User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 3

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User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1 (archived on November 5, 2015)

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Mr.Mime (cont.)

I couldn't continue to talk because you have archived it. The point I want to say or hope that I don't understand is, Ash caught Mr.Mime in It's Mr.Mime Time, which is a fully evolved Pokémon. That means he caught it prior to Beedrill, but why didn't you add Mr.Mime instead of Beedrill in the trivia, and also it is 1031 episodes earlier. - unsigned comment from Dhiwakar (talk • contribs)

Why would before be notable? It isn't the last fully evolved Pokémon before Dragonite, and it's not a member of a three-stage family. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I understand it now and thank you FinnishPokéFan92 Dhiwakar (talk) 02:58, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

New page

Why can't I create new pages,or why does it say you are denied permission to create a new page? - unsigned comment from Dhiwakar (talk • contribs)

Like I said before, please talk to an admin about things that trouble you. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 04:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you FinnishPokéFan92. --Dhiwakar (talk) 14:51, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Not sure why you couldn't answer this question, Finnish, when you know the answer to it. In any case, Dhiwakar, you can't create new pages because you are not autoconfirmed. To be autoconfirmed, you have to be a user for some time and make a certain number of edits.--ForceFire 15:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

My apologies, FF. I guess I just figured he should ask from a person whose job it basically is to answer to any questions new users may have. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Notability requirement?

Hi, you reverted my edit on the Pokemon HQ Lab page for not being notable enough.

I checked the wiki rules for notability requirements and the only rule I see on notability is this one: "All English and Japanese Pokémon canon material is notable and relevant."

From this page: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Notability_requirements

As this is an encyclopedia, I feel it could be useful - perhaps not to every user, but to some - to have a comprehensive list of Trainers and their Pokemon's movesets. The next battle in the game is the first Chobin battle, and that one Pokemon and one move has its own block there. Later on in the Pokemon HQ Lab page, the battle with Spy Naps is listed along with his Shadow Teddiursa's moves, even though he can never actually use any of them. So, I don't understand where the notability requirement comes in, and it seems inconsistent - is there a policy I'm not aware of? I'm new here.ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 08:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

He isn't notable enough to receive a detailed list of movesets and Abilities. That's what I meant. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I understood that, but my question is: why not? Or to put it another way, what's the harm in adding more detailed information on Trainer encounters? As I noted above, there are other Trainers from this game that are given a detailed list of moves and abilities when they arguably don't need them either. I don't see why it has to be removed for not being notable enough if it's factual information about the games and it's something players might encounter or find useful. ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 10:58, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Bulbapedia doesn't see it necessary for adding detailed party info for less notable Trainers. It would easily end up taking too much space if they were added for everyone. I'm pretty sure all party templates we have on location articles are all for Trainers who are notable in some way. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Too much space on the wiki servers or too much space on the page? You have two subpages on your user page relating to your Pokemon teams which use those templates several dozen times, so I'm assuming it's not a wiki space issue. Does more detailed information need to be posted on a subpage for the article, if it's added? --ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 11:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Too much space on the page. Would be inconvenient. Important Trainers are usually ones who have a notable role in the story or are major bosses, like your rivals, Gym Leaders, or villainous team leaders. I recommend you contact an admin, because that's about the best explanation I can come up with at the moment. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I've done so, it seems prudent to get a proper understanding of how to add this information before I continue doing so. Thanks for the response. --ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

No problem. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Template:Drinks

I don't think the drinks are really all that related. Fresh Water, Soda Pop, and Lemonade are related and all can be purchased from vending machines, but the other three really aren't. MooMoo Milk at least can be purchased from vending machines in Orre, but otherwise isn't that similar. The only thing Tea has in common with them is that it replaces the role of the vending machine drinks for satisfying the Saffron guards. Berry Juice just has nothing in common with the others at all.

As a result, personally I'd rather just delete the template entirely and leave "See also" links between the three vending machine drinks. If you would like to make a case for why there should be navigation between them though, please go ahead. --SnorlaxMonster 09:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Sounds sensible to me. I think I'll make the template exclusive to the vending machine drinks. How does that sound? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

My one concern with doing that is that I would want to put the "Vending Machine drinks" as the nav header, but then MooMoo Milk would also be in that category, but only in Colosseum and XD. Which is why I think just "See also" links rather than a formal Nav template would be better. --SnorlaxMonster 11:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hmmm... Yeah. You're probably right. Could you delete the template for me? Also, should I add all the drinks there, or Tea and maybe also Berry Juice? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Just the three main vending machine drinks should have "See also" links to each other, I think. --SnorlaxMonster 12:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Itemlist/2

Please don't use {{Itemlist/2}} (or 3) for cases like Gym rewards where you receive both at once. That's not what it's meant for and having different uses in different places will only be confusing.

The template is only meant for items that can randomly change. I.e., where you only get one item at a time, and the next day or something you may get something else (and where it's not convenient to separate those out to their own lists like Fishing items or something). Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:53, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

To me, it seems perfectly usable outside of randomly changing items too. And Chosen seems to agree with me. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

You missed a big point. It's meant for one thing. Using it for something completely opposite is terribly confusing. Please do not. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:04, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I just tried to improvise. And to be honest, I still fail to see what's wrong with this way of using it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

(Sorry, I didn't think you necessarily wanted a response.) We can look at Axew's Eye for a fairly simple example.

In the uses you were putting it to, when you talk to one person, you get multiple items at once, like a TM and a uniform. If someone sees that and then comes to Axew's Eye, they would think that, oh, looks like if I look around the northwest shore, I can get a Pearl, Big Pearl, AND Pearl String (and a second Pearl and Big Pearl).

But, no, I made the template so that we could much more easily link those items in the Wild Area that can regenerate as different things for the same spot (like a Pearl OR a Big Pearl OR a Pearl String).

Do you see that these uses are completely opposite? Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Kinda. I guess I'll be okay with this now. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Sword/Shield plot

If you'd like, you can adapt the plot summary you posted here for the main Pokémon Sword and Shield page. --Abcboy (talk) 23:05, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. I may very well do so. Thanks! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 05:49, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

"I don't think these description are overly necessary."

Hi, I made a description about Bea and her Pokémon on her page. Why was it not approved? I mean, her anime category is extremely reduced, and the episode showed a lot of her personality and her Pokémon. Isn't the goal to have a wiki with complete and (if) possible detailed information about each element of the franchise? The greatest merit of Twilight Wings is precisely that he is giving depth to some characters. Well, I don't know, you've been in this for longer than me. --Hilaru Wazana (talk) 16:58, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

I readded the character section with a new description. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Oh, Ok. Thanks. :D --Hilaru Wazana (talk) 20:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Do not revert my edits with no reason

If you're going to revert my edits, give a good reason for doing so. Randomly reverting edits without so much as giving an edit reason is uncivil behavior. Besides, there was nothing wrong with the edits—so why did you do that? --Dada (talk) 16:46, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

I see you also reverted this change I made without reason. If you believe I was wrong, say so in the edit description. However in this case the reason why I made this edit is because the wallbreaking only occurs in the English dub and not in the Japanese original. So if you're going to move it back to "trivia" the least you could do is make it say "in the English dub,". --Dada (talk) 16:49, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

The first one was because characters of the day aren't listed as debuts, splitting the double character link was unnecessary, and the last sentence didn't need to be split away from the big paragraph. The second one was because fourth wall breaks are listed in the trivia section, even if they're dub only. Also, be aware that you can edit the whole page at once instead of just one section at a time. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:23, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Here's the problem: when you removed all my edits, without edit reason or anything, you seem to have deleted more than you intended, judging on your message here. That's why I edit sections at a time instead of the whole page: because it allows me to explain the purpose of each edit.

Next time, use an edit reason instead of treating me like I'm a spambot whose content can just be thrown out like garbage. It's only a basic courtesy towards your fellow editors, all of whom are here in our spare time. I understand that this is a wiki and everything we write here is going to be edited by others, but giving a reason for it is only a basic thing. And not to mention, if you don't do that, the only thing that will happen is I'll edit it back in because I can't understand the reason why you removed it.

The things you did not acknowledge:

1) your revert on DP104. Can you at least just admit that you should've added "in the dub only" to that sentence, and that reverting it with no edit reason and no message either on my talk page or on the talk page of the article is incredibly suspicious?

2) you removed my addition regarding the conversation Delia has with Ash, and you removed my addition on line 129 regarding the title card. That's why you should not carelessly be reverting entire pages. You removed content that you didn't intend to remove. You apparently did that just because one sentence was split off from the rest. Did you not notice you removed those other things too?

3) I also removed a line in the errors section because it wasn't an error. You didn't mention any reason for removing it just now, so I'm assuming you also put that back in without realizing it by reverting the whole page.

