Talk:M13

Does anybody know here who this so-called Phantom Ruler Z is? MamoswineGliscor 02:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

No. The movie isn't even close to being out yet. 梅子^❄_❅ 02:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

It's a movie not a username. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Probably a Gen V Pokémon, knowing how the past three movies have released an initial title, and then later revealed a "new" (event) Pokémon from DPPt... considering there's no more right now... we may have the beginning of Gen V on our hands. However, no matter what I think, no speculation please. TTEchidna 06:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

How is there already ratings?

Especially for Australia?--Midnight Blue 04:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, when were they confirmed? CuboneKing (Planet Cubone • Bone Club) 04:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if I can edit it.--Midnight Blue 04:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I can. CuboneKing (Planet Cubone • Bone Club) 04:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Did I leave one in there? My bad. TTEchidna 06:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Lugia and Ho-oh

Is this the same movie that has the battle between Lugia and Ho-oh in it? Taromon 13:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Though Lugia and Ho-oh were not showed in this particular trailer, the image of them battling still remains on the official movie website, so yeah it's the same... Lugia and Ho-oh's roles just aren't known yet (Yaminokame 14:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC))

So, why don't we list those two Pokémon, and take out that last trivia fact? They're going to be there; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The teaser showed them, and that's that.--Skulblaka Shurtugal 23:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I point to Palkia in movie 11. It was on the first poster and, oh look, not in the movie. TTEchidna 07:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, being in the first poster is a bit different from being in first teaser, in my opinion. There were other movies which posters contained Pokémon that not participated in the movie itself. Jirachi: Wish Maker for example, with Treecko and Mudkip. However, it may be better to wait further information. -- RikkiKitsune 16:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Either way, it'll be out in July. We'll find out more before then, but that's gonna be when our answer is. TTEchidna 10:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Diamond And Pearl?

Why Is This Classed As A Diamond And Pearl Series? Surely It Should Be In The Heart Gold And Soul Silver Series. Anyone Agree? After All The DP Trilogy Ended If I Remember Rightly! --Manaphy1 16:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

No. 梅子^❄_❅ 16:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

No confirmation has been made about any new series, or about the DP series ending. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the DP series logo is used on the movie website. May I remind you that the Battle Frontier seasons were in the same series as the Hoenn seasons? I don't think it's likely they'll create a new series for HGSS. Possible, but not likely. --electAbuzzzz 16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I highly, HIGHLY doubt they're creating a HGSS series; they're about to give DP a new opening theme! So yes, this will most definitely be a DP movie. (Also way to make my first reply look totally unhelpful, Buzz. 梅子^❄_❅ 16:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

It's still the DP series, just like how AG didn't become a FRLG series or an Emerald series. We have a different colorscheme for Battle Frontier, LMM, and PRTOTS because it focuses on the Emerald features, so this has an HGSS colorscheme because it focuses on HGSS's features; likely Season 13 or 14 will, too. Undoubtedly, I'd say, we'll be having Movie 14 be in Johto as well. TTEchidna 22:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

so its considered to fall in the DPPt series until further notice, that's all to it from now on I suggest.--Nobody777 10:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

There is no "DPPt" series. There's the DP series. And it will continue to fall into that series until all eternity, unless they'll decide to start a new series, which is extremely unlikely. Conversation over. Stop talking about it. --electAbuzzzz 13:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

It's not unlikely. It just won't happen until Gen V. HGSS is Gen IV. As long as Dawn's around, it will be DP. TTEchidna 07:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

And why couldn't the anime have a hgss series? Original series - gen 1 and 2.Hoenn- gen 3 (ruby and saphire), the battle frontier - fire red and leaf green versions.Sinnoh - gen 4 (Diamond, pearl and platinium), and as hgss came out, the anime will probably follow ash's journey to Johto once more. - unsigned comment from Tomas (talk • contribs)

actual name

its actually phantom champion Z, its the champion kanji not the ruler, please rename.--Nobody777 18:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

It can be translated as champion, but I chose the "ruler" translation instead so as not to cause confusion with the Pokemon League title of Champion. 梅子^❄_❅ 18:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

No, its not what you think will be confused, bulbapedia should be a reliable source of info not one that goes with whatever we users want so some admin should change the name once and for all.--Nobody777 13:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you're getting this... Phantom Champion Z is not an "official" name either (It's the one I came up with and Serebii used actually lol... XD ) All three of the translations out there are just fine, and no one is better than the other... At this point we don't know enough about the story or the characters in it to make an accurate judgment of what the proper translation should be, so therefore it should stay "Phantom Ruler Z" until something is revealed that suggests otherwise, which might not even happen because it could be 100% accurate. (Yaminokame 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC))

How do we know his name is The Phantom?

I'm curious b/c I don't remember anyone saying anything.--Midnight Blue 06:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Uh what? If you're talking about that pirate guy, he was in movie 9. This likely has nothing to do with him... it's like how there've been several Jimmies, but only one has encountered Raikou. TTEchidna 10:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

No, someone added into the article something along the lines of "he is called the Phantom" but it's already been taken care of :p (Yaminokame 10:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC))