Talk:Extraterrestrial Pokémon

Rumored?

I think there was one episode that showed clefairy in a meteor/rocket, and didn't lunatone and solrock come from a meteor? S and T 16:24, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Lunatone and Solrock's Pokedex entries state that they are rumoured to come from a space, so while it is obvious that they are offworld, they should be kept in the rumoured section for now. As for Clefairy, they should probably be in the confirmed section, due to that spaceship and launch station they built. XVuvuzela2010X 16:31, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

About clefairy, I meant the episode Clefairy and the Moon Stone. S and T 16:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Jirachi

Jirachi has strong ties with comets, and I think it might have been said to be from outer space. Should it be included? S and T 16:32, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

This page is still young, so there are a number of Pokemon like Jirachi that need to be added, namely Arceus, Giratina, Unown, Palkia, Dialga. XVuvuzela2010X 16:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Yuxie, Mesprit, and Azelf may need a mention too. And Registeel's Dex entries imply it is offworld, which by extension could include the other three Regi's. XVuvuzela2010X 16:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we should include Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, or Unown. They're from a different dimension, not outer space. Chiramii *** Talk 16:47, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Well this page is for Extraterrestrial Pokemon, so there is no reason not to include them. XVuvuzela2010X 16:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf

...have a section with no data at all. We should add some data; I would, but I didn't put in the section and I'm still not clear on why it's there. EvilKirikizan 03:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Update! I just realized Jirachi has the same situation. Just felt like that should be noted too. EvilKirikizan 03:08, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Kyurem Evidence

Should Kyurem really be in the Known section? I mean, it's only in legend that it came from outer space like Clefairy, there's no actual info confirming that Kyurem actually came from outer space, is there? Bolter1 01:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Sableye?

I think Sableye might deserve a mention in this article. He's based off of an alien, although they don't mention his origins in any of the games or anime. I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to say he's extraterrestrial. However, there's no evidence besides his origin so I'm not really sure if or how this could be added. I thought it deserved a mention anyways. Flintlock (talk) 19:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Sigilyph?

Sigilyph is an enigma on the planet where all the games take place, right? Well, Sigilyph might be extraterrestial! Few people know its origin*, and while Elgyem, Beheeyem, and Kyurem can't learn Cosmic Power, Sigilyph can. For now, just put it in Weak Evidence, OK? KirbyRider (talk) 08:17, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Nothing states that they came from space or another planet though. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Sigilyph learns Cosmic Power, and it looks very little like Earth life. KirbyRider (talk) 22:46, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

About half of the 649 Pokémon would fit your "very little like earth life" description. Sigilyph doesn't have any evidence in game or in the naime that says it is an extra terrestrial being. Cosmic Power does not necessarily mean it is an extraterrestrial being, especially if Elgyem (who is an extra terrestrial being) can't learn it, throwing that case out of the window.--ForceFire 02:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Type or typing?

I can't decide whatever we can revert it or not even saying "type" makes sense, so please know whatever we can keep the word "typing" whatsoever. --Cinday123 (Talk) 08:21, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't really understand, but...

"Psychic-type" was wrong, period. "Type" should be the noun with "Psychic" describing it. But that's easily fixed. However, to say "It shares its Psychic type with other[s]" sounds weird...Celebi doesn't share its Psychic type. It shares with others the Psychic type that it was assigned. IMO, "Psychic typing" has less potential for confusion. ...And that's beside the fact that I simply don't consider "typing" to be "wrong", so I do not consider that part of the original edit necessary in the first place. Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

"It shares the Psychic type" would be better all around. Avoids both "typing" and "its Psychic type". Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 08:38, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Clefairy should confirmed

in season one episode 62 the cleafairy fell from the sky in a flying saucer I would say this warrants them to be in the confirmed from space list - unsigned comment from Bpopbpo (talk • contribs)

The anime is its own canon and does not confirm anything. And please sign comments with four tildes, please. Ataro (talk) 03:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Gen VI only Gen not to introduce Extraterrestial Pokémon?

Should some mention be made that Gen VI didn't introduce a Extraterrestial Pokémon? Yamitora1 (talk) 21:16, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Considering this page is mostly guess work and barely any of it is 100% confirmed, mostly teased by dex entries and NPC's, I wouldn't be sure if that's a great idea. Maybe ask someone who knows more about notability than me though XD----BigBadBatter 21:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Nah, saying Gen VI didn't would imply Gens I and V did, when we don't have actual proof that they did. glik^glak 21:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I should have said Extraterrestial and Extra-dimensional. Anyways each gen has introduced at least one of the two, either confirmed, rumored or fan-speculatorly. Whereas Gen VI did not introduce even an extra-dimensional Pokémon. While its true the other Gens did not always introduce a extraterrestrial such as Deoxys, most have all introduced a Pokémnon which lives in or can live in a different dimension. Yamitora1 (talk) 22:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

We still have no actual proof that any extraterrestrial or extradimensional Pokemon exist aside from those listed under "known". Just because some are speculated for Gens I and V doesn't mean we can say Gen VI is the only one that didn't. Speculation can be (and usually is) wrong. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

No, but we can say its the only one not to introduce any Pokémon that could in some way be, that is the point I am making here.

