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Other than the fact that he has yet to shown any real sexual attraction to males. [[User:Lionheart08|Lionheart08]] 15:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC) | Other than the fact that he has yet to shown any real sexual attraction to males. [[User:Lionheart08|Lionheart08]] 15:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Lack of evidence to one side is not the same as "solid evidence" to the contrary. I could just as easily say "Mew has never been shown, in any canon, to be in a romantic relationship with a female pokemon, so it is male and gay." That is no proof what-so-ever. See the similarities between that argument and yours? Mind you, I'm not saying I feel one or the other about Ash's sexuality, and the article never claims that Ash has to be hetero, ''just that Pokéshippers think so'' - just don't use such terrible logic. --[[User:AuthorX|AuthorX]] 17:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Image:PokéShipping== | ==Image:PokéShipping== | ||
Is the image in this article really from [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]]? Because, as far as I remember, Misty is older in it, and her hair is black. She seems more like Misty from [[Pokémon Special]] to me. -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 08 May 2006 | Is the image in this article really from [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]]? Because, as far as I remember, Misty is older in it, and her hair is black. She seems more like Misty from [[Pokémon Special]] to me. -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 08 May 2006 |
Revision as of 17:37, 23 May 2007
NPOV
As previously discussed in the staff forum, this article could do with some editing to make it neutral, not balanced. In short - the evidence needs to be restated in a way that is factual, i.e. "Commonly used arguments for PokéShipping include:" - and present the interpretation as interpretation, i.e. "PokéShippers believe this implies", not "this implies". - 振霖T 04:33, 18 January 2006 (CST)
Ash's Sexual Orientation
"and furthermore, that Ash is undeniably heterosexual" What, he can't be bi?
Ja that slightly annoyed me too. - Ferret 12:45, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Opinion and conclusions shouldn't be here... I didn't like working through that section either. Of course, this whole thing is opinion and what we should be doing is documenting the opinion, rather than presenting it.
But wouldn't 'undeniably likes girls' be more accurate?
probably saying that there's "no credible evidence supporting Ash having any sexual orientation other than heterosexual" is best. Evkl 22:19, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone able to go through the japanese episodes and find the original lines for some of these hints? If we're not going to write about dub hints, single them out, and show why they're not taken as evidence by serious veteran Shippers, we shouldn't include them at all.--Archaic 10:34, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
"probably saying that there's "no credible evidence supporting Ash having any sexual orientation other than heterosexual" is best. Evkl 22:19, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
Evkl--I wouldn't say that. Remember Sammy? Ritchie? Gary?
Show me the solid evidence that As is anything but heterosexual. evkl 10:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- There is none, just as there is no solid evidence that he's not bisexual. Ketsuban 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Other than the fact that he has yet to shown any real sexual attraction to males. Lionheart08 15:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Lack of evidence to one side is not the same as "solid evidence" to the contrary. I could just as easily say "Mew has never been shown, in any canon, to be in a romantic relationship with a female pokemon, so it is male and gay." That is no proof what-so-ever. See the similarities between that argument and yours? Mind you, I'm not saying I feel one or the other about Ash's sexuality, and the article never claims that Ash has to be hetero, just that Pokéshippers think so - just don't use such terrible logic. --AuthorX 17:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Image:PokéShipping
Is the image in this article really from Electric Tale of Pikachu? Because, as far as I remember, Misty is older in it, and her hair is black. She seems more like Misty from Pokémon Special to me. -- Luke 08 May 2006