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This page is to document what {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} are available during a low-[[Base stats|base stat]] total (referred to as BST) challenge run in various {{pkmn|games}} in the series. | This page is to document what {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} are available during a low-[[Base stats|base stat]] total (referred to as BST) challenge run in various {{pkmn|games}} in the series. | ||
Pokémon that become available after first watching the [[game credits|credits]] roll are not listed, as they serve no purpose to the challenge. The sole exception to this is {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, which has the {{pkmn|battle}} with {{ga|Red}} atop [[Mt. Silver]]. | |||
Non-fully evolved Pokémon are | ==Ruleset== | ||
The maximum BST per Pokémon is generally 400, but in games where less than 6 unique Pokémon are available, the limit is adjusted to allow for a full [[party]]. | |||
Non-fully [[Evolution|evolved]] Pokémon (referred to as NFEs) are banned from the challenge starting in [[Generation V]] due to the [[held item]] [[Eviolite]], which causes them to be much bulkier than other Pokémon with similar BSTs. In earlier [[Generation]]s, the usage of NFEs is up to the the player. Some Pokémon, such as {{p|Kadabra}}, have proven to be extremely powerful despite their low stats. Others, such as [[starter Pokémon]], are only available to be used in their first stage, making them an [[experience]] sink that will fall off in the late-game. | |||
Other Pokémon that are typically banned from the challenge include {{p|Shedinja}} and {{p|Wishiwashi}}, due to their [[Ability|Abilities]] {{a|Wonder Guard}} and {{a|Schooling}}, as well as {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Smeargle}}, due to their [[move]]s {{m|Transform}} and {{m|Sketch}}. | |||
All [[Mega Stone]]s are banned, due to [[Mega Evolution]] increasing all applicable Pokémon's BSTs well above the maximum. | |||
Certain near-universal [[TM]]s and [[Move Tutor]]s are potentially banworthy due to trivializing the difficulty by allowing any Pokémon to simply rely on luck or the strength of the opponent. Note that this does not include Pokémon which learn these moves naturally. They are as follows: | |||
* {{m|Bide}} | |||
* {{m|Double Team}} | |||
* {{m|Mimic}} | |||
* {{m|Swagger}} | |||
Additional rules such as item restrictions and [[level]] caps, often seen in [[Nuzlocke Challenge|Nuzlocke]]s, can be applied to this challenge as well. As with any challenge, it is also reccomended that the game be played in Set mode. | |||
==[[Generation I]]== | ==[[Generation I]]== | ||
The following BSTs are calculated on the modern scale by doubling the {{stat|Special}} stat. | |||
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!BST | !BST | ||
!colspan="4" | Game(s) | !colspan="4" | Game(s) | ||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/PE|025Pa|Pikachu}} | |||
|310 | |||
|{{color2|{{red color}}|R}} | |||
|{{color2|{{green color}}|G}} | |||
|{{color2|{{blue color}}|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{yellow color}};" | Y | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/3|083|Farfetch'd}} | |{{MSP/3|083|Farfetch'd}} | ||
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|style="background: #{{yellow color}};" | Y | |style="background: #{{yellow color}};" | Y | ||
|} | |} | ||
The following NFEs are over the maximum BST: | |||
* {{MSP/3|002|Ivysaur}} Ivysaur (405) | |||
* {{MSP/3|044|Gloom}} Gloom (405) | |||
* {{MSP/3|077|Ponyta}} Ponyta (410) | |||
* {{MSP/3|148|Dragonair}} Dragonair (420) | |||
* {{MSP/3|070|Weepinbell}} Weepinbell (430) | |||
* {{MSP/3|064|Kadabra}} Kadabra (450) | |||
* {{MSP/3|093|Haunter}} Haunter (465) | |||
==[[Generation II]]== | ==[[Generation II]]== | ||
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==={{pkmn|Colosseum}}=== | ==={{pkmn|Colosseum}}=== | ||
The maximum BST for this game is 405. | |||
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===[[Kanto]]-based games=== | ===[[Kanto]]-based games=== | ||
The maximum BST for these games is 405. | |||
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==[[Generation IV]]== | ==[[Generation IV]]== | ||
===[[Sinnoh]]-based games=== | ===[[Sinnoh]]-based games=== | ||
Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, {{p|Azumarill}} and {{p|Medicham}} are not listed due to their | Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, {{p|Azumarill}} and {{p|Medicham}} are not listed due to their Abilities, {{a|Huge Power}} and {{a|Pure Power}}, which effectively make their BSTs 460 and 470, respectively. | ||
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|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | ||
|{{color2|{{SoulSilver color}}|SS}} | |{{color2|{{SoulSilver color}}|SS}} | ||
|} | |||
====After entering the [[Hall of Fame]]==== | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin:left; text-align:center" | |||
|- | |||
!Pokémon | |||
!BST | |||
!colspan="2" | Game(s) | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|370|Luvdisc}} | |||
|330 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|327|Spinda}} | |||
|360 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|301|Delcatty}} | |||
|380 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG{{tt|*|Pokéwalker}} | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS{{tt|*|Pokéwalker}} | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|302|Sableye}} | |||
