill, five fingers, long tail, protrusion above the head similar to some duckbilled dinosaurs (hadrosaurs) namely outdated depictions of tsintaosaurus (note that magmar was designed in the 90s)

i mean... come on, it's neither a duck nor a booby

just putting this out there thanks for reading Lphits (talk) 04:21, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

on naming

ok, before anyone accuses me of talking nonsense, and making up random stuff, I'd like to clarify that I've been living in Asia in the past 9 years, speak fluent Chinese and Japanese, studied linguistics (especially Asian languages) and some marketing

i'd like to draw attention to something, sometimes English and Japanese names of pokemon sometimes have very little connection to each other or the pokemon itself

I'm not sure if we have any trustworthy info on how pokemon names are chosen, whether they're given by the designer right away or a naming team later (the letter may be seen in the case for ivysaur and it's evolutions, which probably got their names after the evolution line was completed

I'm going to list a few examples, please bear with me:

wartortle has very little to do with war or warriors except it seems a little angry, considering squirtle and Blastoise both got their names from emitting water with different pressures, it might as well have been named pumptle or shootle or something, yet it was named wartortle, perhaps for the angry look, pretty random, would make more sense if blastoise was named turtank, needless to say, not much to do with the Japanese name, except for including turtle

tyranitar: probably got it's name from it's meaniness and general resemblance to a dinosaur and has a nice ring to it, easy to remember (marketing), but, needless to say, the English name has nothing to do with bangiras (i will get back to the name bangiras later!)

jynx: the name is mostly just a reference to it's psychic typing, nothing decisive here, once again nothing to do with the Japanese name

and we finally arrived to magmar: boober, the fire spitting pokemon with a duckbill, but otherwise no connection to birds, but instead of the English word booby, the Japanese name boober may be coming from the sound (boo) fire spotters create when spitting fire, and burn

and magmar may be just a combination of magma and char

the design may have also been inspired by a flamboyant fire spitter, no seabirds here

and let's get back to bangiras, bangiras may just very well be bangiras, a random kaiju name, while most Japanese names actually have Japanese words in it, not all do not sure how the person who wrote the entry found the words, but it seems to me that they perhaps just hit up a Japanese dictionary and started to look for the syllables and picked out the ones that may relate to the pokemon, however Japanese words listed at the name origin are not frequently used (except for kirai) and so, it is not likely for a franchise for kids to use difficult words, so yes it might just be bangiras as it is, nothing less, nothing more

so even though many names do include actual words, i would advise against trying to find too many awkward words as they may be misleading, unless they're confirmed by official sources, i would suggest not to stick too much to a single explanation

I'd also suggest to pay attention to the chinese names when looking for origins of pokemon, bulbasaur and its evolutions had a frog (蛙) in its Chinese name even when it was still a mammalian reptile on Bulbapedia, until an interview with Sugimori where he said that they're actually frogs

as a side note I'd also like to mention that Scizor's Chinese name is large pincer mantis, clearly referring to it having pincers ;)

also I'm not sure if it fits here but it is also connected to magmar, however if someone feels this should be moved into another discussion page, feel free to move it there, or tell me where it fits, and I'll gladly copy my text

if you wish, take the above listed into consideration, when looking for name and design origins for pokemon

thanks for reading Lphits (talk) 10:56, 16 December 2022 (UTC)