Talk:M14

It's BLACK hero

Stop this politically correct bullcrap. It's black, not dark. Clearly. --Maxim 19:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Why can't it be dark? —♥ Jello^talk 21:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Dark sounds cooler. TTEchidna 03:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make more sense to use black? You know... Black & White...? --ケンジのガール 07:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Cooler or not, it's not very correct. And Kenji's got a point here. --Maxim 15:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

They used the term kuroki, not kuroi (which is specifically black-colored). It's intended to be a metaphor, I guess. - Taylor 16:04, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I do agree on this. It should be black, it's not that I'm Japanese but I tried to get every single translation of kuroki and I got "Black" as a conclusion. So, it should be Black but I don't want to move the article without an admin's confirmation. So, What do you say? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 16:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The article won't be moved if we decide on black. But really. Obviously the "Dark Hero" is Zekrom, the Deep-Black Pokémon. Hence, it should be Black Hero. --ケンジのガール 06:15, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

So is it a case of that the title can be translated multiple ways? I'm just after finishing watching BW011 by the #blackandwhitesubs fansub group, and they translated the movie title in the preview as Dark Hero... TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 07:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Under the influence of Serebii or Bulbapedia (or other big fansite). Don't really trust fans that much, even fansub groups often take informations from major Pokémon websites and communities. --Maxim 09:24, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Release Date

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According to Corocoro the release date is July 16.RBK 01:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Well thanks whoever added it.RBK 01:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Two M14 Pages?

Shouldn't there be two Movie 14 Pages? I'm pretty sure Victini & The White Hero- Reshiram is confirmed, seeing as how CoroCoro is an official source. Regardless, making two pages would make sense, even if the two movies are conjoined in some way.Torpoleon 21:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

It's not confirmed. They are most likely the same movie. --ケンジのガール 21:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I think we can few days more for the confirmation, since the official site already has a count down set. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 23:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, PokéBeach just added CoroCoro Scans. Has there not been any change here because these are leaks and CoroCoro hasn't officially been released in Japan yet? Also, since information about the Victini Download is shown on the M14 Page, CoroCoro also said that Victini holds the Fire Jewel, is inside a Cherish Ball and has a Wish Ribbon. As with before, it knows V-Generate as well. Just thought I'd bring that up as well.Torpoleon 01:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Adding on to what others have said, lets compile the evidence:

• Two seperate posters pictured in Corocoro
• Corocoro states there will be two "versions" of the movie

I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!

Pretty much confirmed now. - Taylor 04:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

They're probably two versions of the same movie, so it doesn't technically need two different pages. J-J-M 15:12, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Well we can rename this to M14/M15...but I'll be confusing.Duo2nd 02:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Zekrom and Reshiram Talks

Seen in the new teaser trailer of this movie, both Reshiram and Zekrom will talk! And both are confirmed to be male! :D Link to teaser trailer on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqTOGAt-wrg -- Aura24 15:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Movie Takes Place...When?

I think everyone's thought of this at one point or another. When DOES this film (or these films, whatever) take place? According to the original TV schedule, it would have been released between BW039 and BW040, had the two-part Rocket-dan vs Plasma-dan episode not been skipped. NOW they will be released between BW041 and BW042--right smack-dab in a mini-arc. What do you guys think? And should we make a mention of this in the article? --Long Live Pokémon! --Skulblaka Shurtugal 18:22, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

When it is release we will find out based on what Pokémon the main characters have with them. And yes, it will be mentioned just like Movie 13. --HoennMaster 13:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

well, we can safely assume that it takes place before the 4th gym battle. -Pokeant 10:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

How so, before the 4th gym? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

This discussion will have no conclusion till the movie is released. The same problem was with M13, the movie aired during the league that's why we don't have an exact answer for that one either. We can't just assume anything either. So, can we please just wait? Thank you. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 15:24, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Differences... not so much?

It looks like Dread Grangil has both Reuniclus and Gothitelle all along in both movies. Look at this scan, you can see him in the snow town with Reuniclus and in the desert with Gothitelle, the opposite of what we knew. It seems that Shade and Aude appear in both movies too, so I think these two movies might just be two perspectives of the exact same story, not even two retellings of a similar story. --The Great Butler 06:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Canon?

So because the movies are both there and considered canon, which one has the real events that would actually happen in the Pokémon continuity? Peanut64

Movies are almost never considered canon. Characters almost never recollect anything from movies except maybe in later movies (M12.) Movies typically are made for: 1. Legendary eye candy, 2. Money. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 20:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

That isnt true (I mean the canon bit, obviously their sole existance is to make lots of cash). Movies are no different to filler episodes, which are considered canon. Until Reshiram, Zekrom or Victini appear in an episode, its too early to know for certain which one is canon. For all we know, they could bring out a third version. XVuvuzela2010X 16:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I would like to point out that The Rise of Darkrai is confirmed canon due to the Lunar Wing Dawn buys in it showing up in a regular episode (but is the only movie which is confirmed). --SnorlaxMonster 07:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

how could that be, because in the sinnoh league dawn did not even know who Darkrai was.--Rise My Yanmegas 19:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

She forgot? She also saw one in DP104 remember. (Which is the one in which the Lunar Wing appeared). Werdnae (talk) 22:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

And other movies have evidence to say they are cannon, aswell as M10, they are just feature-length fillers... Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 02:17, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

10 being canon also makes 11 and 12 canon because of the three being a trilogy. 8 is canon because of Aura being referenced repeatedly. 7 was canonized in the Battle Frontier Deoxys special. You could say 9 was canonized by Jack Walker appearing in Spurt!. 6 got retroactively canonized by 8 when Butler and Diane appeared in the credits of the latter. Just for reference, and that's not even all of them. --The Great Butler 02:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

And M02 is canon since they mention the Lugia from Shamouti Island in the Whirl Islands episodes. XVuvuzela2010X 02:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Season changers

Could somone confirm which forms of Deerling and Sawsbuck actualy appeared, because I definatly saw both of them in summer form in the trailers Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 02:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Summer and Autumn. XVuvuzela2010X 02:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

An image of Autumn formXVuvuzela2010X 02:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

A piece of trivia

I think it should be noted that this movie, counting both versions, far and away tops M01 and M10 as the movie with the most debuting Pokémon in the series. Counting both versions, a total of 34 new Pokémon debut here. --The Great Butler 03:30, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Synopsis?

i'm going to write a Synopsis for this movie, any objections?Emeraldben 11:39, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Why would anyone object? Please do. --SnorlaxMonster 13:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it Ben don't worry but I've only watched Black Hero, shall I write at the end that it was a synopsis of the Black hero? Prinben 11:06, 31 August 2011 (UTC)