Appendix talk:F.E.A.R.

Well I did some major revisions to the article - I'm hoping someone will give me the OK to remove the cleanup tag. Kochdude388 04:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

According to Marriland's F.A.Q. on the video, "F.E.A.R." also stands for "F@#king Evil Annoying Rodent". If someone could figure out a family-friendly way of saying that on the main article, I think it's a major part of the original name... -- Jioruji Derako.> 13:04, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

How about Freaky Evil Annoying Rodent? MacGyver 16:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

How does the Marrilanad vid apply to the article? I know he uses FEAR in that vid, but still... Its like advertising for Marriladnd. Which isn't encyclopedic.

Marriland is/was a big factor on the popularity of the archetype, I believe. It's not just a random link to some guy using F.E.A.R., it's a link to the most popular video of all time that just happens to use F.E.A.R. in it. Advertising for a guy isn't Wiki-like, true; but giving at least one source for a particular bit of knowledge is. I personally don't see the link as much of an "advertisement" in the first place... -- Jioruji Derako.> 04:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

It's there because that is the battle that made F.E.A.R famous. --Shiny Noctowl ---Find the secret page!--- 12:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Its advertising for him, they could make a list of noteable trainers with FEAR, but it is pointing out one person. I can't really explain it that well.

Where do you get a Focus Slash? --Ryguy 8:28, 28 August 2007 (EST)

Focus Sash? I believe you can trade battle points for it up by the Battle Tower in D/P. -- Jioruji Derako.> 02:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Route 221, show a guy in a house a Pokémon the level of the 1 he wants to see. Next day, do the same thing. The third day, do it again. The frst time, you'll get a Black Belt. The second time, another Belt that powers up Super Effective attacks, I can't remember what it's called. Third time, Focus Sash. - Jonah 22:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

oh, thanks Ryguy

The belt that powers up super-effective attacks is the Expert Belt. --Shiny Noctowl Find the secret page! ♪The oboe is the best instrument ever!♪ 00:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Pursuit

Wouldn't a rattata with Focus Sash, Endeavor, Pursuit, Quick Attack counteract switching out... obviously this is very risky but the opponent would then not know what to do whether to switch out or not...--Wowy 07:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

But then how do you guess if they'll switch out or stay? If they stay and you use Pursuit, then they'll hit first and kill you. If they switch out and you use Quick Attack, at least now you can still switch out and save yourself. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

That's why it's risky but most people would know about the Quick Attack not the pursuit and will rather switch out than attack first...--Wowy 11:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Or they could counter with...another first strike move. Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links13:25 5 Sep 2008

Best option is to just use a non-damage-dealing move at first (Swords Dance, Recover, whatever), and just let the F.E.A.R. sit there. Or if the Pokémon has Toxic, that's another not-quite-instant-kill.

Either way, it's super-easy to counter a F.E.A.R. Pokémon. It comes down to luck no matter what, normally. Pursuit could be useful, if you're against someone who knows a little about the F.E.A.R. strategy, but doesn't have a good counter. Quick Attack will generally be more useful, seeing as F.E.A.R. will work best against a player who doesn't see it coming (and thus, might not think to switch out). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I call it: S.A.F.E.!

Well, the article said that Starly can be used also. I tried it, and used it as well! I call it "SAFE"! Well, it means [S]tarly, Quick[A]ttack, [F]ocus Sash and [E]ndeavor! Palkia38 09:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It's frequently known as F.E.A.R., though. I haven't heard S.A.F.E. yet.. ◄Kevzo8► 11:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Not enough info

This article is not very informative about what exactly makes up a F.E.A.R. Pokémon... maybe its just me not paying enough attention. KPF 20:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

The "how to use FEAR" section pretty much sums the whole thing up; all in all, it's a fairly simple battle plan. It only works with a few moves (Focus Sash as the item, Endeavor and an increased-priority move, and you're set). Any more info would probably be too much info. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The MOS discourages the use of 'you' as BP isn't a game guide. This article is full of the word 'you' as, it essentially is a game guide. Do we try and fix this? — THE TROM — 05:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Might as well. Let me look at it. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

FEAR Cleffa?

Should something be said about FEAR Cleffa, which works a different way? I think it was someone at Smogon who invented it.

It is a Magic Guard Cleffa. Hail or Sandstorm has to be in effect. The Cleffa uses Endeavor, to take the opponent to very low health. Then the opponent is killed by the weather. This is not countered by priority moves, Stealth Rock, Spikes, Poison Status, Burn, Weather, or by not attacking. It is stopped by Ghosts, and it will not kill pokémon that are immune to the weather (but it will still bring them down to low health).

