Talk:Ethan (game)

Hey, one of his opcional names is "Chris". Haruka uzumaki 16:01, 24 September 2007

Only in Crystal, though. IIMarckus 16:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, as you know, "Chris" can be a guy and a girl's name.--DRAGONBEAST^X 12:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

HGSS

The Sunday preview confirmed him --Nick., something to say? 23:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

ARTWORK

I have a better Artwork for him (i think) should we use this?--DawnXPiplup 09:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

No.--ForceFire 12:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that one is better. It's not as good as quality as the other one. Plus, its jps.--Clarky13 12:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know, the one most people can see now is not the most updated one. I just posted one. Archives has problems again. ^tc²₆tc₂₆ 12:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. Compare the history of this one from the other one. It's different. Admins (or system admins) are dealing with this problem, which we hopefully be fixed soon. Kevzo8 12:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Aside from it being jpg format, which one is the actual picture? Everything's darker in the one already on the article, but the one here looks like what it's supposed to be. R.A. Hunter Blade 12:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

The darker one appears to be a render that somebody uploaded. The most updated version of the file is the official Sugimori artwork as posted on the HG/SS game website. Trainer-c 12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

The part about Gold's pants

It says Gold is the only male player character who wears shorts. This is not true; Brendan wears shorts in Emerald. --Evice 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

It says he's the only male character who doesn't wear long pants. That is different. --Galladeon 04:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes that's true. But under those shorts are pants. --ケンジのガール 05:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

While it is a confusing style choice (and hell for cosplay), Brendan does wear trousers and then shorts on top. They're not long socks, at least from what I can tell. Unless you have some official source which specifically says something about Brendan's choice of lower-half clothing. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 16:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

How exactly can you tell that they aren't long socks? They look like tube socks that are about the same color as his shorts (notice how what you're calling "long pants" aren't as baggy as his pants in Ruby and Sapphire; rather, they're tight like socks). It's not like there aren't socks that are that long. Do you have an official source regarding his clothes? Wearing shorts over long pants isn't exactly common. --Evice 22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a source that they are are tube socks? --PsychicRider ^{T - C} 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

(EC) I've debated it a lot myself, but short of getting some official word on it, it's best to go based on what most people assume it to be at first glance, which seems to be shorts over trousers. I'm really unsure myself, seeing as I don't try and pay all too much attention to it, and my interpretation is also slightly askew because of the manga. This topic is starting to drift away from being related to Gold and more being related to Brendan, so can we either get back onto it, or move this section to Brendan's page. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 23:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

No, but it doesn't look like you have a source saying he's wearing two pairs of pants at the same time, which is more unusual than wearing shorts and long socks. I think they look like socks because whatever he's wearing under his shorts doesn't look like his pants in Ruby and Sapphire, which were baggier and not a solid color. --Evice 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Let's move this elsewhere, ladies. --エルレイド 23:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Could i add this?

One of his pictures features him with a green poké ball. And the same with eusine. Is that good trivia to add.--Pokéboy93 15:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Gold's Gen II sprites

I started up Crystal and got into a battle with Carrie at the Trainer House and Gold's Gold and Silver sprite is used for her (her page mentions using Gold's sprite), despite Gold's own Trainer Card displaying that game's new sprite (shown in the sprites section). Can this usage be mentioned? The only problem is that I haven't been able to confirm how it's used for other Trainer House opponents (such as Cal) as well as during link battles. Does anyone know what the case is with those? --Evice 23:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Cal uses character's sprite because he's a placeholder for a proper player (who the player connects, when he uses IR-DA capabilities of GBC). This is a simply technical limitation. If Cal's gonna be featured in HGSS, then he'll probably have his own sprite (he had his own design in Stadium 2, anyways). --Maxim 06:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't referring to how they use Gold's sprite, I'm talking about how in Crystal they don't use his sprite from that game, instead using his sprite from Gold and Silver. I should have made that more clear. --Evice 14:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

That's something to mention in Cal's article, I think. --Maxim 14:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Evice 02:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Defaults in HGSS

Well, Festa's video shows him having a default name of Hiroki and another as Soul, while Soul gets Miki and Heart. Now, given that's not a guarantee of their names. TTEchidna 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Keep in mind that those Festa videos are using SS and not HG, hence the male character being Soul and the female being Heart, etc.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 07:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think we should wait to see what their names are when they're NPCs (such as how the names for Brendan, May, Dawn, and Lucas come from the names used as NPCs). Unless of course Game Freak doesn't give them set names like previous opposite-gender characters (I guess there isn't anything stopping Game Freak from doing that). --Evice 17:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Pointless trivia I noticed

Gold appears to be the only player character (at least the only male player character) to wear his headgear (in this case, a baseball cap) backward. (I'm only counting game characters, since Red's Pokémon Adventures counterpart wears his hat like this in the chapters based on Generation I.) Can this be added? --Evice 17:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

In the Trivia section...

"All female player characters either wear a skirt (Leaf and Dawn) or cycling shorts (Kris, May, and Soul)."

