Talk:Great Marsh

Somebody in the watchtower mentioned that the pokemon that are there seem different today. Is it possible that the pokemon that appear change from day to day?

According to Coronis, yes: the Safari actually works by randomly generating a pokemon from the 'rare' list for each 6 area each day. the same species can appear in more than 1 areas. according to your list, there seem to be 31 holders, and those that appear more than once, like the Sinnoh ones, are less rare, while the post-National dex Kanto/Johto/Hoenn ones, are rarer since they occupy one holder only - 振霖_T 02:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Has anyone done any researching into how the Bait/Mud catching system works? I haven't figured out anything better than just acting randomly, pretty much. Opaopa13 18:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

While playing the game myself, i discovered a rare Carnivine which means that the list of pokemon is incomplete. I added it to the list, but i did not know the percentage. And by the way, throwing bit makes the pokemon less likely to flee but decreases the accuracy of catching it. Throwing mud makes the pokemon more likely to flee, but it increases the accuracy of catching it. CBhadha 21:57, 25 July 2007

It's in the Changing Pokémon section. --Pie ^~♪♫ 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you can get two 'rare' Pokemon on the same day (crogunk and skorupi), and it was my first time at the marsh. Does anybody know anything about this? Verity_Lies

There are a few things that i have found wrong with the lists for platinum i have been able to catch a Carnivine as wall as finding a Skorupi at level 27 even though the range says 20-26, i was also able to find Yanma without it being indicated by the binoculars. I think there may be other anomalies but i haven't encountered them yet. Bonez565 08:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

You might not see Yanma in the binoculars. The article is simply saying that it's the only way of knowing ahead of time, if the binoculars show it. The Yanma would've been there whether you looked or not, but you simply didn't know before going into the Marsh.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 18:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Carvanha?

It's possible to catch Carvanha in the Great Marsh with a super rod. How does that fit in? - - - dra2k4 15:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Magikarp weirdness

Okay, two things: 1--After tracking down Skorupi with the 'scope, the encounter rate in the specific area (6) seemed significantly less than the 10% offered... maybe less than 5%? 2--Most interesting, maybe spotted already but it wasn't posted here (and I do apologize in advance if it was already) but I had beyond abnormal difficulties trying to catch wild Magikarp (area 6 again) Using the good rod, I failed to catch ANY Magikarp (6 of them, aroundabouts) usually got them to 2/3 rolls in the ball before breaking out... but when I used the old rod, a level -4- Magikarp broke out -immediately- of the Safari Ball, and two level 5s were also failed to be caught despite 3 balls thrown at them, each. Well over a dozen balls wasted on them all :/

Yet I caught a level 30 Gyarados on my first try... *shrug*

If it helps any, this was all done around 1am in the morning, on Diamond.

--NotJim 24 December 2007

Umm...Just asking, but: Why are you trying to catch Magikarp in the Great Marsh in the first place? Go to any waterway in the game, whip out the Old/Good Rod, and you can catch a Magikarp the normal way.

As for how many balls it takes to catch a Pokémon: The number (and, outside the Safari-type areas, type) of balls you need to go through is completely random; I caught a Giratina (health in the Yellow area) with a Great Ball, after going through about 10-30 Ultra Balls, while I ALMOST RAN OUT of balls trying to catch Rotom. Diachronos 23:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I tried using ultra balls on a LV. 2 Pidgey. IT WOULDNT WORK. then I tried a regular Poke Ball and "Pidgey was caught!" I dont get it. Ive tried catching other low level-ers with ultra balls and i have the same frusturation. any ideas? Mooites 23:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Huh, say what now?

Why is Carnivine on the list of Pokémon found NORMALLY in the Great Marsh? I thought it was one of them rares. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It sometimes appears without being a rare set for the day. Being a rare set just increases it's chance. Gywall^(Talk) 11:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Bait vs Mud

"If you throw food at Pokémon, it
makes them easier to catch...
But they're also more likely to
bolt when they eat.
If you throw mud at them, they
also get easier to catch...
But they also get more likely to
bolt out of anger.
It's hard to decide what I should
be doing."
-- this is said by a man in the Marsh.

