Talk:Poké Ball/Archive 1

Fast Ball

Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as Pokémon Forever states "If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild." Jshadias 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like "Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou", but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --Meowth346 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?

And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... Evkl 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC) Teleport counts, though. The quick ball worked on Abra.Nintendofan146B 20:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG

There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. Fabu-Vinny 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

TCG sections

Shouldn't the page give hyper links to all of the Poké Balls featured in the cards? Mr. Bell 08:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Hyper Ball in manga

Do you think it's worth mentioning in the "in the manga" section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. Fsilone 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? TTEchidna^G_SDS! 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... Tina ^δ♫ 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Happiness Balls

Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?

This is a good question, how come it wasn't answered? Felinoel 21:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Main Picture

Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - MTC

I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. evkl 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Poké ball that is in the first opening possibly. David aipom

As long as the picture illustrates on how the ball looks like in the anime and games (which it does), the it is acceptable. - Vhayes1992 18:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Team Rocket Balls...

I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in "Mewtwo's Return" feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.

They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...

Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.Missingno. Master 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Ball Images

The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --Pie 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Replacing Images

I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.

I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --Pie 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --Pie 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

One big vs. many small

I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.

The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to "Ball", and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...

Thoughts? --Pie ^~♪♫ 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on held items is quickly becoming...).

C'mon, anyone else? --TTEchidna 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --TTEchidna 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thats a GREAT idea. We could have another template for all the balls. --Usyflad 10 23:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Green Pokeball

I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --Britannia's Blade 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Handled. --Pie ^~♪♫ 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Dive Ball

What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?

That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. TTEchidna 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? Missingno. Master 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.

Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball.

Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.

I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. File:Ani137MS.gif_TESHFile:Ani233MS.gif_TALK File:Ani474MS.gif_FUN 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new) The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like Lokoko.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball

i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&feature=related> its supposed that a master ball never breaks

That's a Great Ball. Dur. Tina^☆♥♫δ 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Gen IV Park Ball

Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --Dual 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, look what I found!

Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the "Bouy Base Galaxy" in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --Theryguy512 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw David aipom

Jelly Donuts?

Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. Shonen Jump Master 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Ball capsulses

Should we mention ball capsules in this article?Darkmaster015:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at allC Is for Cookie

What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --Theryguy512 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? Tina^☆♫ 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

"You missed the Pokémon!"

I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. --Posted by Deadlymethane at 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... TTEchidna 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Heavy Ball?

It says that heavy ball is "+20 +30 -10" What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what? --MewUser 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Heavy Ball added to the catch rate, So a +30 on a catch rate of 3 would make it catch rate 33. Gywall 17:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

From the information given on the page, Snorlax would be the only Gen II pokemon to get the +30 and the +20 would rare as well e.g. Graveler is only 105Kg and HO-OH is only 199Kg Tzion 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

the old ball

did you put in that old ball from pokemon 4 ever the movie. the picture is at - unsigned comment from Talvin7111 (talk • contribs)
We need a better quality picture than that, surely? - Cassius335 00:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

The only image I could find was Wiipedia's: Wikipedia:Image:Old Poké Ball from Pokémon 4Ever.png. Isn't there a better screenshot? → C Teng ^[talk] 13:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to replace an existing image so could someone do it for me? Old Poké_Ball I took these screenshots from the DVD at 16:9. Click on the image for their full size. Coololz352 00:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

The image needs to be uploaded to the archives, then the image can be replaced. Preferably the image would be retaken as a png, rather than a jpg though, as they are better quality (although with the current image I'm sure it can be overlooked). To upload images, go to the archives (in the side bar) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password, then upload the image, e.g. to Sammy's_Old_Poké_Ball.png or something similar. Werdnae (talk) 06:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Poké Ball Images

The larger images for the "Generation II Poké Balls" are not showing up. It is just showing the name of the images. Is this just me?--Mjr162006 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm new here.

Never mind.I cant see them eitherDCM

It looks like the images were either deleted, or never existed in the first place.--Mjr162006 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

They were there.I remember seeing them.......A MYSTERY!DCM

It is just a wild guess, but could this have anything to do with the recent upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.0? Sometimes things can accidentally get lost when the wiki software is updated. I know that has happened more than once at Zelda Wiki.org (my main wiki).--Mjr162006 04:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Generation II

Generation II has no Poké Ball sprites?~Ποκεμανιακα0β 17:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

• There were no pokéball sprites. Phocks ~ Come dance with me! 09:15, 30 October 2008.