What the crap is that supposed to mean?--Dark ICE (User:Cold)^{(page, talk)} 21:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

It does not sound that important to me.--Midnight Blue 21:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not. First it's talking about guys, then it's talking about girls. (Kinda like most of the boys at my school.) Could an admin please take it off?--Dark ICE (User:Cold)^{(page, talk)} 21:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I was talking about why is that in there. That trivia would make more sense if there were like 10-20 girls in the games. And yes why is/was it on a boy's page?--Midnight Blue 00:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

B/c this is protected

Can someone put this trivia in. "Gold is the only male player not to have a "common" name." Red is a name but not as common as Brenden and Lucas.--Midnight Blue 23:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hibiki?

Since the girl was confirmed to be Kotone, why isn't Gold's article moved to Hibiki. It was shown on the PokeGear screen referring to him as such and doesn't seem likely the opposite gender character is nameable.

And the girl is Kotone, not Hibiki. - unsigned comment from Raine (talk • contribs)

It could of been one of the default names or the person who was playing the game named it. Therefore, Hibiki is not his real name just wait for the games to come out. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 00:55, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, but the girl was the player during the time. (When Shoko was playing HG.)

It wasn't referring to the player character since it was on the Phone List.--Raine 00:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

The player's mom refers to a friend named Hibiki while playing as the girl, so it must indeed be his NPC name. See here: [1]. This also matches Kotone's name (which means "koto sound" [2]), since it means echo, sound, reverberation, noise. Capsule Computer 08:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

So... since Hibiki has been confirmed to be his official name, shouldn't the page be renamed Hibiki (game), and "Gold (game)" can redirect here? FireMeowth 14:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

If anything, the page should be split with all Gen II info remaining here, and all Gen IV info on a new page. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 15:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, new information generally replaces old information, and he was never formally called Gold in the Generation II games, so... I think we whould move this to Hibiki (game). It may be stated in the page that he used to be known as Gold before Generation IV. - D-Wheel 17:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

We didn't rename Blue's article to Green when FRLG were released. So should we change this article's name? - Crystal Master 21:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Cause people hate Kotone's name. That's the only reason it is an issue. They figure since she can't be Soul, Gold should be Hibiki. --ケンジのガール 21:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I thought that it was because Blue's NPC Appearance trumps his Rival Appearance, since the player can still name him in FRLG. If he's "Green" in HGSS (outside Japan, anyway), then I think he should be moved to Green. Thus, I think Gold should be moved to Hibiki... once we get his English Name, anyway.--Purimpopoie 21:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

It's not just because of that, Kenji-girl. I liked Kotone's actual name better than Soul. We didn't rename Blue because that's the only way he was formally referred to in the games. Even with FRLG released, he was never called Green. Hibiki was never formally called Gold in the games, and now he's being clearly called Hibiki. So, I think that's it. - D-Wheel 22:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

So you're saying that the GS protagonist had no name until Game Freak created the remakes? I find that pretty bizarre, considering that the Crystal girl HAD a name. - Crystal Master 22:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

He had no in-game name. Now it was confirmed to be Hibiki, so... - D-Wheel 22:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

But he must have had a official name, seeing how Kris had one - Crystal Master 23:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

"Kris" does not have an official in-game name. The only official names she's got are are the ones from the anime and manga. Remember - official names =/= default names. FireMeowth 10:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Wrong. The back of the Pokémon Crystal box calls her "Kris". Specifically, it says "New female trainer Kris faces the Unown" [3]. - Crystal Master 19:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

"while in HeartGold and SoulSilver his female counterpart is Kotone. If one is to choose play as Kotone, Gold will still appear as an NPC, with the name Hibiki." Yes? No? ~m190049^~talk 22:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

While I do believe his name is Hibiki, I'm not sure it should be moved quite yet, not until the English Version is released, because as unlikely as it could be, what if the PCI decides to name Hibiki, Gold? We would've changed his name basically just because his Japanese name is Hibiki. I think a note or something would be best at this time. --Dman dustin 17:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, guys. Here's a solution. We have a perfectly fine English name for the guy. Why move it to a Japanese name that's gonna get changed anyway in six months? Like with Blue, we should wait for the English release, and then wait until the teams get ripped and see what the "true name" is of this guy. TTEchidna 22:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't we at least give his Japanese name as Hibiki? It still gives his Japanese name as Gold and never mentions the name Hibiki. --Evice 19:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

We should. And we should move the page. That "we'll have to move his page someday anyway" argument is stupid. Such things happen. And what's wrong? Is this so much of a deal to change the links. Having him under "Gold" is stupid and unreasonable now. As of now, this name is just a mere fanname. Same goes for Pearl. "It's too late" argument isn't really right. It's not the policy that we should go by. Pearl's name is Barry and Gold's (Japanese) name is Hibiki. Bear with it. --Maxim 11:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

apparently, hibiki also means echo, sound, or noise vik0z0z 19:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Maxim: If Gold is just a "fanname" like you say, then what was this guy's real name during the 2nd gen? Again, I don't buy that he was a nameless character, seeing how his original female counterpart, the Crystal girl, had a official name [4]. And for that matter, is the name we use for the GSC rival, Silver, a "fanname", too? - Crystal Master 01:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)