There isn't one Gen VI Pokémon rumored or otherwise that fits the bill like the other Generations. Gen I has the Clafariy line and Gen V the Elgyem line for example of strong evidence of being E.T. Gen II has the Unown which come from another dimension. Gen III Deoxys who is verified from space, and Jirachi believed to be from space. Gen IV has the creation trio and Arceus, all extra dimensional beings and verified as well. What does Gen VI have? nothing. No aliens, no beings from another dimension, nothing... The other gens at least had fodder for E.T. and the stuff. Yamitora1 (talk) 23:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Strongly justified speculation is still speculation until explicit confirmation is given. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

and a rose by any other name is still a rose; however, the fact of the matter still remains the same. Thus far, Gen VI has not delivered any Pokémon that could fit on this page.

And what happens if one is revealed; is it going to be deny its place on the article because it is considered "Speculation"? Why even have an article for this in the first place if that is the case?

"No that can't be added because its too much on the speculation side, or is just fannon fodder." That is like having a boy's club and turning away a new member for being a girl or too girly, but you all take turns dressing up like a girl; which leads to years of therapy, due to forming a deep rooted sexual identity issue that has effected your every day life.

Again, if you don't want to add on-topic info, than there might as well be no article to begin with. Yamitora1 (talk) 00:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

You're not wanting to add on-topic information, you're wanting to create a fact out of speculation. We allow sufficiently supported speculation on this page, but make it very clear that it's not fact. So it's wrong to say absolutely that there is no evidence for any Gen VI Pokémon; there's simply not enough evidence for us. I guarantee there's someone who thinks Swirlix comes from outer space; for them, there is strong enough evidence. Saying "No Gen VI Pokémon fits our standards for this page" is neither notable nor professional. glik^glak 01:03, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Gen VI Clarification

It has been confirmed Rayquaza lives off the power granted by the meteors/meteorites it eats and it came from a meteorite itself Also, Should Hoopa be put in the Rumored Extradimensional? It's never stated to be, but... Darre (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

I added an entire section for additional cases like Hoopa. --LavaringX (talk) 02:28, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Minior

I added an entire section for rumored, unclear, or psuedo-extraterrestrial pokémon like Minior and Hoopa. I also mentioned the presence of known terrestrial pokémon appearing offworld in the Ultra Space Wilds. --LavaringX (talk) 02:29, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Ultra Ruin

I twice attempted to add Ultra Ruin's existence as evidence for Ultra Space possibly being an alternate version of the pokémon world itself, but both times it was deleted. I understand it can be considered extraneous, but I do not think it is, the evidence feels baseless without mentioning it (like a little kid who puts information in a paper but doesn't cite it). Please tell me why it is continually deleted so we can resolve this without an edit war. --LavaringX (talk) 04:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Bulbapedia isn't a paper; it's an encyclopedia with hyperlinks, so information can be "cited" on a clearly hyperlinked article instead of cluttering up this page. There's a link to Ultra Space in that paragraph, so readers can go there to read about Ultra Space, hence why I said repeatedly in my edit summaries that the Ultra Space article is the best place for you to put that information. The speculation that Ultra Space is an alternate version of the Pokemon world is already not especially relevant to this page, so going into detail here about the reasons for that speculation would be a rambling digression, in my opinion. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 04:49, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

The question about whether or not Ultra Space is an alternate universe is, in my opinion, relevant because it helps establish whether the pokémon in the Ultra Space Wilds are extradimensional in nature or not. The Ultra Ruin theory helps support this explanation. - unsigned comment from LavaringX (talk • contribs)

Why would Ultra Space being/not being an alternate version of the Pokemon world have anything to do with whether it's another dimension? It clearly is so. It's just a matter of whether that other dimension is an alternate version of the Pokemon world or not. They are extradimensional regardless of that dimension's nature. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Extradimensional Pokémon

Should this page be moved to "Extraterrestrial and extradimensional Pokémon"? Landfish7 16:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Or a different term that refers to both as aren't Extraterrestrial and extradimensional rahter similar or same thing just alien life from space and dimensions? If not maybe both?--Jacob9594 (talk) 16:34, 12 April 2022 (UTC)