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Yes, I am aware that {{adv|Blue}} and {{adv|Green}}'s names were exchanged between the Japanese and English releases of the manga however, the Trainer's Pokémon templates never have a "dark colour" border.  For example, {{template|Brock's Pokémon}} doesn't use {{template|Rock color dark}} and {{template|Ash's Pokémon}} doesn't use [[Template:Red color|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Ash color dark<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]], therefore, {{template|Green's Pokémon}} shouldn't use [[Template:Blue color|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Green (Adventures) color dark<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]] and {{template|Blue's Pokémon}} shouldn't use [[Template:Green color|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Blue (Adventures) color dark<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]].--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 18:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I am aware that {{adv|Blue}} and {{adv|Green}}'s names were exchanged between the Japanese and English releases of the manga however, the Trainer's Pokémon templates never have a "dark colour" border.  For example, {{template|Brock's Pokémon}} doesn't use {{template|Rock color dark}} and {{template|Ash's Pokémon}} doesn't use [[Template:Red color|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Ash color dark<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]], therefore, {{template|Green's Pokémon}} shouldn't use [[Template:Blue color|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Green (Adventures) color dark<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]] and {{template|Blue's Pokémon}} shouldn't use [[Template:Green color|<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Blue (Adventures) color dark<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>]].--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 18:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
== English Names ==
So what if on March 6th I go on and edit the names.  March 6th is the release date (but of course you know that) then will it be OK? Also, I have no edits to make here since its really good already and I want to edit my Userpage, what do you suggest I do? [[User:NitroBlaster96|NitroBlaster96]] 04:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 04:47, 22 February 2011

Reminder

Hi Ataro. Just a reminder that you don't have to stoop to other people's levels if they are insulting you. Don't take the bait, don't reply and report them to a staff member. Even if they seem like they're being a moron, it's not always best to call them out on it... because their moronity continues. *insert Code of Conduct warning here* :D —darklordtrom 07:46, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes ma'am! Ataro 07:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
If we're being super-formal, then that would be sir ;) —darklordtrom 07:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Ataro. You said that there's no chance that Dent's Ishizumai has Broken Armor. Did you watch the episode where Dent captured it? It did use it's ability this ability.

Greets Mimey.

Talk page comment deletion

If you're going to revert someone for this, please warn them with {{subst:TPCD}} in the same edit. Thanks. —darklordtrom 20:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

help.

HELP!!!! I used an AR code to walk OUT of Amity Square WITH a pokemon (shroomish) traveling with me in Diamond. I accidentally saved. Does ANYONE have an AR code to remove a partner walking with you?!?! I cant fly or surf! And I have a hard time catching anything! I cant use my fishin rod either! And Dont go on about how cheating is wrong. I was trying to research DPBox and Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur. I did, however, come to one conclusion: Its the SAME POKEMON. When it faints, the entire thing is seen. So... can you help?????

Small Question

Hey Ataro. Small question. So, when Raikou fires the electric attack, Falkner says its Spark, but when he fires it again and it collides with Entei's Fire Blast, he says it's Thunder. Can you tell me which one it is? Littlmiget123 21:00, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

oh crap, I made a mistake, the attacks are so similar I mistook one for the other...Ataro 21:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, he says at first it's spark, so I posted it as Spark. But then he says it's Thunder, so now I'm confused. Any idea? Littlmiget123 21:10, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Ok, here's the deal I just read the RAW and it is in fact Spark (they even use the quotes for it) and the second move is Thunder Ataro 21:14, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
So it's two different attacks then...? Okay then, I'll probably move everything from Spark to Thunder (and add your picture as well) since the Spark attack wasn't seen. Sound good? Littlmiget123 21:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
nah, I changed the Thunder image to it's correct move...I'll probably use an image from the Emerald saga for thunder instead. Keep the pic Ataro 21:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Warning users

Next time, make sure to leave a message on their talk page after the first offense, rather than hoping they're watching the RC and talking to them through edit summaries. New users usually don't know the ways of the wiki and may think that their edit is just randomly disappearing (or something), so if they're in the wrong you've got to let them know. —darklordtrom 20:49, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Signing