Origin of the Concept?

"In the series, Ultraseven, when unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place."

Now I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe the concept of "Keeping Pokémon inside Pokéballs" originated from Ultraseven. --Arima 00:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

"Originate" seems to strong a word. Inspired by, possibly. Worth a mention on the page, maybe. State as fact a connection that's at best speculation, unless we hear that Satoshi Tajiri said something in an interview confirming that Ultraseven is where he got the concept...not such a good idea. Lucentas 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

GASP! OR MAYBE ITS INSPIRED BY THE TALE OF GENIES! MYSTICAL BEINGS BEING KEPT IN CONTAINERS AND FORCED TO DO BATTLE WITH EACH OTHER.

Dont put that nonsense on the page. Their are so many other references its not worth it--DCM_{((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))}

Genies don't even battle. They grant wishes. Besides, that sounds ridiculous.--Starlight_the_ampharos 21:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Exactly why he said don't put that stuff in there. R.A. Hunter B. 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

About the Master Ball...

Should we include the locations of the master balls from games? Or is that off-topic. And if yes, where shall we put it? --Metagross72 04:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thats a valid point, but no, that would seem like overkillDCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))}

I Think that this article should tell about the locations of the Poké Ball kinds, or at least where to buy them because I'm getting agravated from having to run all over Sinnoh just to buy a Dusk Ball. Dolphins_are_awesome! 16:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No. We are an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide.DCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))}

I know! I'll make a page called Locations of Master Balls! I got this idea from Locations of TMs. I'll do that right now! --Metagross72 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

That'll get everyone getting Masterballs, But no, we don't need another article which is highly likely to get deleted in less then 0.11111111111111111111 seconds.--FF(edits-talk) 00:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Locations of limited availibilty Poké Balls? The Dark Fiddler - ¿Nos hablamos? 00:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Such as? R.A. Hunter B. 04:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Reviving something old here, but really. The Master Ball is an important part of the game, just because we list where you can obtain one doesn't make us a "strategy guide", in my opinion it makes us more like an encyclopedia as an encyclopedia tries to have all the information on something, including the locations of things. Making a new article is taking it a little too far, but if it hasn't been done already (and I skimmed through the article and it seems to not have been done) we should list the locations of the Master Balls. That and a lot of people are probably going to want to know where too find them. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that. In Kanto it was a gift from the Silph president, Johto I don't know because I never bought the games, Hoenn in the Aqua/Magma hideout in R/S and then Aqua hideout in E, and then Cyrus gives it to you in D/P/Pt. Unless that's only in Pt. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Elm gives you the Master Ball in GSC. -Sketch 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

And now someone just needs to figure out a neat (as in, tidy) was of adding the information onto the article... I recommend in a table/box kinda thing, I'd do it myself but I'm both busy, and I have no idea how too. xD Sorry I'm not much help. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

How about this?

Generation	Game(s)	Location	Requirements	Notes
I	Pokémon Green, Red and Blue Versions, Pokémon Yellow	Silph Co.	Talk to the president after defeating Giovanni.
II	Gold, Silver, and Crystal Versions	Professor Elm's laboratory	Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.
II	Gold, Silver, and Crystal Versions	Johto Radio Tower	Match all 5 numbers in the Lucky Number Show.
III	Pokémon Ruby	Magma Hideout, Maxie's office	None	Entrance is blocked off after battling Groudon.
III	Pokémon Sapphire, Pokémon Emerald	Aqua Hideout, Archie's office	None	Entrance is blocked off after battling Kyogre. (Sapphire only)
III	Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald Versions	Lilycove Department Store	Defeat your rival in front of the store, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.
III	Pokémon Colosseum	Agate Village	Recieve incomplete email from Eagun in Realgam Tower	Eagun's email is cut off before it can mention the Master Ball.
III	Pokémon XD	Pokémon HQ Lab	Talk to Professor Krane before heading to Citadark Isle
III	FireRed and LeafGreen Versions	Silph Co.	Talk to the president after defeating Giovanni
IV	Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum Versions	Galactic Veilstone Building	Defeat Cyrus
IV	Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum Versions	Jubilife TV	Earn the Coal Badge, defeat the Galactic Grunts near the northern exit of Jubilife City, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.