This seems to contradict what is written on this page. Can anyone clear this up for me?
Thanks Tomw 23:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

It's probably a translation error. It's mentioned at the bottom of the page. Flicky1991 19:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Rarity

The percentages for each pokemon to be found can be seen by the output of my Encounters Extraction program. The format is:

Game|Section|Slot|Encounter Type|PokeNatID|MinLevel|<MaxLevel>

Slots are like the following:

Slot 0 - 20%

Slot 1 - 20%

Slot 2 - 10%

Slot 3 - 10%

Slot 4 - 10%

Slot 5 - 10%

Slot 6 - 5%

Slot 7 - 5%

Slot 8 - 4%

Slot 9 - 4%

Slot 10 - 1%

Slot 11 - 1%

Surfing/Fishing

Slot 0 - 60%

Slot 1 - 30%

Slot 2 - 5%

Slot 3 - 4%

Slot 4 - 1%

Sections are as follows where 52 is the Great Mash location.

23,52,"Great Marsh [Area 1]"

24,52,"Great Marsh [Area 2]"

25,52,"Great Marsh [Area 3]"

26,52,"Great Marsh [Area 4]"

27,52,"Great Marsh [Area 5]"

28,52,"Great Marsh [Area 6]"

For slots which say night, day, or something other than grass/surf/rods - These are slot replacements. They replace the pokemon that normally occupies that slot and assumes its rarity.

D|P,23,0,grass,194,24

D|P,23,1,grass,400,25

D|P,23,2,grass,406,24

D|P,23,3,grass,396,26

D|P,23,4,grass,183,25

D|P,23,5,grass,195,25

D|P,23,6,grass,183,26

D|P,23,7,grass,195,26

D|P,23,8,grass,54,26

D|P,23,9,grass,54,24

D|P,23,10,grass,399,26

D|P,23,11,grass,298,24

D|P,23,2,night,163

D|P,23,3,night,164

D|P,23,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,23,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,23,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,23,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,23,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,23,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,23,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,23,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,23,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,23,0,grass,194,28

Pl,23,1,grass,400,28

Pl,23,2,grass,357,28

Pl,23,3,grass,357,30

Pl,23,4,grass,194,29

Pl,23,5,grass,195,30

Pl,23,6,grass,194,28

Pl,23,7,grass,194,30

Pl,23,8,grass,193,30

Pl,23,9,grass,114,30

Pl,23,10,grass,193,31

Pl,23,11,grass,114,31

Pl,23,2,night,164

Pl,23,3,night,164

Pl,23,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,23,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,23,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,23,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,23,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,23,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,23,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,23,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,23,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,23,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,23,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,24,0,grass,194,24

D|P,24,1,grass,400,25

D|P,24,2,grass,406,24

D|P,24,3,grass,396,26

D|P,24,4,grass,183,25

D|P,24,5,grass,195,25

D|P,24,6,grass,183,26

D|P,24,7,grass,195,26

D|P,24,8,grass,54,26

D|P,24,9,grass,54,24

D|P,24,10,grass,399,26

D|P,24,11,grass,298,24

D|P,24,2,night,163

D|P,24,3,night,164

D|P,24,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,24,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,24,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,24,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,24,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,24,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,24,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,24,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,24,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,24,0,grass,194,28

Pl,24,1,grass,400,28

Pl,24,2,grass,357,28

Pl,24,3,grass,357,30

Pl,24,4,grass,194,29

Pl,24,5,grass,195,30

Pl,24,6,grass,194,28

Pl,24,7,grass,194,30

Pl,24,8,grass,193,30

Pl,24,9,grass,114,30

Pl,24,10,grass,193,31

Pl,24,11,grass,114,31

Pl,24,2,night,164

Pl,24,3,night,164

Pl,24,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,24,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,24,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,24,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,24,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,24,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,24,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,24,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,24,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,24,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,24,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,25,0,grass,194,22

D|P,25,1,grass,400,23

D|P,25,2,grass,406,22

D|P,25,3,grass,396,24

D|P,25,4,grass,183,23

D|P,25,5,grass,195,23

D|P,25,6,grass,183,24

D|P,25,7,grass,195,24

D|P,25,8,grass,54,24

D|P,25,9,grass,54,22

D|P,25,10,grass,399,24

D|P,25,11,grass,298,22

D|P,25,2,night,163

D|P,25,3,night,163

D|P,25,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,25,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,25,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,25,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,25,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,25,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,25,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,25,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,25,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,25,0,grass,194,27