If you are going to jump at users who have been here less than an hour, please at least do things properly yourself. Putting your signature on a new line screws up the indents and is generally frowned upon. Also, please try to be more polite and kind with new users. They may not have even had a chance to read the policy pages yet, and your comments come off as rude and demanding - not the thing that is likely to make new users think highly of Bulbapedia. In short, take a deep breath, calm down and play nice, especially with new users. Thanks. Werdnae (talk) 20:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Additionally, if the re-signing is within the next few minutes (or even on the same minute... :/), it's not a big deal. It's when they add it much later, and when people can get confused, that it becomes an issue. Yes, there are rules for a reason. But they need to be applied independently to each situation. —darklordtrom 20:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know...

It actually is a bird. —darklordtrom 04:15, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Main characters

Are Bel/Cheren with a Wally role or the role as the other Dex Holders? --CoolPikachu! 19:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

They were personally given Starter Pokemon Ataro 20:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Hm... Alright, thanks. --CoolPikachu! 20:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Passive aggressive behavior

You have been told about this before, but please drop the attitude/anger and stop attacking every single user that doesn't get things right the first time. Your most recent edit summary was uncalled for and just really unnecessary. You could have easily placed the image elsewhere. We don't want to scare away potential editors if they see people like you losing their cool over small edits. Keep that in mind. Thanks. Jellotalk 23:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

info on image you gave me

I see your point about Daikenki being able to stand on it's hind legs. I stand corrected. Do you think you could give me the information about that photo? (If you don't know what I'm talking about then look at the bottom of my talk page.) You said it is official. It would be nice to know how it is official. Things like where that image came from.--Alex726(talk) 22:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

It's a poster for the game Ataro 22:55, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you--Alex726(talk) 00:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Coco?

So, I was reading PS211, and it shows a flashback with Norman and Ruby's mom talking over his contest battles. In the flashback, it goes to a panel showing a young Ruby in his room, sleeping with a Skitty (Coco), and just a Skitty. Does that mean that Coco would be Ruby's starter Pokemon? Littlmiget123 20:19, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Nah..In a later chapter an even younger Ruby is seen sending out Nana, Coco, and Ruru at one point. In fact I remember something about all three being given to him by his father, technically all of them are his starters Ataro 20:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, okay then. ^^ I just wasn't sure, and I just don't like the fact that he has three starters XD. Thanks for answering my question. Littlmiget123 20:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Exbo's Page

Firstly, pardon my rudeness, but since when was it ever a rule that jpg images couldn't be uploaded into the database? It's a perfectly fine (not to mention permitted) image format, so there's no reason to undo, much less delete the image unless you want to hear people seriously bicker.

Then, check how Exbo fires a large stream of fire from the flame lit on his shoulder when Aibo supports it with Gold's cue, and then look when he performs Blast burn later to destroy the Kyogre monster. Same stance, same effect, and even Guile states that the attack's firepower was like nothing he'd seen. It's a clearly cognate case with his future usages of the technique, including in the HGSS arc. An attack doesn't have to be flat-out shouted for us to know what it is (that's like saying that because Red didn't physically order a Solarbeam against Zapmolcuno, it was just a standard attack >_>).

So, yeah. Any real reasoning behind that last undoing? Kaboomustdie 01:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not that jpgs can't be uploaded, it's that pngs are the preferred ones, and we already had a png image on the page. And about Exbo's attack, well think about it for a sec, Gold had been training during that time, plus Aibo powered it up with the pole cue. So it was more of a powered up flamethrower, besides, they wouldn't reveal the attack early would they? Ataro 02:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

The only time that we saw two attacks look the same (besides Zuzu and Silver's Feraligatr, who just fire their water attacks from their mouths) was Green's "Blasty" firing off its Hydro cannon from the shoulder cannons only in the Emerald chapter due to an oversight. I highly doubt that Kusaka would have Exbo's Blast burn and Flamethrower look exactly the same if he planned to introduce them both in the exact same chapter (remember, Exbo never launched a Flamethrower in the GSC chapter), not to mention that we have Gold and Silver fire off their ultimate attacks in the first damn round in the HGSS arc anyway. Plus, plenty of higher-grade attacks debut before their weaker counterparts. For example, Saur used Solarbeam against the Machoke before he used Razor leaf (ane even Leech seed), Blasty was seen using Hydro pump long before it used Water gun or Bubble, and in volume 8, Totodile used Slash before it used basic attacks like Scratch, Zuzu used Earthquake before it used Mud shot, etc.