Is this a kind of FEAR? Should it be put in the article? Graut 12:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be good to put into the article under another section, like "Alternate Strategies" or something. Yeah, would be a good idea.--Clarky13 12:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, that's a good idea. However, it can't be done without another Pokémon using Hail or Sandstorm. That means it doesn't meet the criteria to be in this article, I guess. --☆Kevzo8 12:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... That is true. I didn't catch on with that one. --Clarky13 13:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No no no no

Why does this have its own page? just merge it with the article about the Metagame strategy.User:DCM 18:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Smeargle?

How can Smeargle get this at level 1? Doesn't it need two Sketches, and therefore need to be at level 11? The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 11:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Move relearner. — THE TROM — 11:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Cure the move relearner, causing me to make a fool of myself, and not giving me the money he owes me. The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 11:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Is This Page Necessary?

Really.

1. As you people love to say, Wikis aren't strategy guides. 2. As a competitive player, I can say that the intro to the second section is highly inaccurate. No one uses F.E.A.R. since it's painfully easy to counter (mostly because every team has a Stealth Rocker and Scizor's everywhere, but there are others). So, if it stays, someone needs to at least revise that section.

And sorry about the "Testing" bit. >_> MagicBarrier 01:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Hence the title, "Appendix." I don't like it either, but here we are. ^ht14 01:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Double Hitting Attack

I've never been much for online battles, but wouldn't a double hitting attack take up the focus sash on the first hit and kill the Rattata on the second? Not 100 percent sure, could someone confirm it so I could add it? Thanks. It would make sense, but don't want to put incorrect info on the wiki. - unsigned comment from Omega1000 (talk • contribs)

Sturdy

So, now Sturdy can replace Focus Sash. While Shell Bell can be used to restore health in the same time to use this strategy more than once. To finish off the opponent, again, priority move can be used (like Donphan's Ice Shard) or Sandstorm can do the job with, for example, Aron. Requesting an update, since I don't think my knowledge of english is good enough.--ЫъГЬ 09:35, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, I thought you couldn't get a shell bell in gen V? --LZMan 20:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

No, you can get one in Driftveil City. — ∀ЫъГѣ ∃Talk page 07:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

K, then maybe the held items page should be changed to say that. Right now it doesn't have anything listed.--LZMan 16:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Gen V

Just updated the article with reference to Sturdy and Gen 5's changes. I think they're relevant. Just wondering if it was worth mentioning Sturdy Shedinja (multi-battles only)? A combination of Worry Seed and Skill Swap makes damn near impossible to kill Shedinja - with Shadow Sneak and the ability to use Mimic on Endeavor, you have a prime FEAR user on your hands. - unsigned comment from N-Denizen (talk • contribs)

Non-roaming Legendaries

Wouldn't this strategy (or, at least, part of this strategy) work really well on non-roaming Legendaries? Think about it. Get your party set up just before you know you are going to meet a Legendary just waiting for you to catch him. Toss out your FEAR pokemon (whatever it is). They attack and, with Endeavor, boom! A Legendary with HP at 1 just waiting to be caught with a pokeball (or at least, a few pokeballs). Just don't finish with Quick Attack, have another pokemon hit him with a status ailment, toss some pokeballs, and now you have a new Legendary for your collection. -edit- Guess I should have scrolled all the way down the page before I said this. Never saw that my idea was on there but AFTER the External Links section. It's just tucked in at the bottom. Terraferme 10:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Definetly it shouldn't be there. You can improve that section, it's not exactly encyclopedian and move it upwards doing so. Also there is no need to use Endure (it's not guaranteed that legendarie will use damaging move after all), in-game you can start a battle with 1hp left (by poisoning your pokemon for example), use Endeavour and let the first pokemon die, this way you'll waste only one turn. Something with Scrappy and good speed, say Kangaskhan (you can even give it Choice Scarf) would be perfect for this. --ЫъГЬ 11:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Lv.1 Archen with Endeavor?

The list says that Archen can use F.E.A.R. at level 1, but as far as I'm aware it only learns Endeavor at level 38. Is the list correct or is this an error?

If you breed two Pokémon and they both know a move the offspring would get by leveling up, the offspring is born with that move, which would indeed allow a level 1 Archen to have Endeavor. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 00:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Kangaskhan's note

In the notes for Kangaskhan, it reads that if the Pokémon has Scrappy, it won't be countered by Ghost-types. However, the only move listed for Kangaskhan's priority attack is Sucker Punch, a Dark-type move that would hit Ghost-types regardless of Kangaskhan's ability. Is this an error with the notes, or is there something in Kangaskhan's moveset that's missing? --RiverAura 19:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

It means that Kangaskhan can use Endeavor against Ghost-type Pokémon.--電禅Den Zen 19:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Note at top of page?

Should there be a note at top of the page saying "Not to be confused with F.E.A.R., the FPS"? Chaossy (talk) 19:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)