Talk:Lock-On (move)

Variation?

This is the exact same type, PP and effect and Mind Reader, should this be a variation, or should it just be mentioned in the trivia? Thanks, Samjohn95 16:32, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

It is a variation. They are exactly the same, except for the Pokémon that can learn it. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 18:12, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Metagross

This was definitely NOT the move Lock-On from Shiny Metagross!!! This was its calculating skill so that it knew how to shoot the stones. But if Team Rocket were gone out of the course of the stones the stones would have missed them. The stones had not followed them. But they would by a real Lock-On! Metagross aimed at the place where Team Rocket was standing. Lock-On would not hit the place but the opponent, so that it doesn't mind if the opponent tries to evade; the move follows the target. So it was not the move but only Metagross calculating. Wake up, Metagross do not even learn Lock-On... --- Pokémon _Questions? -- 07:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Were the words "Lock On" used in either the dub or the original? If neither then I agree. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Most of your reasoning doesn't even matter because anime =/= games. The only reasoning behind this would be whether it was told to use the attack or not. LimeGreenCharizard♂ 08:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Regardless of Metagross cannot use Lock-On its like I sad: Metagross did not target Team Rocket but only calculated the course. So its also regardless of whether the words "lock" and "on" were used. But in fact no one called out that it were a move. I admit that it really looks simular to Lock-On... But this is no evidence! (The red target was besides only visible for Metagross. Because it only calculated it! A real Lock-On makes a target out of light which is visible for everyone.) --- Pokémon _Questions? -- 08:34, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Again, moves don't always work the same in the anime as they do in the games. Also, just because it can't learn it in the games, doesn't mean it wouldn't have it in the anime. But you're right, unless someone told it to use Lock-On, then it doesn't count. LimeGreenCharizard♂ 08:45, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

It may be that some moves does not work exactly the same. (Particularly because battles are in the amime more dynamic since they can use the different battle areas for their moves and can evade attacks ect.) But when firstly Metagross usually do not learn Lock-On, secondly its action worked completly different and thirdly no one claimed that it was Lock-On or any move at all, its a bit far-fetched to say it were Lock-On, isn't it? --- Pokémon _Questions? -- 09:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

So may I remove it from the article? --- Pokémon _Questions? -- 10:01, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I guess so. There's also the fact that Metagross used four other moves and Pokémon haven't known more than four moves at once in DP and BW series.--電禅Den Zen 13:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Two things

• Mind Reader: Shouldn't they be synced, meaning that their Effects sections say the same thing? And since Mind Reader mentions Ghost's immunities, shouldn't they both mention all of them?
• This says it only affects the next damage-dealing move. That implies that the effect is "saved" for later when (and only when):
  • The trainer of the user uses an item, attempts and fails to escape a wild battle, etc.
  • The user uses ANY non-damaging move, (allowing Baton Pass to work as mentioned) not affecting, say, Leech Seed or Sand-Attack.

How much of that's right?

TogePikachu 13:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Lock-On/Mind Reader and Follow Me/Rage Powder

Which one takes precedence? If Pokémon X uses Lock-On on Pokémon Y, then in the next turn, Pokémon Z uses Rage Powder and Pokémon X uses a move (Rage Powder has priority) does the move hit Pokémon Y or Pokémon Z? Dinosauramiable (talk) 01:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

After some testing I did with a friend, I found out that it will hit Pokémon Z. Lock-On and Mind Reader do not take precedence over Follow Me/Rage Powder. Rage Powder will attract Lock-On/Mind Reader on the turn that they're used, and the same thing will happen if an attacking move is aimed at a locked-on target, Rage Powder will attract it.

--McFlyMan (talk) 16:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Do Lock-On/Mind Reader even require/force you to choose the same target the next turn? (If they don't, why would you expect them to cancel next turn's Rage Powder?) Nescientist (talk) 18:21, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

They don't, I just wanted to make sure to have all the cases covered and not miss any possible scenarios. --McFlyMan (talk) 18:37, 5 July 2018 (UTC)