|380 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|{{color2|{{SoulSilver color}}|SS}} | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|303|Mawile}} | |||
|380 | |||
|{{color2|{{HeartGold color}}|HG}} | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|402|Kricketune}} | |||
|384 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|267|Beautifly}} | |||
|385 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|269|Dustox}} | |||
|385 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|313|Volbeat}} | |||
|400 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|314|Illumise}} | |||
|400 | |||
|style="background: #{{HeartGold color}};" | HG | |||
|style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}};" | SS | |||
|} | |} | ||
== | ==Generation V== | ||
Although the maximum BST for these games is 420, {{p|Azumarill}} is not listed due to its | ==={{2v2|Black|White}}=== | ||
The maximum BST for these games is 460. | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin:left; text-align:center" | |||
|- | |||
!Pokémon | |||
!BST | |||
!colspan="2" | Game(s) | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|505|Watchog}} | |||
|420 | |||
|style="background: #{{black color}};" | {{color2|fff|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{white color}};" | W | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|510|Liepard}} | |||
|446 | |||
|style="background: #{{black color}};" | {{color2|fff|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{white color}};" | W | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|528|Swoobat}} | |||
|425 | |||
|style="background: #{{black color}};" | {{color2|fff|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{white color}};" | W | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|531|Audino}} | |||
|445 | |||
|style="background: #{{black color}};" | {{color2|fff|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{white color}};" | W | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|550|Basculin}}{{MSP/3|550B|Basculin}} | |||
|460 | |||
|style="background: #{{black color}};" | {{color2|fff|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{white color}};" | W | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/3|587|Emolga}} | |||
|428 | |||
|style="background: #{{black color}};" | {{color2|fff|B}} | |||
|style="background: #{{white color}};" | W | |||
|} | |||
==={{pkmn|Black and White Versions 2|Black 2 and White 2}}=== | |||
Although the maximum BST for these games is 420, {{p|Azumarill}} is not listed due to its Ability, Huge Power, which effectively makes its BST 460. | |||
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!colspan="2" | Game(s) | !colspan="2" | Game(s) | ||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/6|225|Delibird}} | |||
|330 | |||
|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |||
|style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/6|370|Luvdisc}} | |{{MSP/6|370|Luvdisc}} | ||
|330 | |330 | ||
|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |||
|style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/6|201|Unown}} | |||
|336 | |||
|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | ||
|style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | |style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | ||
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|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | ||
|{{color2|{{Alpha Sapphire color}}|AS}} | |{{color2|{{Alpha Sapphire color}}|AS}} | ||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/6|402|Kricketune}} | |||
|384 | |||
|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |||
|style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/6|269|Dustox}} | |{{MSP/6|269|Dustox}} | ||
|385 | |385 | ||
|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |||
|style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | |||
|- | |||
|{{MSP/6|015|Beedrill}} | |||
|395 | |||
|style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | |style="background: #{{Omega Ruby color}};" | {{color2|fff|OR}} | ||
|style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | |style="background: #{{Alpha Sapphire color}};" | {{color2|fff|AS}} | ||
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==={{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}=== | ==={{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}=== | ||
The maximum BST for this game is 410. | |||
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!BST | !BST | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|201|Unown}} | ||
|336 | |336 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}} | ||
|384 | |384 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|269|Dustox}} | ||
|385 | |385 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|267|Beautifly}} | ||
|395 | |395 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|417|Pachirisu}} | ||
|405 | |405 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|185|Sudowoodo}} | ||
|410 | |410 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{MSP/ | |{{MSP/BDSP|400|Bibarel}} | ||
|410 | |410 | ||
|} | |} | ||
==[[Generation IX]]== | ==[[Generation IX]]== | ||
The maximum BST for these games is 405. | |||
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This page is to document what Pokémon are available during a low-base stat total (referred to as BST) challenge run in various games in the series.