It's difficult to assume good faith when you're just removing entire edits with apparently not having any reason for it. Please don't do it again and be careful next time, and if you're going to revert anything, make sure it's for a valid reason. I would absolutely do the same thing for you, and I don't think I'm being unreasonable here by asking that you do the same thing. --Dada (talk) 14:33, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I didn't mean to treat you as a spambot. If I came off like that to you, I apologize, it wasn't my intention. And more often than not, I do acknowledge the reason for my edit reversions in the edit summary. Sorry for not doing that to your edits. It's also not unusual here at Bulbapedia to remove entire big edits, even if one of the done edits happened to be correct. I don't want us to be treat each other as unpleasant people, so I apologize for upsetting you, and, from now on, I'll try being more clear about why I alter or remove your edits, if I ever do. PS. Your post is really impressive. My hat's off to your dedication. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:36, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I apologize for coming on so strongly to you. I understand that some of my edits were not correct and that you were fixing the page by removing them. I'll keep that in mind from now on. I've also been told that section editing is dispreferred to full page editing if there are multiple edits to make, so I'll refrain from doing that as well. Thanks for understanding my view on this. --Dada (talk) 15:36, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm glad we were able to resolve this peacefully. You're welcome. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:39, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Morty's Gengar

Can you tell me what's missing on that Morty's Gengar page? I take the opportunity and ask what's missing from the Red's Charizard page too. They put a huge banner to say that the page is wrong, but they do not edit or say what is missing. I'm trying to fix it, but I don't see anything different from other pages there.Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:12, 07 March 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup does not equal incomplete. It simply means the text quality in the page needs improving, not that it would necessarily be missing anything. That's what the incomplete template is for. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

"This article is for the anime tournaments only."

Pokémon League Conference Ok, Where do I put information about manga tournaments? I was going to try to set up a table like the one for the leagues that happened there.-- Hikaru Wazana (talk19:15, 01 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't personally think we need those. Maybe ask an admin? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I thought you were an adm. Okay, who is the person who has to talk about it?-- Hikaru Wazana (talk22:44, 01 April 2020 (UTC)

You can recognize admins from the symbols visible at "Recent Changes". And I don't think there's a designated admin to talk about this. Like I said earlier, personally, I don't this tournament info is needed on Bulbapedia, but you can always create it in a user subpage for yourself and ask an admin like Force Fire if it's worth mainspacing. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 06:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Changing links

The reason why I am changing the link to the video is because that original link you added back is actually my Facebook. I know that I have other links to my facebook with additional information which I believe to be important, but I feel a little more comfortable if the links were less from my facebook and more towards YouTube as I don't want to attract random strangers trying to add me. The video of Eric Stuart giving his answer is still on that video in the link I added, and I allowed the maker of the video to use it in his video that is actually meant to go in dept and is educational.TheGreenBeetle (talk) 15:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Understood. Sorry for the trouble. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Ash Team Page

Make your page however you want, but Charizard was caught before Squirtle and in the battle against Drake Charizard used Flamethrower, Ember, Seismic Toss, and Dragon Rage. If you want to keep it inconsistent/inaccurate I won't touch it.--Rahl (talk) 16:59, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing those out! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure thing!--Rahl (talk) 17:11, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Whoops! I didn't notice your edits and accidentally reversed some of them! Sorry! Feel free to fix them! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Galar League Logo Picture SM128

I have a screenshot of that one Easter egg I mentioned in SM128. How can I show it to you? Last time I went to add a picture to the Bulbagarden Archives as I wasn't a confirmed user or something. How do I change that if at all? BlazeFire (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

You can also post the image on postimage.org. You can post images there without the need to register in or anything. Just put it there and send me the link. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

I forget about Imgur! https://imgur.com/a/gAaA2W0 But still, how do you get you account confirmed and able to add pictures to the master gallary if need be? BlazeFire (talk) 00:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC) Just a follow up; I'm quite confident this was intended to be easter egg. Both the symbol on the bag and the official Galar League symbol depict a Pokeball with a red top and a blue bottom at the same slant. It was also shown subtly and more importantly, on the first episode of a league arc that first aired in Japan during the SwSh hype season. BlazeFire (talk) 00:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Edits

Hello !!

Have you planned on removing all my edits ? Cause it's been a few years I've been editing. You're not an admin to do so ?! Jeangabin666 (talk) 11:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)