Talk:Seven Sages

Cheren mention's that he let Ghetsis escape. Is there another location where you find him again? Inuichi 22:21, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

No, you never see him again. And Cheren never let him go, Ghetsis escaped and Cheren was blaming himself for it Ataro 22:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

The article states that Ghetsis was arrested prior to Looker's quest; while that's true, the point you two raised should take precedence: Ghetsis escaped custody and cannot be found. I shall have to think about a concise way to state that, so that it fits within the context of that section. Perhaps something along the lines of "Nowhere" under the Location Arrested column, with mouse-over text clarifying that he escaped. The mouse-over text under TM Given should be removed, as well. Lostdrewid 18:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Or maybe leaving "N's Castle" intact as the place he's arrested, but still including the mouse-over text there. Either works, I suppose. Thoughts? Lostdrewid 18:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Leaving it intact and adding the mouse-over text would be the ideal solution. After all, he WAS arrested, even if he managed to escape later on. Just because I've eaten a cake doesn't mean no-one made it... Nytik 18:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Post-game Giallo

Giallo has two interchangeable quotes.

"Are you and Reshiram/Zekrom building a mutual understanding?"

"Are you not making friends with Reshiram/Zekrom?"

I've basically gotten high happiness with Reishiram (I have Black) without leveling it up, and that does not trigger the first line; I keep getting the second. Can anyone confirm if leveling their box legendary up (to what point, I don't know) is the trigger for the first line (because I'm not doing that, if I can help it)? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 11:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Zinzolin and Ryoku

So if I said they were the two facially visible sages in the opening, would anyone believe me, and if they did, could it be added? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 20:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I remember getting a screenshot of the opening an working that out too. [1] Except that I disagree about the second one being Ryoku, the eyebrows are wrong; I would say he is Rood. --SnorlaxMonster 12:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

If we judge by PokeSpe designs, then that can't be Ryoku. Rood, on the other hand, hasn't appeared in the manga yet, so that might be him. But again, manga =/= games, