Talk:Umbreon (Pokémon)

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Evolve Eevee?

The article writes that you can get an Umbreon in FR/LG by evolving an Eevee. Where does one get the moon shard? How can one evolve an Eevee in FR/LG without it because I'm not sure there is one in the game. Harvestdancer 21:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Moon Shard? Only in XD: Gale of Darkness, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid you can't get an Umbreon in FireRed/LeafGreen without trading it over to Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald and evolving it there.

Espeon works pretty much the same way, only involving the opposite timeframes and the Sun Shard instead of the Moon Shard. --Shiningpikablu252 21:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

What would happen if you chose the Moon Shard, then waited until you could trade, had a Pokémon hold the Moon Shard, and traded it to FRLGE? --Shiny Noctowl 21:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

The Moon Shard is a key item. It can't be held. --Shiningpikablu252 00:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the page say "trade" instead of "evolve" then for FR/LG? Harvestdancer 17:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Not really. You can get Eevee, even if you can't evolve it within FRLG. TTEchidna 02:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I meant for Umbreon (and Espeon) shouldn't FR/LG say "trade"? Harvestdancer 03:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, you can get the Eevee just fine... You may have to trade to evolve it, but does it say that for a Pokémon like Rhyhorn or Graveler? TTEchidna 03:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Argh no! Graveler, for example, it says can be acquired by evolving a geodude or catching a graveler, but Golem can only be acquired through trade. It says so in the Golem article.

According to the above discusison, the only way to get an Umbreon is through trade. You can't evolve it. You need to evolve it at night, which doesn't happen in FR/LG, or with a moon shard, which you can't get at all in FR/LG and can't trade over as a held item because it's a key item. Therefore you cannot, when playing FR/LG, evolve an Eevee into an Umbreon.

Since you can't evolve an Eevee into an Umbreon in FR/LG, but can get an Umbreon through trade, shouldn't the article say you can get it through trade instead of evolution? Harvestdancer 15:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

All of the trade-evo ones I checked say "evolve (prevo)". The method, of course, is stated in the evo box. The point is that you can get Espeon/Umbreon by evolving the Eevee you get in FRLG, no matter that you have to trade it to another game to get the job done. It's like Machamp or Scizor. You can get the Machoke and Scyther in FRLG, but they don't evolve unless they get traded to another game, then traded back. Sure, it's a tiny bit more complicated with Eevee, but it's still the same concept. The trivia section, of course, should have that you can't evolve it because of no day/night function in FRLG, but that's one of the games you can actually get an Eevee in. TTEchidna 11:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

So do you just level up eevees with max happiness during the tides on emerald? If so, which would eveolve on high tide?--Ace 17:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Psychic mention?

Is it worth mentioning specifically how it can learn psychic in the trivia section? A pure dark pokemon being able to learn psychic would seem fairly note-worthy. Prophaniti 15:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Honchkrow Is also a Dark type that can learn Psychic. To be honest, I don't really think it belongs in the Article. Dean

Sounds notable enough for me.Honchrow is not pure DarkGood Day;DCM

...I didn't know being a flying time allows Honchkrow to learn Psychic attacks...PDL 14:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any notability in it. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 14:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Darkrai, Sableye and it's rip-off Spiritomb, Honchkrow are the other dark types capable of learning Psychic. 5/23 dark types is a fair few. I'd not call it notable enough. Gywall^(Talk) 14:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Added note: Damn you fiddler, I had to find this again! Gywall^(Talk) 14:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Sun/Moon Shard

I just changed the Moon/Sun Shard links in the Espeon, Umbreon and List of Pokémon with branched evolutions pages so that they link to the appropriate sections of the List of key items in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness page, rather than the Evolutionary stone page that doesn't mention them at all. Is there a way to make a search for Moon Shard/Sun Shard redirect to said page? It's rather useless having it redirect to the stone page (as it does now) when the page doesn't even say anything about them. It took me forever to find ANY mention of these shards in the wiki because of this. I was starting to think they were typos. --MASLEGOMAN 20:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I've changed them. In future please add comments to the bottom of a page, rather than into the middle of a three year old conversation. Werdnae (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

wrong wikipedia entry

On the origin section, the wikipedia enty for moon rabbit led to Moon Rabbit, not Moon rabbit like its supposed to. i just fixed it. can someone tell me if i was supposed to fix it? Jaller95 16:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

If it didn't link to the proper Wikipedia article, then yes, you were supposed to change it :) --PhantomJunkie 16:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Note Worthy?

