Talk:Sylveon (Pokémon)

cross-generational evolution

Should this be added to the List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions? --GoldenSandslash15 (talk) 02:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Name origin

Are there any reasonable explanations for the origin of its name? I've seen "Nymph" and "Ninja" floating around, but maybe someone who knows more about Japanese could take a closer look at its name (especially with the other Eeveelutions' names being very straightforward). --Perlgia (talk) 08:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

It's better to not add the name origin before we have more info, but I think "Nymph" is the most likely origin since it's very similar to its Japanese name: ニンフ and ニンフィア. If it came from "Ninja", they would make it more obvious.--電禅Den Zen 08:50, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a bit weird that we have VaporEON, JoltEON, FlarEON,and so on, and now we have NinFIA. They'll probably change it to Ninfeon. Just my opinion. --VictiniLopunny7 (talk) 13:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Ninfia is the Japanese name, the English name has been released yet.--ForceFire 13:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

My guess is that its English is going to be something like "Nympheon". --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Guessing is for the forum where this discussion belongs. --Spriteit (talk) 13:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

But Ninfia could also be from Nimbus cloud, which in Japanese is ニンブース (Ninbuusu). So it really could be anything right now, so until it's type is revealed we can't say. ----samm :) (talk) 16:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Except it's not. In fact, the only result on google for ニンブース (Ninbuusu) is a comment trying to resolve this Pokémon's name. The usual spelling of the English 'nimbus' in Japanese is ニンバス (Ninbasu). Bluesun (talk) 21:01, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

"Sylveon" is probably based on the air elemental "Sylph", so "Nymph" would make even more sense as the name origin of Ninfia. --Perlgia (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

To also add to that, its French name is Nymphali, so I guess 'nymph' as the name origin for its Japanese name seems that more likely. Rai Marshall (talk) 21:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

"Sylveon" could just as easily be a reference to Sylvan, which relates to the woods more than to air, also both "Sylph" and "Nymph" are female-only mythological spirits, which ties with the asthetic similar to the female-dominant fairy-group pokemon. OneInTwenty (talk) 22:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

A Sylph is a mythical creature that is said to inhabit the air. A dictionary (and many RPGs) told me so. Nymph is only a generalized name for a sylph, salamander, gnome, or undine. --Kektklik (talk) 02:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The German name begins with "Fee", which is German for "fairy". Briguychau (talk) 05:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

The French name contains "nymph" and the English name contains "Syl". The "Syl" could be referring to the Greek mythological nymph "Syllis" who was a lover of the Greek mythological god "Apollo"-The Greek god of light or the sun. This may connect with the rumored new "light" type. It being the lightest eeveelution yet may also be a hint to that. "Syl" could also represent mythological Sylphs(sky fairies), which could be hinting towards Sylveon being flying(or at least part flying) type. Another indication of this is (according to the Wikipedia article on Sylphs)the article states that they ride the "wind", hence the ribbons appearing as being blown by wind. It also states that sylphs are said to be slender and graceful and having large glistening eyes. All of these examples are reflected in Ninfia/Sylveon's design. It also doesn't really follow the traditional design style of any current types. A bit off topic here but Xerneas is kind of the same in the sense of looking like the current types and the rainbow-esque style of it's "antlers". Rainbows strongly relate to light and it goes on... But getting into new types and Xerneas is pointless as this is the Sylveon discussion page. Vexino (talk) 03:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Sylveon must be a Flying-type. A sylph is a mythological creature in the Western tradition. The term was created by Paracelsus, who described sylphs as elementals of the air. Who knows, maybe it can fly with its ribbons. To add to my theory, Sylveon is also the lightest Eeveelution. -MasterZ 21:04, 21 February 2013 (EST)

The word Sylph is very specifically an air-elemental, flying spirit— coined by Paracelsus. Until the mid-1800's, the word in any English dictionary would include the phrase "light, airy movements;" at which point the definition of "slender, graceful girl" appeared, derived from those airy qualities. Etymology in most dictionaries only go as far back as its Modern Latin coinage; however, some suggest a possible (i.e. hypothetical) relation to an earlier Latin root meaning "of the woods." But! Firstly, We already have Leafeon; & Secondly, The hypothetical earlier Latin root "of the woods" does not, unlike its first recorded usage, specify anything elemental whatsoever. The creek is of the woods… So, unless there's to be a new Type introduced, it's safe to assume that Sylveon will be a Flying type Pokémon. Pic620 (talk) 03:44, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

English name is Sylveon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pse_I1klRhA

From the official Pokémon channel.--♪ Radio Rebel ♪ - Reject the status quo! 13:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

German Name Origin

I’d say the German name is a mix of ‘Fee’ (fairy) and Felinae (felinae), ending in -ara just as Nachtara (Umbreon) and Flamara (Flareon). Any other ideas about that? Should we add the Fee/felinae part to the German name explanation? Peterpansexuell (talk) 14:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the forums, as it would be best to speculate there. Its name could come from a lot of things, it is hard to say for sure until we know more information. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 14:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

By now it's pretty obvious that in every language its name is based on a feminine mythological creature: Nymph (Japanese and French), Sylph (English) and "Fee" (German for "fairy"). The "felinae" part is debatable, but the mythological pattern is there. --Perlgia (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Sylveon Video Moves

I'm sure in the video featuring Sylveon, it uses moves similiar to both Swift and Trump Card, could this be added?TurtleLover1999 (talk) 17:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I think we should wait until all of the moves that Sylveon can learn are revealed. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 19:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

We will not be adding any information into the articles unless it has been confirmed by an official source. Adding the moves because they look like "Swift" would be speculation. --Pokemaster97 19:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Reddish fur?

Unless I am color blind, I think that "reddish fur" it has would more be a light/hot pink, not "reddish". —Clubchloe1 19:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, it was a guess as to the color of the fur from the image in the scan. I would agree to changing the color described. --Super goku (talk) 02:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Miscelaneous details

Tied with Vaporeon, Umbreon, and Leafeon for tallest eeveelution. OneInTwenty (talk) 22:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The fact that it is joint first with three other Eeveelutions is unnotable. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 23:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Sylveon is the lightest Eeveelution, implying that it could be a Flying-type. -MasterZ 21:08, 21 February 2013 (EST)

First Gen VI Pokémon to make an anime debut?

I think this might be too early to post, but since Sylveon is confirmed to appear in the upcoming Pikachu short PK25, does that make Sylveon the first Generation VI Pokémon to debut in the anime? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 00:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

PK25 doesn't air until July 13, and the anime still has a few months left. They could throw something in between now and then, so I say we wait. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 00:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Sylveon Evolutionbox

I'm pretty sure that Sylveon is an Eeveelution...

Anyways, why not add an Evolution portion? We know that Sylveon evolves from Eevee, so why not add that to the infobox?

Unevolved Eevee  Normal

Unknown →

First Evolution Sylveon  ???

So it would look like that. .Garyoak (talk) 12:18, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

We should wait until we know HOW it evolves. The page already mentions that it evolves from Eevee, which is enough for now.--電禅Den Zen 12:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't think not knowing the method should matter. We also mention the Pokémon that any Pokémon evolves from on its page in the same way we do for Sylveon, but include an infobox as well. The template is capable of outputting "Unknown" as a method, so I don't see why not to use it. --SnorlaxMonster 12:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Nymphia

Does anyone know where source that the official romanization is "Nymphia" is? I've heard it is official but yet to see the source. --SnorlaxMonster 12:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

These stickers.--電禅Den Zen 12:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. --SnorlaxMonster 13:34, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hehyeyeyey... It totally isn't Nymphia. When you try to find it, they would say it is Ninfia. About the stickers, might be a typographical error. --Falcypon (talk) 08:37, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

The official romanization is different to the Hepburn romanization. Ninfia is the Hepburn romanization, and while the official one can be the same sometimes, in most cases it is different. --SnorlaxMonster 09:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

What? Falcypon (talk) 13:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

"Ninfia" is just how you pronounce "ニンフィア", but its Japanese name is "Nymphia". Just like how "Mewtwo" and "Lugia" are pronounced "Myūtsū" and "Rugia" in Japanese.--電禅Den Zen 15:46, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

English Name Origin

Shouldn't it mention how the name 'Sylveon' ends with -eon, just like all Eeveelutions, as it says this for the French Name Origin?TurtleLover1999 (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

In fact, there is no English name origin section at all. Where the English name origin is on other pages, we instead have a duplicate of the Japanese name origin section. Hmm. - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talk • news talk • archives talk) 18:41, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm more concerned with the fact it most likely originates from "sylvan", which refers to woods and forests. (Which only adds to the mystery of why it's named such and yet can't be a Grass type....)FerreTrip (talk) 21:54, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The word "sylvan" can also refer to a spirit or deity of the woods. It's very possible this was the derivative word rather than "sylph," or it could be both. Silmina (talk) 11:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Sylveon comes from "sylph" the definitions of which are... 1. A messenger from the air. 2. A slender woman or girl. It is pretty much another word for nymph, like in Ninfia. As a side note, most of it's names have origins that specify females. I think we have a genderlock! =) Team-Eevee (talk) 15:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't think having the word "sylph" in it's name instantly means it's a gender-locked evolution, especially since Eevee itself has a gender ratio of 1♀/7♂. Then again, Combee has the same ratio yet has a gender-locked evo. --Relicant (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Going by that logic, Slowking and Mr. Mime should be only male. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I took that into account, but there is more evidence supporting a genderlock than just names. Virgil's unevolved Eevee was unneccesarily revealed to be female though the anime almost never specifies genders. In Pikachu & Eevee Friends, it is stressed in the new trailer that Meowth has a huge crush on the Sylveon. So in addition to name and anime hints, we have seen pokemon like Vespiquen, Froslass, and Galade. A female exclusive Eeveelution would be tough to obtain, which GameFreak has been fond of lately. Besides, if it weren't genderlocked, why would nymph AND sylph have been used? If it were a dragon-type, why not Draceon, Scaleon, or Fangeon? If it were a flying-type, why not Windeon, Breezeon, or Cloudeon? If it were a normal-type, why not Eeveeon, Faireon, or Pixeon? Just something to think about. I hope I'm right, but if I'm wrong I'm wrong... as are a lot of gender confused Sylveon XD Team-Eevee (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Can we please stop speculating on talk pages. They are for the discussion of the article, not the topic of the article. Please take this discussion to the forums. --SnorlaxMonster 05:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Could somebody add a section for the English Name Origin? I would but the page is locked. --Youngster2000 (talk) 21:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

What it looks like.

Most of Eevee's evolutions are foxes, except Espeon. This one looks like a deer with paws. - unsigned comment from Likalaruku (talk • contribs)

Sylveon looks like it's made up of a lot of other Pokemon parts. It has Victini eyes, Miccino ears, Deerling tail, Milotic ribbons, Gothita bows, and Glaceon/Leafeon feet. Glitchynidoqueen (talk) 22:33, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

german name

|de=Feelinara|demeaning=From Fee. Ends with -a like every Eeveelution in German. --Altruis _でんき 17:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

hello pls edit the german name --Altruis _でんき 05:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. --SnorlaxMonster 14:59, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

• I think it might also refer to Sylveon's feelers. They are referred to as feelers in the press release. TorchicBlaziken ^{(talk•edits)} 21:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Small problem

Just thought I'd mention this: it's said in the physiology section that "it's eye are blue with no visible sclera". That should be changed to "no visible iris"; the sclera is the blue bit Green Zubat (talk) 21:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Done. --SnorlaxMonster 14:59, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but there's now a small typo. Not sure if you want to fix it, by it says "... and no visible irides." If it would be possible to change it to irises, that'd probably help.- unsigned comment from Sioli (talk • contribs)

Actually, "irides" is a plural form of iris, so it's just another way to say "irises". --Pokemaster97 23:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to be rude but, the Iris is actually the colour bit in the eye while the sclera is the whit bit around it [1] Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Moves, perhaps?

Hey, just a quick question. Would it be a good idea to add the pre-evolution moves that it can learn, as we know all of those from Eevee, or would it be advised to wait until we know everything which it can learn? Just a tidbit curious, is all. Sioli (talk) 00:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Waiting would be best, I think, since we don't know what moves Eevee will or won't learn yet. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 01:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Typo

'Sylveon a combination of...' should be 'Sylveon is a combination of...'. - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talk • news talk • archives talk) 18:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Name Origin

Down in the name origin area, it is mentioned that Sylveon's name could come from "Sylph", but I think another name origin could be "sylvan", (meaning of the forest) which seems to match Sylveon's name a bit better. I also think the whole thing about the 'Eon' suffix having to do with how long evolution takes needs to be removed. As far as we know, the 'Eon' suffix is only there because of it being an Eeveelution. Zarthga (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That is the explanation for why all the Eeveelutions have the "eon" suffix. There is a reason thaat the Eeveelutions have that specific suffix, and that's the only explanation we have. --SnorlaxMonster 10:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

It's more likely that Sylveon's name comes from sylvan than sylph. Vienna Waltz (talk) 16:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

How so? Sylph is a fairy. Sylveon is a Fairy-type Pokémon.--電禅Den Zen 17:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Sylvans are also fairies (Sylvan or Silvan refers to an association with the woods. Specifically, that which inhabits the wood, is made of tree materials, or comprises the forest itself. The term can also refer to a person who resides in the woods or a spirit of the wood. In mythology, the term also refers to deities or spirits of the woods.) and its name is Sylveon and not Sylpheon Vienna Waltz (talk) 05:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Type

Sylveon was confirmed to be Fairy-type! - User:Ishlishl

The staff is aware and we're currently working to update all pages accordingly. --Pokemaster97 14:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Species

According to the press release, Sylveon is the Interwining Pokémon.--Lemonade Mouth (talk) 18:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Origin

We could put the basic mammal stuff it shares with all eeveelutions (looks like a cat, dog, fox mix), and now that we have fairy type confirmed we can say the bows resemble fairy wings. CoolDudeAl (talk) 19:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Sylveon

Just FYI, 님피아 would be rendered as Nimpia, not Nymphia, using RR. Pokemon of Korea doesn't maintain separate Romanized named for Pokemon like Japan does. Also, as such, its Korean name is simply a transliteration of its Japanese name. I'd change it myself if I could... -- Nick15 (talk) 03:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Also just FYI. In Cantonese, all Eeveelution will have the name "依貝" instead of "精靈". In Generation IV, only Leafeon and Glaceon have a Cantonese name while the other Generation IV Pokémon did not have any names there. So the Cantonese name of Sylveon should be 仙子依貝 Sīnzìyībui. I'd change it myself if I could too. KyleRGiggs 00:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Learnset

It should be said on the page under "Game Data" under "Learnset" that Sylveon has been shown to know how to use Moonblast through an unknown method. CrazyMagmar (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

We don't know the full moveset yet, so what's the point? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 21:04, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

anime debut

the short already aired sylveon is no longer "set to appear in the Pikachu short PK25." - unsigned comment from 0danmaster0 (talk • contribs)

Shiny

Should we add its shiny image to the page to showcase its alternate look. My thinking behind this is that we have shown screenshots of an unsheathed Honedge, and a Swirlix with both its "feet" visible to showcase alternate appearances for them, and since shiny form(e)s are, themselves, alternate appearances of Pokémon, it only makes sense to me to add a shiny image.--ShinyPatch (talk) 12:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Spirte