Is this any good? Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 23:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I think that looks pretty good. :D Anyone have any objections? ~~Takoto - サソデイ 23:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

If there are no objections, and I don't think there are any, I'll just go ahead and put this on the page now. Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't really look like it fits at its current place. Maybe would could make a page exclusive to masterballs as we could do some in the anime stuff and put this table there... we could also add screenshots of where the masterballs are found. Additionally the table isn't quite consistent as it says after battling Kyogre (Sapphire only) it should also say after battling Groudon (Ruby only). Otherwise, everything is great. -MasterKenobi 00:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The (Sapphire only) part is because Sapphire&Emerald have the Aqua hideout. It's only blocked in Sapphire, not Emerald. That's why it's there. As for the chart, if it could be made a bit smaller and collapsible, or at least smaller, then it would be a bit better. And if it can't be made smaller, then collapsible would probably be fine. R.A. Hunter Blade 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Making it collapsible is a better option than making a whole page dedicated too the Master Balls I guess. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It's way better than a separate page, because then we'd have to make one for every single Poké Ball. The only real significance between it and the others is that it never fails, and there's only one per game unless you get extremely lucky at the lottery. R.A. Hunter Blade 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean, I'm actually neutral too the idea of a separate page for the Master Balls, as in my opinion there's kinda important, but meh. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Opponent's only keep Pokémon in Poké Balls?

"In the games, all opponents keep their Pokémon in Poké Balls. The reason for this is unknown."

Whoever put this up, what is this supposed to mean? If you mean they always keep them in Balls, then it's false, because there are countless trainers in-game that let their Pokémon wander around, and in Colosseum and XD you can even battle them, but they'll go back into their Ball pre-battle.

I interpreted as the type of Ball, since it's true all opponents keep them in Poké Balls, not Ultra Balls or whatever, but since there's contention, I think some real clarification would be nice. Dragoness 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I sure of seen some other ball somewhere, but thats besides the point. I interpreted it as in the case of Ash's Pikachu, not being in the pokeball, but battling in the anime, while the jigglypuff in yellow version and a machop in gold couldnt battle, but you could see the walking aroundDCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))}

Then it's not true that all opponents keep their Pokémon in their Balls. Best example is the Shadow Lugia in XD, who was definitely not kept in a Ball.Dragoness 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Did an opponent use it? Was it ever "captured" in anyway?DCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))}

Yes, Greevil clearly commanded it to attack and it did, not to mention you had to use a Snag Ball to catch it, not a regular Ball like the wild Pokémon. There are other examples in that game. In Phenac, a Peon is talking to his Absol before you battle him, and he uses the Absol in battle. In Agate Village, there is an old woman standing with a Mightyena and if you choose to battle her, she uses the Mightyena. Eagun also keeps his Pikachu out but still uses it to battle. Dragoness 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Non main game but ok. Im gonna go locate that trainer with the safari zone. Keep it the way you have itDCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))} 04:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

You're all missing the point, I think that who first posted this was trying to say that when you battle another trainer they always send out their Pokémon in normal Poké Balls, you know, because I've never seen an in-game opponent sending out any Pokémon in a, say, Master Ball. However, why is this important, I mean, yeah it's true, but I don't think is something we should see in the article, or is it important? I may be wrong.--YukitoOoO 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Apricorn Balls

There is what looks to be official images of the Apricorn Balls at this photobucket account [1] as well as some better quality images of the Hoenn balls here [2] There is also better quality images of the [3] Dusk Ball, [4] Heal Ball and [5] Cherish Ball. Just throwing them out there to see if you want to use them. --Spriteit 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Question about quick ball and timer ball

What classes as a turn? Is it every one of YOUR turns, or the total amount of turns in battle? ie You use false swipe, Pokemon uses hyper beam, Would this be counted by the game as 1 turn or 2? --Jmvb 22:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

one turn.--freezingCOLD _{(page, talk)} 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Dusk Ball

Dusk Ball is in effect while in a forest? I mean... do forests like Eterna activate the night effect of the Dusk Ball? Or is it in effect at night only? hfc2X 20:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Good question. I know it works everywhere at night and in caves 24/7... But in forests? That's a good question. Missingno. Master.....IT IS TIME! 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