Then, back to the point about few attacks looking the same, even Exbo's Flame Wheel and Ember attacks looked distinctly different (despite their powers not differing that much), so why would either Kusaka or Yamamoto make two radically different attacks look the same unless they wanted to add in a crapload of confusion? o_0

So, yeah. Something to think about... Kaboomustdie 02:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I've yet to see you provide any convincing arguments from you (let alone one that validates Kusaka being on high enough to have two attacks looking exactly the same debut within 4 rounds of each other), and I see no reason you should have any reason to argue when I go so kind as to upload the image in your "right" format, so I'll take it as a cue to resume editing in peace (considering you haven't added stuff here in days). Feel free to prove me wrong if you can here, but if you undo other people's contributions on the basis of your sole, undersupported opinion we might have some problems. Kaboomustdie 12:17, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Not the point?!

What do you mean not the point? that section was about Raticate dying, and I posted things that were clearly pertinent to that section in an effort to prove why it was SPECULATION. Clearly you're wrong. What's worse is if I undo your little undo, I'll get banned for starting an edit war while that speculation stays there and you look like you were doing nothing wrong. Having the idea of raticate dying is like having the Cubone-Kangaskhan theory on the related pages. I'm beginning to think I'm being unjustly targeted on this wiki for all of my edits. In A Manica 21:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

For one thing the discussion was more than 6 months old and your not allowed to add to a discussion more than 6 months old. Secondly your launguage was very inapropiate. Cussing is not tolerated here. I'm not surprised he deleted it. --Pokemaster97 21:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Really? I was told there was no reason to add to a discussion over 6 months old unless there was GOOD REASON to revitalize it, which there was. Now you wanna say that rule isn't the case? Hypocrites...In A Manica 21:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Please just calm down. Can you please explain the good reason for it to be revitalized? Instead of quote "Not giving a rats ***" --Pokemaster97 22:00, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Did you even read what I had posted or just stop because you saw rat's *** at the bottom? trainer-died-creepypasta.jpg there. Because that's where that idea started (on 4chan I believe), and I don't know how to do any monkey tricks with the link. The trivia in the pokemon tower article is speculation, yet people want it to stay apparently. In A Manica 22:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
There the trivia is removed let's drop the subject now. --Pokemaster97 22:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes that was what I was going to say. I was right, yet accused of being in the wrong. Done and done. fine. In A Manica 22:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
This is probaly stupid to admit but the story about that Raticate made me shed a tear, Anyway Mr. Manica, be careful with your language; it's dangerous breaking rules, on an Admin's page no less Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 22:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
All I can say is, CoC guys, CoC. This whole discussion was handled in a very nasty way. Please TRY to be civil next time. And please, no blame games either. Jellotalk 22:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I just feel like I'm being targeted on here, so I kinda got fed up with it. In A Manica 22:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you should consider why you're being 'targeted'. Some of your discussions are just not relevant. Don't take it personally. Jellotalk 22:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Yet some are and most likely will be, and are still being treated like they aren't. This was one such case. So yea, I'm going to be taking it personally.In A Manica 22:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Mr.Manica, can I call you 'In a', if there are users in particular you feel are targeting you, you should report them to an admin, however I must say, you should try to make friends on here the same way you do in real life Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
You can call me 'In a' if you want, or Joe since that's my real name, or Monkey because primates are some of my favorite animals and I act like one and climb trees like one. Whatever you fancy. But yea I know that I need to make friends on wikis like I do in real life. It's hard, but can be done. In A Manica 23:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Well Joe, I'm a friend of yours on Bulbapedia :) Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Yay! I made a friend on bulbapedia! =P In A Manica 00:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
That's all fine and dandy. Now can you guys please stop spamming my talk page? -__- Ataro 00:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