I have a frontsprite of a Sylveon , that I can actually use there , how do i create the Spritebox ? - unsigned comment from PoisonPlush (talk • contribs)

Well, first it will need to be uploaded to the Archives, but those are, I believe, not available for upload. So I suppose send it to a member of staff to upload it for you. Then rest can be figured out. Although...X and Y don't use sprites, so... --Wynd Fox 01:53, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

This is the Spirte : I Also have the Honedge evolutionary family. - unsigned comment from PoisonPlush (talk • contribs)

Okay, let's upload those Kalos sprites. SeanWheeler (talk) 16:54, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Hey hey hey. Wait a second. Don't just go and make these important decisions first. Not that you could even do anything since the Archives are locked. First of all, is that all you have? Just Sylveon and the Honedge line? What about the other Gen VI Pokemon? And the ones from Gen I to V? Did you make those images yourself or did you get them from somewhere? Those also need to be squared. Talk it up with an administrator first, please. Ataro (talk) 17:50, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I now have the Sligoo Evolutionary Family , Fletchling , and Fennekin. I found them all on a Tumblr , I asked the tumblr owner if they could be used here , I'm awaiting his/hers answer. - unsigned comment from PoisonPlush (talk • contribs) Oh , I've got the answer , and he/she said that he/she taked them from this site : http://www.pkparaiso.com/xy/sprites_pokemon.php And the site says that if the sprites are going to be used , they need to be credited...

Trivia

As we have done it earlier with Magneton and Magnezone; Eevee and Sylveon are in a evolution family which differs the great difference in NATdex ,being 567. Rajjoaby (talk) 22:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Nah, I don't think that's notable. I read Magnezone's page and couldn't find the note. If it was removed, probably not notable enough. Although the removal of that note could have been because of Sylveon. Actually no it wasn't because I just checked the last revision before Sylveon's introduction and that note wasn't there. And besides, all cross-gen evolutionary relatives have a great difference in National Dex numbers. SeanWheeler (talk) 23:45, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Biology section edit summary

Sorry about the unfinished edit summary; I accidentally hit Enter in the middle of it, so I'll put this here instead. I was going to say, "'Dainty' is opinionated language, and per Crystal Talian's edits to other Eeveelutions including Espeon, try to avoid naming them as specifically feline." Sorry! Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Sylveon is feline, not canine.

Okay, Crystal Talian – here is my thesis about why Sylveon (and Espeon as well) should be described as feline in this Wiki . . .

It is quite obvious to me that Sylveon, Espeon, (and all of the Eeveelutions, as a matter of fact) are feline. They do possess long ears, but that alone does not prove that Sylveon are canids. Their slender, delicate body structures, blunt, dainty, muzzles and faces, and small triangular noses clearly resemble traits of felines. Canids, on the other hand, typically have long, distinctly pointed snouts and larger, bulkier body structures.

Let me compare true canine and vulpine Pokémon to the distinctly catlike Sylveon (and Espeon).

First, we have Houndoom: it clearly resembles a canine, specifically a domestic dog. It has a bulky, muscular body structure and a long, bulky pointed muzzle with a large nose. Also, its blunt claws, visible on its large, bulky feet, cannot be retracted. Note that canids’ claws are always visible because they cannot retract them, whereas felines’ claws are retracted in their natural, calm state.

Next, another dog Pokémon is Arcanine: like Houndoom, it is very bulky and muscular in body structure, with a long, distinctly dog-like muzzle.