Pokémon that become available after first watching the credits roll are not listed, as they serve no purpose to the challenge. The sole exception to this is HeartGold and SoulSilver, which has the battle with Red atop Mt. Silver.
Ruleset
The maximum BST per Pokémon is generally 400, but in games where less than 6 unique Pokémon are available, the limit is adjusted to allow for a full party.
Non-fully evolved Pokémon (referred to as NFEs) are banned from the challenge starting in Generation V due to the held item Eviolite, which causes them to be much bulkier than other Pokémon with similar BSTs. In earlier Generations, the usage of NFEs is up to the the player. Some Pokémon, such as Kadabra, have proven to be extremely powerful despite their low stats. Others, such as starter Pokémon, are only available to be used in their first stage, making them an experience sink that will fall off in the late-game.
Other Pokémon that are typically banned from the challenge include Shedinja and Wishiwashi, due to their Abilities Wonder Guard and Schooling, as well as Ditto and Smeargle, due to their moves Transform and Sketch.
All Mega Stones are banned, due to Mega Evolution increasing all applicable Pokémon's BSTs well above the maximum.
Certain near-universal TMs and Move Tutors are potentially banworthy due to trivializing the difficulty by allowing any Pokémon to simply rely on luck or the strength of the opponent. Note that this does not include Pokémon which learn these moves naturally. They are as follows:
Additional rules such as item restrictions and level caps, often seen in Nuzlockes, can be applied to this challenge as well. As with any challenge, it is also reccomended that the game be played in Set mode.
Generation I
The following BSTs are calculated on the modern scale by doubling the Special stat.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
310 | R | G | B | Y | |
348 | R | G | B | Y | |
350 | R | G | B | Y | |
370 | R | G | B | Y | |
370 | R | G | B | Y | |
375 | R | G | B | Y | |
375 | R | G | B | Y | |
385 | R | G | B | Y | |
385 | R | G | B | Y | |
393 | R | G | B | Y | |
395 | R | G | B | Y | |
400 | R | G | B | Y |
The following NFEs are over the maximum BST:
Generation II
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
330 | G | S | C | |
336 | G | S | C | |
352 | G | S | C | |
360 | G | S | C | |
380 | G | S | C | |
385 | G | S | C | |
385 | G | S | C | |
385 | G | S | C | |
390 | G | S | C | |
390 | G | S | C | |
390 | G | S | C |
Generation III
Hoenn-based games
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
330 | R | S | E | |
360 | R | S | E | |
375 | R | S | E | |
380 | R | S | E | |
380 | R | S | E | |
380 | R | S | E | |
380 | R | S | E | |
385 | R | S | E | |
385 | R | S | E | |
400 | R | S | E | |
400 | R | S | E | |
400 | R | S | E |
Colosseum
The maximum BST for this game is 405.