3D Picture

Don't you think it would be better to have Ken Sugimori's artwork for the Poké Ball instead of that 3D Picture? It's not really official artwork and looks nothing like the balls in the anime! I think if we used Ken Sugimori's artwork it would give people more of a general idea of what Poké Balls actually look like. Just an idea! Taromon777 12:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you have one? --☆Kevzo8 12:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you just use the Pokeball pic from the chart down the page. I believe that it's a Sugimori.--Usyflad10 01:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Anime Pokeballs

Half the anime pokeballs are actully just customized pokeballs painted to look unique, namely the Lake Ball, Chansey ball, Green Pokeball and Rocket Ball. The game series also suggest that custom poke balls exist in this manner; when you deliver Oak's Parcel he states it's a custom ordered Poke Ball. By listeing these under the heading "Customized Pokeballs" we can save some space.--Lego3400 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Rich lady expensive custom ball

I remember a episode where a rich lady gets a custom ball from a jewelry store (like you would get a watch.) I can't remember if the woman had a snubull or if it was that female meowth that inspired TR Meowth to learn to talk. Yami 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Probably Snubbull. It sounds about right. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

but why is there no mention of these novelty or should i say costume (like fake jewelry) balls? Yami 22:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No, no no, Hunter Blade. It was Meowzee (spelling?) the Meowth whose Poké Ball had loads off jewelry on it. If my memory serves right. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm going just add something about the option of buying custom balls for pets. ^_^;; Yami 23:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Added. geez.... I'd Marry a Wobbufet or become a Mormon and marry Jessie and Jessiebelle before Meowzie's owner. Woman had me pulling a Fred G. Sanford.

It seems that the basic outer appearance is the same, just the ball Meowzie's owner bought was diamond studded. Yami 00:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Brock, Ninetales and breaking the ball?

In the last part of the mechanics section it says Brock breaks his ball after releasing Ninetales ? that can't be right, his article says noting about a Ninetales being in his procession and i don't remember him having one or breaking a ball Yami 00:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

EP232. Last paragraph of the synopsis. — THE TROM — 01:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

It needs rewording, it makes it sound like brock was the one who broke the ball. Yami 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Green Poké Ball

Does Gold's Gold and Silver pic have one, just to mention?--Pokéboy93 23:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

TCG

Where's the link to the regular Poké Ball card? Nowhere. Off to link it.--Mew* a.k.a. Prmatt11 was here at 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, they really need to put the Pokémon card!--The Bulb's Master 02:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Timer Ball...

Does the Timer Ball increase in...

a) turns after start

b) turns after last Poké Ball (from start if none)

c) turns after last Timer Ball (from start if none)

...? - unsigned comment from Giratina's Embodiment (talk • contribs) 18:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

After the start of the battle. You can alternatively think of this as 'since the wild Pokémon appeared'. This has been noted in the article. —darklordtrom 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

New Johto ball art

YAY

Okay so how soon can we get that in here? TTEchidna 02:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

the heavy ball

So the heavy ball takes 30 away from the catch rate if the pokemon is under 100kg, what if a pokemon already has a catch rate lower than 30 and is under 100kg? ie the lake trio and cresselia, would their catch rate be a negative value? Would it be even possible to catch them in a heavy ball? Jmvb 12:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I managed to get Raikou in a heavy ball which, according to this page, would have meant Raikou had a catch rate of -17 because his weight is lower than 451.5 lbs (it's 392.4 lbs). So it either doesn't take any more off the catch rate when it's 3 or I got very very lucky. Jmvb 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

safari ball art

in the platinum guidebook, there is a picture of safarai ball. why is the picture of the safari ball here fanmade? -Pokeant 09:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Because no one's uploaded it. Feel free to tidy it up and upload it yourself. —darklordtrom 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

HGSS/DPPt?

Since the balls in HG and SS are not programmed into DP and Pt, will trading between the two games be possible if using an apricorn ball? I don't know how they'd make that work. Dexington 19:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

No one does at this stage. There are plenty of speculations on the Bulbagarden Forums, if you'd like to discuss this further. —darklordtrom 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Has this been explored any further yet?--Skaisdead 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Gen II balls become Poké Balls. They cannot be held. TTEchidna 04:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

What happens if they are traded back? Does stay a PokéBall, or does it change back to what they were caught in? This sort of thing should go in the page. (Or was it already?)Poisson14 02:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure? If I try to view a pokemon that was caught in a HGSS-only ball on my pearl cart (via the trade screen), it crashes. Any pokemon in HGSS-only balls also appear as bad eggs in PBR. --Pyritie 11:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

HGSS Balls -> plain Poké Balls. Just tested it. I don't have PBR, so I can't test that. --SnorlaxMonster 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, odd... no idea what's causing the problem then. --Pyritie 12:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Could be because of a hacking code gone wrong. If you didn't hack, it could be some sort of hardware glitch or someone else might have hacked it (if lent to somebody for some time or bought as a used game). Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Possibly trivia

I have noticed in the anime, NO one throws the ball with their left hand ever (Excluding throwing 2 or more balls at the same time) --Vhayes1992 18:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Other manga?

What are Pokeballs like in other manga? I know in D&P Adventures, they're similar to Special's view on Pokeballs. Lovely Rose 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Fast Ball

according to serebii the fast ball works on pokemon with a "high speed" in HGSS instead of pokemon that flee. The rest look the same as GSC. Does anyone know what/can find out what the threshold for the pokemon's speed is for it work. And is based on a pokemon's base stats, it's actual stats, or their nature? http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml Jmvb 16:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Compé?

Why on the Earth is "Compe Ball" spell as "Compé"? That makes no sense. --Maxim 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

And why is it called Compe or Compé anyway? It's Park Ball. Anyone who played GSC knows that. Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thing is, that's how it was in GSC. They changed the name of the Park Ball in HGSS to the "Compe Ball" as to avoid confusion with the ball used in Pal Park. I don't see why we can't add some alt-text saying "Park Ball in Generation II", though... →Tinā ^♫★ 16:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Good idea, Tina. I've done that. And if anyone else is really confused about the naming like I was (although it may seem obvious), it's the competition ball :D —darklordtrom 07:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

A Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Compe-tition? --Phred 01:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Master Ball locations section

Uh...shouldn't we use a new template for the List of Master Ball locations in the games section of this page?

Since, you know, it looks kinda bland compared to the rest of the lists, which use the new ones...thoughts about this? --InfinityByZero 23:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Master Ball Should Have Own Page

Maybe it should have it's own page. Because it is way more important than a Poke Ball. Or maybe all the balls should have their own page, the exception being the Gen II balls, which should have a collective page. I could do this with some help. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 14:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Nah. The new item template will make it perfect. TTEchidna 05:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Three days

I should finish it tomorrow, though.　Major major major edit. TTEchidna 10:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

The Safari and Park Balls

So I'm a bit confused here. In every generation there have been Safari Balls or Park Balls, yet we only have three images for Safari/Park Balls and no mention of their different appearances. There should exist: Gen. 1: Safari Balls (no sprites exist but should have official artwork); Gen. 2: Park Balls (GSC); Gen. 3: Safari Balls (for Emerald and FRLG); Gen. 4: Park Balls (DPP)*, Safari Balls (DP&P)*, Compé Balls (HGSS)*, plus possibly HGSS Safari Balls. (*We have these.) I'd personally like to see a note on the page mentioning that there have been several different forms for Safari Ball, with pics if possible. (I seem to remember that Gen. 1 Safari Balls were green with a black "S" on them and that Gen. 3 had spikey orange designs on lime green.) Also, this might help when looking for refs... and inconsistencies: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Safari_ball_issues.jpg Norle

Um... we don't need Gen I ones, because it's stricly game sprites only. I have emerald, but need help getting screenshots. I COULD ALSO PROVE THE CELEBI GLITCH WITH SCREENSHOTS! SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 17:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Norle has some very good points. Unfortunently this is the Pokémon fandom, where good points are ignored and wild speculation is ripe. These variations on the Safari Balls sound interesting. Me, Hurray! 15:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Lucian's Comments

Well I was playing my Pokemon Platinum game one day and I saw Lucian in the Canalave Library, which surprised me. He told me that Pokemon instinctively curl into a ball to recuperate and that is why they'll be caught by a Pokeball. Unfortunately, I don't have his exact words. This event happened on a Thursday between 5 and 6pm and I had already beaten the Elite Four once. I didn't see anything about what he said on the Pokeball page and I didn't know if anyone else here has gotten to talk to Lucian at the library. It was interesting information but I didn't know if that should be added to the page or not. - unsigned comment from Kitty (talk • contribs)

Lucian appears at the library after beating the E4. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Fiore

Someone should add the fact that there are no Poke Balls in Fiore. Maybe in Almia, too, but I don't know for sure whether Poke Balls are used there. TorchicBlaziken ^{(talk•edits)} 15:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Moon Ball?

