Talk:Quash (move)

Is it notable that no Gen V pokemon learn it, despite it being introduced in the fifth generation?--RegiRuler 15:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

So, this move is learned only by 18 Pokémon and it's kind of obvious that it's intended to be learned mainly by certain kind of non-Dark-type Pokémon. 12 (two thirds) of the Pokémon that learn the move have inarguably a Japanese name that contains a royal title; and if we exclude Mew (who can every TM move), the percentage becomes even higher. In my opinion it's something that can't be just ignored. Of course we can leave the "other higher status" part out, because for example Aggron (Bossgodora) and Serperior (Jalorda) cannot learn Quash.--電禅Den Zen 10:10, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I completely agree with Den Zen here. It's definitely worth noting for the reasons stated. BNK^Talk 10:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

To add, the move itself involves the user administering priority over its opponent. Mew, as Denn Zen stated, can learn every TM, and Murkrow is the evolutionary relative of Honchkrow. Plus, its Pokedex states that it is "feared and loathed by many". BNK^Talk 10:34, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I don't find it all that notable. It's almost like sprite trivia and you can simply see for yourself just by looking at the table. 27 out of the 39 Pokémon that learn Peck are based on birds but we're not going to point that out either. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 10:41, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

That's because it's obvious (very blatantly if I may add) that 29 out of the 39 Pokemon that learn Peck are based on birds. Since we're basing edits off what we personally think, I personally think no one can safely infer that the Pokemon that learn quash with royal/legendary/whatever status learn the move via TM because of their said status without being assured by the trivia. BNK^Talk 10:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Magikarp (Koiking) and Seaking can't learn the move. By excluding Aggron's "boss", you're discounting Honchkrow, the Big Boss Pokémon, which can. I'm sorry, but I just think using the name basis is too subjective. Werdnae (talk) 10:47, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

The word Quash means to reject or suppress something, and is usually done by someone of a high authority. So in this case it would also be considered obvious that the ones who learn it could be considered "high status" Pokémon. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 10:51, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Quash isn't a very commonplace verb; most people looking at the page are as unknowing of the word's meaning as they are when they look at Barrage unless they refer to a dictionary, when really they could read the trivia, which, along with noting that Pokemon that learn the move have higher or royal status, could state the definition in relation to said fact. And Seaking and Serperior are weird cases I guess, I mean that too could be noted in the trivia just as it is noted when a Pokemon whose Pokedex implies it uses some kind of move actually can't learn the move that is implied (take Octillery and Hydro Pump for example). BNK^Talk 10:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm just noting that Cosmic Power, Spore, Coil, Butterfly Dance, Cotton Guard and several other articles have similar yet more obvious trivia. So we should either remove those trivias or add this one (in some form).--電禅Den Zen 11:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Further noting that Magikarp couldn't learn this anyway even if the programmers wanted it to, since it /can't/ learn any TMs, so it's naturally excluded because Quash will not be the exception. Seaking doesn't count because its Japanese name does not have the English form of 'king' in it, unlike Yadoking, Kekking, Kingdra, etc. Empoleon does count because 'emperor' is the royal equivalent to 'king'. Serperior doesn't count because 'lord' is not strictly a king/queen title and can apply to lower forms of authority than the absolute highest. Aggron doesn't either, because unlike Honchkrow, whose species gives it definitive authority as the only seemingly unorthodox one of the non-legendary pokémon, Aggron's species has nothing to do with authority, and again, 'boss' does not strictly belong to the absolute highest authority when /your/ boss more times than not will have his own boss, thus not making the word 'boss' an exclusive title, just like 'lord'. Honchkrow's species indicates it IS the absolute authority, since no one is the boss of the Don (Dongkarasu) in a mafia: it's the top dog, and the combination of purposefully-mafia!Don-affix+relevant species name+dark type pretty much indicates why it's here, and likely why it's the only one with Murkrow who can learn it via level-up. So it's not about 'high authority'; it's about the 'highest authority'. *two cents; not really arguing for or against* This is where a name origin for some moves would be nice, though. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 12:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I'd say that's two cents for the argument that the information proposed by Denn Zenn and I belongs, lol. BNK^Talk 12:52, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but I don't care if the point sticks. It was more like why Quash involves these pogeys, and not so much if the trivia should stay. But it's interesting though. Still think we should have an origin header; it would negate the need for the trivia in the first place if the definition of the name was worded similarly to how Jo defines it. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 14:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Alright, cool. BNK^Talk 03:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I vote that the information proposed be placed on the article. BNK^Talk 21:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)