Now, foxes, which are canids (specifically vulpine), although comparable to Sylveon according to some of you (based on the ears???), are also very different. I don’t believe you can use the ears in any Pokémon to identify its species, because with most Pokémon, the ears seem to be extraordinarily designed, and in some cases have no connection to the rest of the body structure (note Houndoom’s horns.) Another point about the extraordinarily long ears of the Eeveelutions to consider is this: they may not be explicitly cat-like, but they are not really fox-like, and especially not dog-like, either. As a matter of fact, the extraordinarily long ears of Eevee and its evolutions are more rabbit-like than anything (but no one even considers this obvious feature).

Let’s compare Sylveon to real, confirmed fox Pokémon (vulpines), such as Fennekin, Braixen, and Delphox. Fennekin and its evolutions have very distinct, long pointy muzzles. Sylveon clearly lacks such a long fox-like muzzle. Sylveon’s muzzle, as I have pointed out, is very blunt and catlike – not at all bulky, long, or even remotely canid in appearance. The Fennekin family is based on Fennec foxes, but Sylveon and Espeon are clearly not, based on their feline body and facial structures as opposed to the canine/vulpine body and facial structures of the Fennekin line.

And a little side note: interestingly, in the Pikachu short-film that features Sylveon, Meowth is shown to be madly in love with Sylveon. I highly doubt Meowth, a cat Pokémon, would be attracted to a dog Pokémon. . .

I urge you to thoroughly check the pictures of the Pokémon I’ve compared, make comparisons to Sylveon (and Espeon) versus the real, confirmed dog and fox (canid/vulpine) Pokémon, and note and consider the distinctions I am making.

I think that it is far too general to state that Sylveon and Espeon are merely “mammalian”. It is also inaccurate to place “foxes and dogs” before “cats” in Sylveon's origin section, as if this Pokémon resembles a canid more than it resembles a feline. That is incorrect if it is indeed a combination of the felid-canid species. In that case, since it is more feline in overall appearance, feline should come first. Who’s being biased here?

I am only trying to post accurate information based on the obvious physiological traits of the Eeveelutions. You do want this Wiki to contain accurate information, don’t you? Let’s keep our emotions out of this. It’s not about favoritism at all. It’s about accuracy.

P.S. Just to let you know, I am well aware that I have just as much right to edit this page as you do. But I am going to be courteous and await your response to your suggestion of discussing it on the talk page. If I don't get a courteous response back from you in 24 hours, then I will exercise my right to edit the Wiki page as I see fit, based on my thorough analysis of this Pokémon’s physiological traits. --Fireball the Victini (talk) 00:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

The first thing I want to address here is your attitude toward the end of your statement. Yes, you have every right to edit this Wiki. However, you are expected to respect decisions made by staff of this Wiki -- of which I am a member. So when you are asked nicely to not to do something by staff, you should not do it until a decision has been made and the okay is given, regardless of how long it takes.

That said, I can address the physiological traits of Eevee and its evolutions. While I go through, I am actually going to encourage you to be unbiased and realize that there is more than one way to look at things and that many, many Pokémon have their basis in a collection of animals, not just one kind.

The short, blunt muzzles of the Eeveelutions are indeed feline, as you pointed out. However, small paws are not necessarily feline, nor is a slim body structure. Foxes have small paws and slim legs, and the Maned Wolf has a very slim structure overall. Furthermore, many larger felids, such as lions, have truly massive paws that are not in the least tiny. As for their claws, most of the Eeveelutions do not appear to have claws one way or the other, so an argument about retractable claws really is not valid. In addition, some felids, such as the cheetah, have only semi-retractable claws.

Now let us address some other common Eeveelution traits. For example, a brushy tail, this is possessed by Eevee itself, Flareon, Umbreon, and even Sylveon to an extent. This trait is distinctly and almost famously vulpine. The ears of most Eeveelutions, as you pointed out, are more rabbit-like than anything else. This trait is neither feline nor canine, but it is still mammalian. Additionally, Eeveelutions lack the slit pupils common in most small cats. Instead, they have round pupils, common to not large felids, but also canids and many other mammals. Even the vocalizations of these Pokémon in anime range from sounding like barks (as in Jolteon) to a more mewing quality (as in Espeon).