ATARO ! You know a thing or two, your help may be required at the bottom of my talk page Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, problem solved, sorry about the spamming, I'll be quiet now Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Welcome

Thanks, will keep it in mind for the future. Frozen Fennec 18:22, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that Ataro, I didn't know you had replaced it already, I thought someone had just copy and pasted your welcome. Jellotalk 18:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Raikou usertag

Ah, I see. It's hard to tell honestly. It's not like user page tags are put anywhere. :/ I'll put mine up for deletion then. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

English episode titles

You need to italicize them. ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]'' --ケンジガール 05:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes Ma'am Ataro 05:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping me even though it was my first time, but anyway a question I have is It is okay to leave the parts like (I) this instead of ((Part 1)). The only reason is because this is how (Part 1) VIZ presented this in their copies which I am overlooking mine right now. -Tyler53841 01:41, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Great

You're the best EVER! User: Keitho123

Rayquaza's attack

Hey Ataro, me again. On chapter 264, I have a question. In the flashback, Rayquaza's forehead starts to glow and it fires multiple orbs of energy from it at Norman and Professor Birch. I have no idea what attack this is, but I want to say Ancientpower? What are your thoughts? Littlmiget123 20:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking, maybe Outrage? Ataro 20:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Hm, alright then. I'll list it as Outrage. Thank you. Littlmiget123 20:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Agility

Why'd you get rid of Ninjask's entry in the Agility manga section? Littlmiget123 18:04, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I checked the raws. It's actually Speed Boost. Just another case of Chaung fail...speaking of which, you know how Walo used "water gun"? It's actually supposed to be Water Spout Ataro 18:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, okay then. I'll add it as Speed Boost once I get out of school. Also, I didn't add Walo for anything other than surf. I just presumed that when it was blowing water from its blowhole that it was just doing it because that's what whales do? XD Littlmiget123 18:16, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Also, before I do that, can I ask you something? (I hope you don't mind me bombarding you with all these questions! I feel so bad doing it...) In PS286, the Deoxys clones fire this beam-like attack from their eyes at Green, but she uses her Ditto to block. Is this an attack? It kinda reminds me of Psybeam, but Deoxys can't learn Psybeam. Littlmiget123 20:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, not sure actually...they're mindless clones..not the real one...I guess it's just a power they can use and not a move Ataro 20:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Great images!

I love how you have uploaded images of different Pokémon using different moves. Now as you've finished, I'd like to make following requests:

  • Both pics in Thunderbolt's template are grainy. Could you upload better ones?
    • It would be nice if you uploaded a picture of Lt. Surge's Raichu using the move, so I could add a pic to the move article's move template.
  • Could you upload a pic of Red's Poli using Focus Punch?

Thank you already in beforehand. ^^ --FinnishPokéFan92 13:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I forgot that the pic of Sabrina's Kadabra using Psybeam in the manga also has low quality. Could you fix it too? --FinnishPokéFan92 14:09, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Also DragonBreath pic has low quality. Sorry if I'm making you buzy, but I hope you can do it. --FinnishPokéFan92 11:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Um, hello, do you hear me? --FinnishPokéFan92 18:23, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Sorry, I'm kinda doing Pokemon 7 (then Electric Tale of Pikachu) right now. But once I'm done (hopefully by today) I'll get right on those Ataro 18:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll be waiting. :-) --FinnishPokéFan92 07:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Trainer's Pokémon templates

Yes, I am aware that Blue and Green's names were exchanged between the Japanese and English releases of the manga however, the Trainer's Pokémon templates never have a "dark colour" border. For example, {{Brock's Pokémon}} doesn't use {{Rock color dark}} and {{Ash's Pokémon}} doesn't use {{Ash color dark}}, therefore, {{Green's Pokémon}} shouldn't use {{Green (Adventures) color dark}} and {{Blue's Pokémon}} shouldn't use {{Blue (Adventures) color dark}}.--MisterE13 18:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

English Names

So what if on March 6th I go on and edit the names. March 6th is the release date (but of course you know that) then will it be OK? Also, I have no edits to make here since its really good already and I want to edit my Userpage, what do you suggest I do? NitroBlaster96 04:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)