Does this ball give the multiplier for just Nidorina, Nidorino, Jigglypuff, Clefairy, and Skitty, or to everyone in their respective families? Also, does it even give the multiplier to Skitty?--Bulbafreak9000 04:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Skitty evolves with the Moon Stone, so yes. It's not available in the wild, though, so the only way to legitimately get that bonus is to have a Ditto transform into one. And personally I always wondered if it gave the multiplier to the whole family... Doubt it in Gen II, stuff was primitive then, but in IV, I'd imagine so. TTEchidna 20:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Premier Ball sell price

As far as I can tell, Premier Balls sell for 100, not 500. (Checked in my copies of Sapphire and Platinum.) Glass Coyote 00:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll change it when it's unprotected. Or an admin might change it. R.A. Hunter Blade 04:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

g template

We have a few of them floating around on this page. Colosseum and XD under here and Snap under here. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Those G's are supposed to be there. We don't frown upon that template's usage when it's used for the names of video games--in fact, that's the intended purpose of the template. It's the "lazy" usages, those that aren't names of video games, that we frown upon--simply put, anything that read stuff such as {{g|anime}}, {{g|Center}}, {{g|Sunday}}, {{g|Special}} (this was before the big to-Adventures move that happened early November 2009), and the like were bound to get relinked. --Shiningpikablu252 22:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Oooh, ok. That makes sense, although I'm pretty sure this is the only page that has them still on it. R.A. Hunter Blade 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Not even close. --electAbuzzzz 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Well then search was being a butt yesterday. .___. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Pikachu

Even Ash's Pikachu, the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time outside with Ash, has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in Pokémon - I Choose You!.

I don't think this is even relevant - and it isn't proven that that Poké Ball is the Poké Ball Ash carries around, since Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Gary's Blastoise left their Poké Balls (which had Japanese writing on them a few times I've seen it, although they may have retconned it because I think I also saw an episode without it) on that podium in Oak's Lab. Also Gary's Blastoise is now held in a regular Poké Ball as seen when he battles Ash at the end of the Master Quest series.

I hope we're allowed to put up YouTube links in talk pages, but just to show you, here is EP001 where in the shot of the glass case opening, it shows on the empty Poké Balls of Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle that there is writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMNw7cPDYv8

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn't take it for face value that Ash uses that lightning-bolt marked Poké Ball, and also to ask if someone who is able can delete that comment in the beginning of the Anime section. Thank you! :D Lucadan ^(Talk) 21:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

New data from DFC

Apparently a user from the Cave of Dragonflies hacked into the assembly data and decoded it (?? I don't know how that works, but whatever) and found that the actual catch rates for some Balls (Dusk, Quick, Nest, Timer) are different to what the fandom has been parroting around. I've updated Dusk and Quick to match, but I've no idea how to fix the Nest and Timer catch rates. Frugali 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Updated HG/SS Apricorn ball data has also been added there and I have edited the page to match; however, some sort of consensus must be reached on how to show the Nest and Timer Ball catch rates before they can be corrected, since they clearly can't be done the current way. --Dragonfree 06:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The timer ball catch rates are correct according to the website, "int(number of turns passed in battle + 10) / 10, maximum 4", using this you get the same catch rates described in this article when you mess about with number of turns in battle. Bear in mind "int" takes off the stuff after the decimal point from the number. So for example after 27 turns the calculation is int(27+10)/10 = 3.7 - take the point .7 and you're left with 3 - Just as the article says, you can try with other amounts of turns and it doesn't contradict what the article says.

The nest ball is a bit of a problem though, "int(40 - Pokémon's level) / 10", the article says for pokemon under 19 it's x3 - but (40-19)/10 = 2.1 - int(2.1) is 2... The article also says that between and 20 29 it's x2, but int((40-25)/10) =1 This would imply that when the level is 10 and under it's x3, between 11 and 20 x2, and 21 and over x1 Jmvb 01:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

No; it can take on decimal values. Note that the division by 10 is not inside the parentheses. (...which means the int() is actually redundant since what's inside the parentheses is always an integer anyway; it was just a leftover from the old formulas and I just removed it.)