The point about a cat Pokémon being attracted to a dog Pokémon is, to be honest, a little silly. They are still in the same Egg group, and animals of origin do not necessarily have anything to do attraction.

I honestly think that Sylveon, Eevee and all the Eeveelutions are a collection of traits from cats, dogs (including foxes), rabbits, and other animals. I feel that it is most fair to address them as simply "mammalian" rather than distinctly feline, canine, vulpine, rabbit-like or any other specific animal. You are welcome to add more to the discussion, of course, and I will mention this to other members of staff. However, I do ask that you not make any changes until you are given the okay on it. Thanks! Crystal Talian 01:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I disagree wholeheartedly (the Eeveelutions look nothing like maned wolves), and I honestly think that you are being biased against the cat family. It is as if you are in denial and will not even consider making the articles more accurate, even though it is strikingly obvious that Sylveon, Espeon, and many of the Eeveelutions are indeed more feline than anything else.

(By the way, in one series of the Pokemon manga, Jolteon is shown to be extending its claws, like a cat, while preparing for battle.)

But since you have higher privileges on Bulbapedia, I suppose there is nothing I can do to provide more accurate information without you nitpicking and reverting all of my edits constantly as if I am vandalizing the page . . .

I believe that it is appropriate to remove "dogs" from Sylveon's Origin section (because it looks nothing like a domestic dog), and move "cats" before "foxes", and remove that it is "most likely based on a fennec fox", as we already know that the Fennekin family is based on fennec foxes and Sylveon does not resemble the Fennekin family in any way.

I mean, you can tell by this image of Sylveon (from a different angle), that its dainty sitting position is reminiscent of a domestic cat:

I also believe it is appropriate to remove "Fennec fox" from Espeon's Origin, as it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that Espeon might be based on a fennec fox, considering there is already pretty solid evidence that it is indeed based on the mystical two-tailed nekomata cat from Japanese folklore.

I will indeed make these minor, harmless edits to the origin sections of those pages. Sorry if it bothers you so much. . .

I just tried to help make the Wiki more accurate. I know that the Eeveelutions are based on felines (with extraordinary chimerical features), but it seems that no one wants to admit this fact. ---Fireball the Victini (talk) 19:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

You say Sylveon is "obviously" feline? I couldn't honestly call it anything but "feminine" and I guess "mammalian". The Eeveelutions are all over the place. Your "knowledge" is not absolute, just another fan's opinion and not necessarily more accurate than anyone else's. The only hard "facts" are what the developers want to divulge. Short of that, you have to hope for consensus. (And here, for now, you do not have it.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

As you can see above, many people see the Eeveelutions as nothing more than furry animals. I've heard it from others that, for them, they don't look like either dogs or cats. The fact that dogs are listed before cats has nothing to do with one being more influential than the other, and origins are almost never absolute or just one thing. I told you to wait until you were given the okay, and you didn't. The origins are fine the way they are for now, pending change on input from other using and staff. I'm not nitpicking, I'm also doing my best to ensure accuracy. Try to be a little more open-minded about the origins here. Crystal Talian 21:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Max Exp

The Max Exp That Sylveon can have is 1M (1,000,000) Igor The Mii (talk) 20:43, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

umm.. is this trivia worthy?