Pl,25,1,grass,400,27

Pl,25,2,grass,400,28

Pl,25,3,grass,114,27

Pl,25,4,grass,114,28

Pl,25,5,grass,195,29

Pl,25,6,grass,194,28

Pl,25,7,grass,194,29

Pl,25,8,grass,193,29

Pl,25,9,grass,114,29

Pl,25,10,grass,193,30

Pl,25,11,grass,114,30

Pl,25,2,night,164

Pl,25,3,night,163

Pl,25,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,25,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,25,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,25,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,25,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,25,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,25,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,25,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,25,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,26,0,grass,194,22

D|P,26,1,grass,400,23

D|P,26,2,grass,406,22

D|P,26,3,grass,396,24

D|P,26,4,grass,183,23

D|P,26,5,grass,195,23

D|P,26,6,grass,183,24

D|P,26,7,grass,195,24

D|P,26,8,grass,54,24

D|P,26,9,grass,54,22

D|P,26,10,grass,399,24

D|P,26,11,grass,298,22

D|P,26,2,night,163

D|P,26,3,night,163

D|P,26,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,26,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,26,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,26,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,26,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,26,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,26,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,26,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,26,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,26,0,grass,194,27

Pl,26,1,grass,400,27

Pl,26,2,grass,400,28

Pl,26,3,grass,114,27

Pl,26,4,grass,114,28

Pl,26,5,grass,195,29

Pl,26,6,grass,194,28

Pl,26,7,grass,194,29

Pl,26,8,grass,193,29

Pl,26,9,grass,114,29

Pl,26,10,grass,193,30

Pl,26,11,grass,114,30

Pl,26,2,night,164

Pl,26,3,night,163

Pl,26,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,26,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,26,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,26,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,26,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,26,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,26,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,26,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,26,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,27,0,grass,194,20

D|P,27,1,grass,400,21

D|P,27,2,grass,406,20

D|P,27,3,grass,396,22

D|P,27,4,grass,183,21

D|P,27,5,grass,195,21

D|P,27,6,grass,183,22

D|P,27,7,grass,195,22

D|P,27,8,grass,399,22

D|P,27,9,grass,298,20

D|P,27,10,grass,399,22

D|P,27,11,grass,298,20

D|P,27,2,night,163

D|P,27,3,night,163

D|P,27,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,grass,194,26

Pl,27,1,grass,400,26

Pl,27,2,grass,400,27

Pl,27,3,grass,193,26

Pl,27,4,grass,193,27

Pl,27,5,grass,195,28

Pl,27,6,grass,194,27

Pl,27,7,grass,194,28

Pl,27,8,grass,193,28

Pl,27,9,grass,114,28

Pl,27,10,grass,193,29

Pl,27,11,grass,114,29

Pl,27,2,night,163

Pl,27,3,night,163

Pl,27,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,27,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,27,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,27,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,27,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,27,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,27,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,27,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,27,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,27,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,27,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,27,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,27,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,28,0,grass,194,20

D|P,28,1,grass,400,21

D|P,28,2,grass,406,20

D|P,28,3,grass,396,22

D|P,28,4,grass,183,21

D|P,28,5,grass,195,21

D|P,28,6,grass,183,22

D|P,28,7,grass,195,22

D|P,28,8,grass,54,22

D|P,28,9,grass,54,20

D|P,28,10,grass,399,22

D|P,28,11,grass,298,20

D|P,28,2,night,163

D|P,28,3,night,163

D|P,28,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,28,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,28,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,28,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,28,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,28,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,28,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,28,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,28,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,28,0,grass,194,26

Pl,28,1,grass,400,26

Pl,28,2,grass,400,27

Pl,28,3,grass,193,26

Pl,28,4,grass,193,27

Pl,28,5,grass,195,28

Pl,28,6,grass,194,27

Pl,28,7,grass,194,28

Pl,28,8,grass,193,28

Pl,28,9,grass,114,28

Pl,28,10,grass,193,29

Pl,28,11,grass,114,29

Pl,28,2,night,163

Pl,28,3,night,163

Pl,28,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,28,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,28,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,28,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,28,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,28,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,28,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,28,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,28,4,super-rod,318,40,55

You can tell from this data that there are descrete levels and rarities which change between the different areas. This mistake has been made throughout all of bulbapedia's location project. I will get the daily great marsh zone pokemon rarities later. Sabresite 03:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you put that in the chart format which we have? TTEchidna 03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes when I get time, I will do this. I posted the long spam so that someone who has the time, can do it for me. If a pokemon appears multiple times with the same level, simply add the percentages for each slot and that is the total rarity. Keep in mind that rarity changes from night to day, or with the dongles present. Sabresite 03:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)