Love Ball and non/neutral-gender pokemon?

so apparently Mew learns Attract at some level and it only works on other non-gender pokemon, would the same kind of thing apply where you have a non-gender pokemon out and use a love ball on another non-gender pokemon? --Shadofrak 00:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Mew can learn attract by TM45. It always fails. Now use the link templates. Mew, Attract. As for Love Balls, 1× catch rate. TTEchidna 01:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

This trivia suggests otherwise, so one of us (as in Bulbapedia members) is wrong. "Mew is the only genderless Pokémon able to learn Attract and Captivate; however, when used by Mew, they will fail unless the opposing Pokémon is also genderless."

Variants in Electric Tale/Dengeki Pikachu

Though the article claims that there are no ball variants in this series, two of then have been seen (one original to the series, and one based on the games) in the chapter when Ash/Satoshi fought the Haunter to avenge Sabrina who fell victim to it:

The first one shown is the giant Poké Ball intended to capture the giant Haunter, first suggested by Ash (along the lines of "It's a giant Pokémon, right? So we need a giant Poké Ball to capture it!"). In the same chapter, he attempted to capture the weakened Haunter using a Hyper (Ultra) Ball, only to lose it when the Haunter self-destructed before the ball hit it. HechEff 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Net Ball x6 on wild Surskit?

Bringing up the topic of Net Ball, which works 3x on Water and Bug types, and Surskit fits such description... DB 21:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

If anything, it would be x9, as it would be x1, then x3, and multiplying that again with 3, is x9. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 22:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

No. It only does x3. Like the Dusk Ball triggers its higher catch rate if used in a cave OR at night, the Net Ball triggers if used on a Bug type OR a Water type. --SnorlaxMonster 07:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Green Poke Ball

In the first episode, in the tournament, a trainer sends out an Onix in a green Poke Ball. Should I add that? - unsigned comment from LoadOfMentos (talk • contribs)

I could've sworn that was already in the article... anyways, yeah, go for it. Add it to the "in the anime" section. --ZestyCactus 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

At one point in time I am sure it was already in there, it is my fav one. felinoel 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Gen II balls in Gen V?

Wait a minute... why is the only way to get gen II balls in gen V through hacking? Why not trading? felinoel 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Because 1. Pokemon can't hold items when transfered from Gen IV to Gen V, and 2. The Gen II balls can't be held, to prevent trading to DPP – WaterUser _{(page, talk)} 22:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah I see, k thanks, can't wait til April when I can get it felinoel 01:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Mistake in the Trivia section

In the trivia section it says that in all other languages the names of the poké balls are always related to the term "ball", but it's not true: in italian, infact, even though the name of the item in the videogames is poké ball, they're also called "sfere poké" (poké spheres). This second name is so widespread that it is used even in the opening theme of the first season's anime. Since I'm not an expert in the site's guidelines, I didn't change the section because I'm not sure whether or not this can be added to the page. Can anybody who is a little bit more experienced than me do this correction, if it's a proper one??? --Melograno 14:15, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome to remove any information that is factually incorrect :) I've got this one. —darklordtrom 18:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

So is it that there are just two interchangeable names, or is there a distinction between the individual item and the group of items? --SnorlaxMonster 07:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Premier Ball

Just asking; is there really any point to the premier ball other than to remember an event of some sort? - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 21:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

It looks different than a regular Poké Ball. That's it. Players can use it for whatever they want. For instance, on my HeartGold Version, I tried to catch all event Pokémon (for example, Sudowoodo and Shiny Gyarados) in Premier Balls. So the point of them is whatever you make of it. --Andy^P_K^M_N 01:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks! - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 10:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Sport Ball

Click the show button on the Sport Ball section and you'll know what I mean. — Zekasaur 06:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I see nothing? Could you elaborate? felinoel 11:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, there is nothing wrong. Or is it your computer maybe? - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

BLUE pokeball

I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --EzekielMaple 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

You mean it is blue like the green ball or is it like one of the several blue pokeballs like the great ball? felinoel 23:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I looked at the image in question, and it does indeed look like a regular Poké Ball, just with a blue top half instead of red. Great Balls have those red stripes on them. Might be worth adding, but I don't think I'll add it just yet, in case any admins happen to have differing opinions to mine. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 23:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I only used the great ball as an example? You should add it since the green ball from the first thirty seconds of the anime is added. felinoel 23:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I found another! In the ruins of alph artwork, also from gen ii--EzekielMaple 01:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Did you upload a picture or could you be a bit more specific? felinoel 10:29, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Apricorn Balls