Is it worth mentioning that Umbreon and Espeon are the only eeveelutions that share an ability?----XD00153 (tAlk) 00:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

dude..fix your sig..please.... and maybe Ataro 00:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I'm not that great at sigs.----XD00153 (tAlk) 00:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Another question on noteworthiness, is it worth mentioning that the minimum level for Umbreon is 2, and that the best way to get a lvl 2 umbreon is to hatch an eevee egg, then work it's happiness over a few days by massages, haircuts, and long bicycle walks while watching tv? Also, if it is, you should mention that you should save progress before any attempt to evolve a lvl 2 umbreon to be sure the happiness level is high enough. (Crystufer I don't know bbcode. Sorry.) - unsigned comment from Crystufer (talk • contribs)

First of all, signing your posts is done by typing four tildes (~). It's that easy, and there's even a shortcut for it on the toolbar above the edit box, and on the character palette below it.

Secondly, the minimum level trivia you suggested is NOT noteworthy. The same could be said for Espeon, Leafeon, Glaceon, and any other Pokémon which needs to level up to evolve. As for your info on how to evolve it at level 2, we aren't a strategy guide. Anyone who wants to know methods for increasing happiness can check the Happiness page, which is handily linked to from the evolution box. --Andy^P_K^M_N 18:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Shiny Umbreon Sprite

I've got a Shiny Umbreon in HeartGold and want to put the shiny version in the template, but how to do so? YoshisWorld 22:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)YoshisWorld

Umber

It states in the name origin section that it could come from umber, but i studied Umbreon's pictures, and it seemed closer to a very dark blue than a very dark brown. I'm removing this, because as likely as it seems, it's not really true. EvilKirikizan speaking! 02:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

The umber thing came back. I have already removed it for the same reason you did. Harrylane4 03:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)Harrylane4

A ten second analysis by one user isn't enough to throw away the most likely reason. Even if it looks slightly bluer, Umber is the most likely source of the name. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 22:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Anime

Is it worth mentioning that despite Umbreon being the first Dark-type Pokémon in National Dex order, in the anime, no Umbreon is ever seen using a Dark-type move? Iml908 (talk) 19:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't see what it being the first one has anything to do with it, but I guess the second part is worth mentioning. --Pokemaster97 19:59, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect statement in Special Abilities.

"Umbreon can spray a poisonous sweat whenever it gets agitated. Its golden bands glow, allowing it to use moves such as Flash. As a Dark-type Pokémon, Umbreon can learn several moves with various disruptive effects, such as Taunt, Snatch or Thief."

Umbreon can not learn Thief in any generation. Vinven (talk) 06:43, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome to make the edit yourself. Be bold! MF231 00:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Trivia on Synchronize

Is Umbreon the only Pokémon with the Ability of Synchronize that is not Psychic type (its type is Dark)? Is it notable or too small of a group to note/unnotable? --Cinday123 (Talk) 04:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

It's easily visible on the page for Synchronize, so it's not notable. Crystal Talian 04:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Crystal, I'll be careful when I'm adding trivia that would be otherwise not notable. --Cinday123 (Talk) 05:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Inconclusive

About the Anime's lack of Umbreon using Dark Type Moves, Gary's Umbreon used Hidden Power, meaning that information can't be confirmed.--Benayla (talk) 08:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hidden Power inflicts damage using a type and power determined by the user's IVs. The power varies between 31 and 70 in Generation II, and varies between 30 and 70 in Generations III to V.

As far as anime goes, anime does not necessarily equal game in terms of how things are applied. Therefore, we don't see it as anything beyond a Normal-type move. As such, the statement of not using Dark-type moves applies. CycloneGU (talk) 14:11, 15 September 2016 (UTC)