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''This episode is notable for removing the events of the originally planned BW023 and BW024 from continuity, making the two-parter episode no longer part of canon.'' Is this technically true? We didn't know what was going to happen in them (aside from the vague "Team Rocket fights Team Plasma" and "Looker appears") and they were never referenced in any later episode, so were they ever part of the canon to begin with? As far as I understand, anime canon is {{tt|what is aired|with the most recent airing taking precedence in any contradictions}} and excludes any pre-production changes or advertising materials, so since these episodes were never aired, they were never canon at all. The most we can say is that this episode proved that TVTokyo no longer intended to rework and air BW023/024 as they had originally stated. Am I right or wrong? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | ''This episode is notable for removing the events of the originally planned BW023 and BW024 from continuity, making the two-parter episode no longer part of canon.'' Is this technically true? We didn't know what was going to happen in them (aside from the vague "Team Rocket fights Team Plasma" and "Looker appears") and they were never referenced in any later episode, so were they ever part of the canon to begin with? As far as I understand, anime canon is {{tt|what is aired|with the most recent airing taking precedence in any contradictions}} and excludes any pre-production changes or advertising materials, so since these episodes were never aired, they were never canon at all. The most we can say is that this episode proved that TVTokyo no longer intended to rework and air BW023/024 as they had originally stated. Am I right or wrong? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
:I disagree. Those episodes were considered canon at the time the Burgh gym battle episode aired, in which Matori actually did vaguely reference the episodes by saying "Giovanni is very busy right now;" anyone who knows that the episodes existed would know that Giovanni being busy relates to the aftermath of those episodes. Jessie, James and Meowth also ask Matori for their "next mission" from Matori, and being that the previous mission was the Meteonite, acknowledging that the Meteonite mission is over is also an implicit acknowledgement that those episodes' events happened. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 05:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC) | :I disagree. Those episodes were considered canon at the time the Burgh gym battle episode aired, in which Matori actually did vaguely reference the episodes by saying "Giovanni is very busy right now;" anyone who knows that the episodes existed would know that Giovanni being busy relates to the aftermath of those episodes. Jessie, James and Meowth also ask Matori for their "next mission" from Matori, and being that the previous mission was the Meteonite, acknowledging that the Meteonite mission is over is also an implicit acknowledgement that those episodes' events happened. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 05:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
== Dub Edits for this Episode == | |||
Here is the Japanese version with English subtitles for those who want to put the differences between the English and Original version in the Dub Edits:https://archive.org/details/pokemonsubbed/0771+-+BW112+-+Colress+VS+Looker!+The+Team+Plasma+Conspiracy!.mp4 | |||
Revision as of 22:50, 14 May 2024
Could someone edit the Looker link on Errors? Thanks.--~Pikalup~ (talk) 13:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- Looker's page is simply named "Looker" so the game template isn't unnecessary. I've corrected it though. --Pokemaster97 13:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Amoongus move
Can anyone identify what the move the Ammongus used when they attacked Ash's group. I can identify that it is probably a beam attack, but I'm not sure if it is SolarBeam or Hyper Beam. Nuckles123 (talk) 20:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- SolarBeam, obviously (it's even listed in the page). SolarBeam is bright yellow while Hyper Beam is white and pink.--電禅Den Zen 21:04, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- It wasn't listed in the page but thank you. (forgot the signature sorry). Nuckles123 (talk) 21:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
BW023 and 024
This episode is notable for removing the events of the originally planned BW023 and BW024 from continuity, making the two-parter episode no longer part of canon. Is this technically true? We didn't know what was going to happen in them (aside from the vague "Team Rocket fights Team Plasma" and "Looker appears") and they were never referenced in any later episode, so were they ever part of the canon to begin with? As far as I understand, anime canon is what is aired and excludes any pre-production changes or advertising materials, so since these episodes were never aired, they were never canon at all. The most we can say is that this episode proved that TVTokyo no longer intended to rework and air BW023/024 as they had originally stated. Am I right or wrong? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree. Those episodes were considered canon at the time the Burgh gym battle episode aired, in which Matori actually did vaguely reference the episodes by saying "Giovanni is very busy right now;" anyone who knows that the episodes existed would know that Giovanni being busy relates to the aftermath of those episodes. Jessie, James and Meowth also ask Matori for their "next mission" from Matori, and being that the previous mission was the Meteonite, acknowledging that the Meteonite mission is over is also an implicit acknowledgement that those episodes' events happened. --The Great Butler (talk) 05:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Dub Edits for this Episode
Here is the Japanese version with English subtitles for those who want to put the differences between the English and Original version in the Dub Edits:https://archive.org/details/pokemonsubbed/0771+-+BW112+-+Colress+VS+Looker!+The+Team+Plasma+Conspiracy!.mp4
