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:There's enough information to know that it's based on France, the shape of the region is the same shape as France, the tower in Lumiose City that's based off the Eiffel Tower, and the stones where the Carnac Stones should be, as well as the fact that Ken Sugimori had visited France recently. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 00:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC) | :There's enough information to know that it's based on France, the shape of the region is the same shape as France, the tower in Lumiose City that's based off the Eiffel Tower, and the stones where the Carnac Stones should be, as well as the fact that Ken Sugimori had visited France recently. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 00:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC) | ||
::There's enough information to ''''suggest'''' it is based on France, there is not enough to ''''know''''. What you're doing is speculating, which is clearly forbidden above. Besides, if the article is going to say so, can it not do so in a more aproprate, lest difinate way: e.g. "Parts are based on France", or "it is likley based off France". Because the way it's written currently is missleading, as it suggests that we 'know' for a fact that the entire is based off France, rather than it is assumed. Do you have a source that actually says it's based on France? No? Then it's nothing more than speculation. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | ::There's enough information to ''''suggest'''' it is based on France, there is not enough to ''''know''''. What you're doing is speculating, which is clearly forbidden above. Besides, if the article is going to say so, can it not do so in a more aproprate, lest difinate way: e.g. "Parts are based on France", or "it is likley based off France". Because the way it's written currently is missleading, as it suggests that we 'know' for a fact that the entire is based off France, rather than it is assumed. Do you have a source that actually says it's based on France? No? Then it's nothing more than speculation. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Just noticed the header on the article which says ''"Please be cautious when adding information to this article, as '''rumors and speculation''' often get '''confused with fact'''; avoid any information on this subject which is not confirmed by '''reliable sources'''"''. It's pure speculation that you're tring to pass off as fact. There is no 'reliable source', thus it should not be in the article. Who exactly are these rules for if, people are so quick to disregard them so blatently? [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 00:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Name Origin == | == Name Origin == | ||
Kalos means "good" and "beautiful" in Greek. That goes with the main theme of the games, beauty. [[User:Phoenix-f-|Phoenix-f-]] ([[User talk:Phoenix-f-|talk]]) 17:00, 14 June 2013 (UTC) | Kalos means "good" and "beautiful" in Greek. That goes with the main theme of the games, beauty. [[User:Phoenix-f-|Phoenix-f-]] ([[User talk:Phoenix-f-|talk]]) 17:00, 14 June 2013 (UTC) |
Revision as of 00:12, 16 June 2013
Inspiration from France
I had the thought that, since the largest city in Karosu, Miare City is most likely based on Paris, the entire region of Karosu could be based on France. I started looking at the shape of France and I noticed it has a somewhat similar shape to Karosu. France has 5 major corners (arguably 6 if you want to count the southernmost corner) and Karosu is shaped like a 5 pointed star. The thing that is especially similar about the geography is the peninsula in the west. Both Karosu and France have a prominent peninsula in the west of the country/region. Anyone think these similarities are noteworthy? Here is a picture of France and Karosu side by side so you can see what I mean:
- --Alex726(TALK) 18:42, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- The article already mentions that the region is likely based on France. However, this wording is used because we haven't seen a complete image of the entire region. We don't know if it would be solely based on France. --HoennMaster 18:49, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Possible Japan Basis
If you look at Japan you can see a landmass that looks a lot like Kalos File:Pokemonworld.png
The Kalos landmass while based on europe also seems to take the shape of the Japanese Island of Shinkoku Shinkoku also looks like a five pointed star and the mountains at to the south and east of Kalos look like the shoreline of Shinkoku - unsigned comment from ShadowPikachu126 (talk • contribs)
Probably a coincidence. Chomper4 (talk) 02:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
British Inspiration
If you look to the far left of the region you can clearly see Stonehenge. This shows Britain was an inspiration as well and points towards Kalos drawing on multiple European countries and not just France - although admittedly France heavily referenced. Also the islands at the top of the country are most likely meant to be the Channel Islands, which are British as well. (SuperStanMan (talk) 18:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC))
- Megalithic structures can be found all over Western Europe, including Bretagne (LOTS of them), which is the area on which that part the region is geographically based on. Արիանո 18:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed, megalithic structures are also found in the Netherlands, were I come from. Besides that, while it might seem a bit likely because of how the stones are lined up in the map (in a circular form), it is all just guessing as everything on the map is in miniature and there aren't many images of other locations in the region besides Lumiose City. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 19:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Although it's most likely the Carnac stones, one of the most well known megalitchic structures in the world. But as said, it's currently only guessing (and sorry for saying Bretagne instead of Brittany). Արիանո 19:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed, megalithic structures are also found in the Netherlands, were I come from. Besides that, while it might seem a bit likely because of how the stones are lined up in the map (in a circular form), it is all just guessing as everything on the map is in miniature and there aren't many images of other locations in the region besides Lumiose City. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 19:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
We don't know for sure
Why does the article state that the region is based on France? As far as I know, no source has confirmed this. I personally believe that Kalos is based on France, but I don't think it should be included in the article. If it must stay, I would suggest something like "Similarities in geography and landmarks suggest Kalos is based on France." - unsigned comment from Opalhat (talk • contribs)
- There's enough information to know that it's based on France, the shape of the region is the same shape as France, the tower in Lumiose City that's based off the Eiffel Tower, and the stones where the Carnac Stones should be, as well as the fact that Ken Sugimori had visited France recently. -EVsandIVsaurs 00:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- There's enough information to 'suggest' it is based on France, there is not enough to 'know'. What you're doing is speculating, which is clearly forbidden above. Besides, if the article is going to say so, can it not do so in a more aproprate, lest difinate way: e.g. "Parts are based on France", or "it is likley based off France". Because the way it's written currently is missleading, as it suggests that we 'know' for a fact that the entire is based off France, rather than it is assumed. Do you have a source that actually says it's based on France? No? Then it's nothing more than speculation. Alexsau1991 (talk) 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just noticed the header on the article which says "Please be cautious when adding information to this article, as rumors and speculation often get confused with fact; avoid any information on this subject which is not confirmed by reliable sources". It's pure speculation that you're tring to pass off as fact. There is no 'reliable source', thus it should not be in the article. Who exactly are these rules for if, people are so quick to disregard them so blatently? Alexsau1991 (talk) 00:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- There's enough information to 'suggest' it is based on France, there is not enough to 'know'. What you're doing is speculating, which is clearly forbidden above. Besides, if the article is going to say so, can it not do so in a more aproprate, lest difinate way: e.g. "Parts are based on France", or "it is likley based off France". Because the way it's written currently is missleading, as it suggests that we 'know' for a fact that the entire is based off France, rather than it is assumed. Do you have a source that actually says it's based on France? No? Then it's nothing more than speculation. Alexsau1991 (talk) 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Name Origin
Kalos means "good" and "beautiful" in Greek. That goes with the main theme of the games, beauty. Phoenix-f- (talk) 17:00, 14 June 2013 (UTC)