Sorry I'm new here,but I noticed that sylveon is the only eeveelution that does not have a resistance to its own. Am I incorrect,or has this been mentioned before? Fiky f (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

about abilities...

so Sylveon's Hidden ability is "Pixilate", but how do you get a Sylveon with hidden ability? will an Eevee with Anticipation (its hidden ability) when evolved to Sylveon automatically become Pixilate Sylveon? --ZaphodBeeblebrox (talk) 18:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes. MetalMetroid997 (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

aha, thank you so much! I ponder if maybe this information should be clarified on the "abilities" page, e.g. something like "Pokémon with the hidden ability x will evolve into Pokémon with hidden ability y" for situations where x and y do not have overlapping or identical abilities/hidden abilities. Another example that comes to mind is Oblivious Numel evolving into Magma Armor Camerupt. I feel that this is information that is sort of information is lacking/should be researched and should be recorded somewhere. But if in a table on the ability page or on each pokémon's individual page, I am not sure. ZaphodBeeblebrox (talk) 22:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

It is mentioned on the Ability page: "When a Pokémon evolves, its Ability slot remains the same." Hidden Ability is an Ability slot. Litwick96 22:40, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Possible Sylveon origin?

(Sorry, I'm new to this) Hello! I know that discussions regarding Eeveelution's design origins can be a bit messy... however I did a bit of searching here and there, and I think it's a possibility that Sylveon could be based on the Moon Rabbit myth, and to an extent, the Leporidae family?

I'll explain to you my reasoning for this: -Compared to the rest of the Eeveelution's pointed ears, one of Sylveon's unique traits are it's large rounded ears, making it bear a resemblance to jack rabbits. -Sylveon's "signature" (by signature, I mean a move that Sylveon is always depicted with in trailers, spinoffs and the anime) move is moonblast, connecting to the moon rabbit mythical. Ken Sugimori has even drawn official art showcasing Hydreigon and Sylveon, with the latter dropping down from the sky and burrowing it's power, creating the illusion that Sylveon came from the moon itself. -Moon rabbit has always been depicted to be white to mirror the color of the moon and the rice cakes that it makes. While the Pokedex describes Sylveon to be pink, the majority of it's body is colored to be white, as the pink can only be seen in minor areas, such as the face and tail. -Sylveon's tail has some resemblance to the Viscacha rabbit's tail, both are long enough to curl even in a relaxed state. -In PK25, "Eevee and Frien--Pika Pika Pi~!! (talk) 16:45, 18 April 2019 (UTC)ds," Sylveon's icon was shown to be egg shaped. Perhaps the Easter Bunny is a possible origin as well? -Furthering the Easter rabbit theory, the folkloric figure is sometimes depicted with clothes. Sylveon is the only eeveelution to be illustrated with accessories, having feelers disguised as ribbons.

And that's my observation so far! Under no circumstance do I think it's 100% true and canon, however I do believe that it could explain the few traits that Sylveon possesses, and it can clear things up a bit.

--Pika Pika Pi~!! (talk) 21:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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Err, is there a reason why someone keeps adding 'It also has a mix of other mammalian traits, such as those of cats and foxes,' to the origins section? I understand that Eeveelutions are supposed to be a mixed mammal of some sort, but I feel as if the moon rabbit is more plausible and less confusing, as it has ties to the relationship between fairies and the moon, as well as how Sylveon's ribbons are a reference to Chang e's robe. --Pika Pika Pi~!! (talk) 16:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

That would be me. It's because Sylveon, like all Eeveelutions, is not clearly based on any one animal. The moon rabbit is perfectly plausible, but Sylveon is definitely not 100% rabbit in any way shape or form. The most rabbit-like thing about it is the origin history and its ears. That doesn't take away from its other mammalian traits; cats in particular. The addition doesn't take away from the moon rabbit origin at all, just adds on an additional note regarding its physical appearance. Remember, most Pokémon aren't based on one thing and one thing alone, but a combination of things. There is absolutely no reason not to have it there. In fact, it's kind of a misrepresentation to not mention those traits. Crystal Talian 16:35, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh ok! I was actually a little confused, since the origins hasn't been touched for a while now, and the change that was made is recent, but I understand your side of the argument, and I'll be sure to leave it alone! However, I feel as if Sylveon's features are too small and delicate compared to the fox, but that's for another story and not very important aha. Again, sorry for the confusion! --Pika Pika Pi~!! (talk) 16:45, 18 April 2019 (UTC)