Pokémon | BST |
---|---|
330 | |
360 | |
390 | |
390 | |
390 | |
405 | |
405 |
Kanto-based games
The maximum BST for these games is 405.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
352 | FR | LG | |
385 | FR | LG | |
385 | FR | LG | |
385 | FR | LG | |
405 | FR | LG | |
405 | FR | LG |
XD: Gale of Darkness
Pokémon | BST |
---|---|
352 | |
375 | |
380 | |
380 | |
380 | |
385 | |
385 | |
385 | |
390 | |
390 | |
400 |
Generation IV
Sinnoh-based games
Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, Azumarill and Medicham are not listed due to their Abilities, Huge Power and Pure Power, which effectively make their BSTs 460 and 470, respectively.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
336 | D | P | Pt | |
384 | D | P | Pt | |
385 | D | P | Pt | |
385 | D | P | Pt | |
405 | D | P | Pt | |
410 | D | P | Pt | |
410 | D | P | Pt |
Johto-based games
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
330 | HG | SS | |
336 | HG | SS | |
352 | HG | SS | |
380 | HG | SS | |
385 | HG | SS | |
385 | HG | SS | |
390 | HG | SS | |
390 | HG | SS |
After entering the Hall of Fame
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
330 | HG | SS | |
360 | HG | SS | |
380 | HG* | SS* | |
380 | HG | SS | |
380 | HG | SS | |
384 | HG | SS | |
385 | HG | SS | |
385 | HG | SS | |
400 | HG | SS | |
400 | HG | SS |
Generation V
Black and White
The maximum BST for these games is 460.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
420 | B | W | |
446 | B | W | |
425 | B | W | |
445 | B | W | |
460 | B | W | |
428 | B | W |
Black 2 and White 2
Although the maximum BST for these games is 420, Azumarill is not listed due to its Ability, Huge Power, which effectively makes its BST 460.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
330 | B2 | W2 | |
380 | B2 | W2 | |
380 | B2 | W2 | |
413 | B2 | W2 | |
415 | B2 | W2 | |
420 | B2 | W2 | |
420 | B2 | W2 |
Generation VI
Kalos-based games
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
330 | X | Y | |
330 | X | Y | |
352 | X | Y | |
360 | X | Y | |
380 | X | Y | |
380 | X | Y | |
380 | X | Y | |
380 | X | Y | |
390 | X | Y | |
390 | X | Y | |
395 | X | Y | |
395 | X | Y | |
400 | X | Y | |
400 | X | Y |
Hoenn-based games
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
330 | OR | AS | |
330 | OR | AS | |
336 | OR | AS | |
360 | OR | AS | |
380 | OR | AS | |
380 | OR | AS | |
380 | OR | AS | |
380 | OR | AS | |
384 | OR | AS | |
385 | OR | AS | |
395 | OR | AS | |
395 | OR | AS | |
400 | OR | AS | |
400 | OR | AS |
Generation VII
Alola-based games
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
330 | S | M | US | UM | |
330 | S | M | US | UM | |
360 | S | M | US | UM | |
380 | S | M | US | UM | |
380 | S | M | US | UM | |
390 | S | M | US | UM | |
395 | S | M | US | UM | |
400 | S | M | US | UM |
Kanto-based games
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
377 | P | E | |
385 | P | E | |
385 | P | E | |
395 | P | E | |
395 | P | E | |
395 | P | E |
Generation VIII
Galar-based games
Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, Wobbuffet and Pyukumuku are not listed due to being overpowered in their ability to abuse various exploits. Medicham is not listed due to its Ability, Pure Power, which effectively makes its BST 470.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
330 | Sw | Sh | IoA | CT | |
377 | Sw | Sh | IoA* | CT | |
380 | Sw | Sh | IoA | CT | |
380 | Sw | Sh | IoA | CT | |
395 | Sw | Sh | IoA | CT | |
405 | Sw | Sh | IoA | CT | |
410 | Sw | Sh | IoA | CT | |
410 | Sw | Sh | IoA* | CT |
Sinnoh-based games
Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, Medicham is not listed due to its Ability, Pure Power, which effectively makes its BST 470.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|
336 | BD | SP | |
384 | BD | SP | |
385 | BD | SP | |
395 | BD | SP | |
405 | BD | SP | |
410 | BD | SP | |
410 | BD | SP |
Legends: Arceus
The maximum BST for this game is 410.
Pokémon | BST |
---|---|
336 | |
384 | |
385 | |
395 | |
405 | |
410 | |
410 |
Generation IX
The maximum BST for these games is 405.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
330 | S | V | TM | ID | |
330 | S | V | TM | ID | |
380 | S | V | TM | ID | |
384 | S | V | TM | ID | |
400 | S | V | TM | ID | |
404 | S | V | TM | ID | |
405 | S | V | TM | ID |