If you send a Pokémon to Black and White from Johto that's been caught in an Apricorn Ball, will the Ball show on the Pokémon's..."stat page" and when u send it out? or will it become a Normal Poké Ball?--Darknesslover5000 07:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I can't remember for the stats section but, it does retain its ball when a Pokémon is sent out for battle. --☆CoolPikachu! 08:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

hallelujah--Darknesslover5000 08:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Park Ball

Should we say something about the Park Ball's sprite differing from its artwork ?--WenGobou 19:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Just found this on Poképedia- does it mean that the archives' sprite is of the wrong animation frame ? --WenGobou 21:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Can you link to the differing image? felinoel 22:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Sprite trivia isn't allowed on bulbapedia anyway. You can ask an admin though. --Pokemaster97 22:44, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll also make a little comparison: artwork(bottom-right Ball)File:Allballs2.png;

Bulbapedia sprite:; other Bulbapedia sprite:File:BallPalParkstatus.png; Poképédia sprite:. So, can we upload Poképédia's sprite then ?

Which one is correct? I think the sprite is the correct one though? felinoel 23:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I have noticed that image. In fact, my HGSS guide (the official one) uses that sprite. It looks twisted, but none of those other images look right. --Nathan2055^talk 19:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I believe the current one comes from data in HGSS. The small one is fanmade and that Poképédia one seems to have been taken from a screenshot of one being used. Also, I think the sprite trivia policy only applies to Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, the Poképédia one looks fanmade as well. --Nathan2055^talk 17:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Archive

Can we archive this page? It's getting really long, about 65 kilobytes. Gliscorguy54 23:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Ha, was just thinking this, yea what is the process done here with archiving? This page really needs it felinoel 23:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean the talk page or the article? --Nathan2055^talk 20:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

By this page I am moderately sure Glisc meant the talk page felinoel 04:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Generation III and IV ball locations in Unova

In the "Types of Poké Balls" section, there is data on the location of the Generation I balls and Generation V ball in Unova, but no data on the locations of Generation III and IV balls. I don't have the games yet, but I've seen videos showing they are available. Could someone add them? --Nathan2055^talk 19:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

From what I have heard they are not available, but pokemon transferred from previous gens in those pokeballs stay in them which is possibly what you saw felinoel 04:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I saw someone in a video (here) use a Timer Ball. Also, in Castelia City, I'm not sure how (I didn't buy a Japanese copy), but Timer Balls and Quick Balls are certainly obtainable.

When linking a video that long and boring please tell us when what you are referencing happens... felinoel 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

He uses one against Zekrom. Items can't be transferred, to Gen. V and I can see on here that there are Timer Balls and Quick Balls obtainable in Castelia City --Nathan2055^talk 17:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

So those two balls are available but not the rest is what you are saying? felinoel 03:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

No. I'm almost certain that they brought back all of the Generation III and IV Poké Balls. --Nathan2055^talk 19:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I just noticed that there is a Dive Ball on the ground in Underground Waterway Opening. This proves that they are accessible but we need to know what Poké Marts they can be found at. --Nathan2055^talk 19:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

All the balls except Apricorn Balls, Sport Balls, Park Balls and Safari Balls can be obtained. We just don't have the locations yet. --SnorlaxMonster 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

     The Dive Balls can be bought in Undella Town in Gen. 5 ($1000) from the Poke Mart bottom clerk.

Generation II balls in Diamond Pearl and platinum

I looked every where for information about the Johto balls appearing in dpp, so I tested it and added this information under the pokeballs introduced in gen II

"They cannot be traded to Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum as they cannot be held by Pokémon. Also, if a Pokémon is caught in any of these balls and traded to Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum they will appear to be caught in a regular Pokéball. They will retain there original ball if traded back to Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver."

Can someone test and see if pokemon that were caught in johto balls on dpp can be migrated to gen V and retain there original ball? (I hope Im doing this right, this is my first time trying to edit this page and the talk page.) metafruit 05:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Any pokeball 100% capture rate in Entree Forest

Can someone confirm that you can use any pokeball to capture Dream World pokemon. I've tried it a few times (SR) and my balls have not failed but I could have just gotten very lucky... It seems odd that they'd program the dream ball in yet allow you to use any pokeball, maybe it wasn't originally their intention to do it like this. The only advantage the dream ball gives you is that you don't have to buy extra balls to capture dream world pokemon Jmvb 23:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)