Talk:White Forest

Half-Life 2: Episode 2

Petalburg's trivia makes mention of Paper Mario 2 and I'm pretty sure I've seen mention of another coincidental name, but exactly what it was escapes me... Is Half-Life 2: Episode 2 worth mentioning here, or is it a Nintendo Kool Kidz' Club kind of thing? BP 09:18, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess that would be OK. But we kinda are a Nintendo Kool Kidz' Club. It also means that Black City gets EarthBound in its trivia. --SnorlaxMonster 08:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Knew I wasn't the only one who thought it looked like Moonside... BP 09:10, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Nidoran

On the Black and White and Nidoran♂ pages, it says that Nidoran♂ can be caught here, but on this page, it says only Nidoran♀ can be caught. Which one is correct? Slimey01 00:01, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I would think that you can catch Nidoran♀ and use it to breed Nidoran♂, but I'm not sure if Nidoran♂ are actually in White Forest. --SnorlaxMonster 13:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Mayor

I'm not familiar with the Bulbapedia's Manual of Style, so I wouldn't know where to put this exactly, but I wanted to let you folks know that the Mayor will ask you to let him know if you find a random pokemon in the forest each day. If you catch that pokemon that day and bring it to him, he'll award you with a random berry. Trades or pokemon caught on a previous day do not count, to my knowledge. I'm not sure what berries exactly he gives, but he gave me a Lum Berry today. Jimcloud 06:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Population error?

It essentially took me 2 weeks to get to White Forest, yet I only have 3 named people. Does the value roll over after it hits 10 and start at 0 again? --Zoen 10:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The population is counted at the highest possible level. And I'm not sure if the value changes to 0 after hitting 10. --Han Ji-Wan 01:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Another question to ask then...are the "pointless" NPCs inside the mayor's house and around White Forest counted towards that population? Not counting the Mayor or the staff inside the Pokemon Center, there's 13 people total. Think this needs a bit further explanation. --Zoen 10:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes... The "pointless" NPCs are counted towards White Forest's population. Also, the people in the gate buildings are counted in as well. --Han Ji-Wan 05:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

So then under that statement, White Forest can have higher than 10 population. I didn't even count the people in the gate buildings. --Zoen 10:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's right. It's fine since I've already done the population count for White Forest. :] --Han Ji-Wan 13:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

From the black and white version I played, the population seems is based more than on the amount of time passed since game start, or NDS internal clock. I spent 60 hrs to get to black city in a week real time, and the city was full. I spent 11 hrs in 2 days real time to get to white forest, and the only people I get are lotad, mareep, and sloth. However, I didn't do any of the side quests in white, is the starting population in anyway related to the areas explored? or a time cycle that resets? Ddvche 18:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

What do the names mean?

for example, for this pokemon, in the last column it gives the name of a person. what does that mean? is it you have to talk to this person in order to find this pokémon? - unsigned comment from Mpcamel1729 (talk • contribs)

That's the name of the resident who must be in your White Forest for that pokémon to appear. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 22:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

On the subject, it'd be nice if someone could put each of their overworld sprites beside their names; otherwise users will have to cross-reference with Black City's page to find out what sort of trainer to talk to. --Andy^P_K^M_N (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you even need to talk to them? They're there; that should generate the pokémon automatically, unless there's proof contrary. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

You need to talk to them at least every other day in order to keep them from leaving. —Minimiscience 00:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

To keep them from leaving, yeah. But you're going to learn quite quickly which ones are the ones you need to speak to (making sprites unnecessary? I dunno; it would make those boxes less plain to look at). I was more saying, "You shouldn't have to speak to them to make the pokémon appear, unless I'm wrong." I was still camped on the first statement. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I thought the point of the names was to list the people you need to invite over from Black City. In that case, it'd be useful to know what they look like so you can determine whether or not to invite them. --Andy^P_K^M_N (talk) 01:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, not really made for that reason. It's to show who generates what, basic as basic can be. So yeah, I suppose who to invite over is on the list of uses. But how does the inviting process even work? Is it an auto-process? Mistakenly talk to them and they're yours until you ignore them? You're screwed if you want one particular male clerk, and the person with Black has both male clerks. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I've visited my brother's White Forest from my Black Version, and they do ask you if they can accompany you back to your game. I don't remember if you get their names beforehand, however. That's why I thought the sprites would be useful—yes, there's more than one member of certain trainer classes, but it'd help narrow it down. Plus, I think it'd help to clarify what the names mean, whereas its current ambiguity leads to questions like the one which started this topic in the first place! --Andy^P_K^M_N (talk) 02:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Dropped Items

I was just wondering if the dropped items in White Forest should be mentioned in the article?, After all, it is something major that happens from day to day. --KayKay|Chat to me! 02:39, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Marutoku Book

Calls White Forest a City whenever referencing it in Japanese. Should this be moved to Cities then with Black City? Bluesun 14:26, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Why isn't this listed under "Cities and Towns"

Just because its called "White Forest" doesn't mean that it is automatically ruled out as a city or town. It's pretty much like a town/village on its own with a Mayor, two houses plus it has a Pokemon Center as well. Isn't that enough?

Also, why is the Pokemon League even listed under Cities and Towns? Just because it has its own Pokemon center too? Then if so this should also be in that category otherwise Pokemon League should be under Landmarks. Blueknightex 12:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, being White Forest immediately rules out it being a city or town. Pokémon League (sinnoh and Unova) I'm not sure about.--ForceFire 12:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

No one seems to be providing a response and just undoing my edits. Edit Summary message is basically giving me the answer that I expected.

I just want to know if there is a criteria on the towns/cities? Or was it just decided because of the name "White FOREST"?. How about Pokemon League? It was only a Pokemon Center and a building yet its under Cities & Towns? Blueknightex 09:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, I think it should be considered a town. However, it is also a forest (so it should stay in Category:Forests). --SnorlaxMonster 10:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree, as I said below, it's treated as a town...where you can catch Pokémon. It has a Pokémon Center, a MAYOR, residents, makes sense to list it as a town. --HoennMaster 19:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Change

Since I don't want this to turn into a revert war. I was thinking that we should be change the infobox to the ones that we use for Cities and Towns. While it is true that White Forest is a forest where you can catch Pokémon, it's basically treated as a town. It has a mayor, permanent houses, a Pokémon Center (although other non-city places have had it), and the very dynamic of Black City and White Forest is about residents anyway. Opinions? --HoennMaster 15:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

What to do about the White Tree Hollow?

There doesn't seem to be any information about the White Tree Hollow except for Benga's teams. That and the Black Tower deserve their own pages, right? (Serebii has a list of the regular Trainers and bosses who appear in them.) Dimenticare (talk) 17:46, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I asked this same question on the Black City talk page a month ago but it's been ignored. They're certainly big enough to warrant their own pages. - Blazios _talk 18:32, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I could probably write (most of) a White Tree Hollow page myself, but I don't want to do something crazy like that without permission. Dimenticare (talk) 20:33, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The page for detailing the battles in the White Tree Hollow and the Black Skyscraper can go ahead and be created. Lady Ariel 23:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Just in case you don't know, the correct spelling is "White Treehollow" (I assume you know that already, just wanted to make sure). - Blazios _talk 23:18, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I've seen both. I guess I'll go with Treehollow now. Dimenticare (talk) 23:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Tree Hollow was how we translated the original, the English games and the site (but most importantly the games) spell it Treehollow. - Blazios _talk 23:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. Either way, I see someone's made a page for it now . . . Dimenticare (talk) 00:38, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Confusion

I am extremely unsure about some aspects of white forest (and black city). I guess the most general question I can ask to get the most answers would be if you have one black version and one white version, could you populate your forest/city from nothing with just these two games?

When visiting in entralink not all of the trainers ask to come over. I tried changing the clock to simulate a day passing to see if that would change things but it didn't seem to. Not sure if a day has to pass naturally or whatever. Maybe I should be a little more patient but I'm hoping for an easy, quick answer. Loumast (talk) 08:37, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Manually changing the clock will lock you out of time-based events for 24 hours. You should try waiting and see if it is still the same. -Pokeant (talk) 08:11, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Alright, been waiting and checking every day and nothing has changed except I've been able to grab some of those dropped items in white. I'm gonna try and let people start leaving in my black city and see if that effects anything. Loumast (talk) 14:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)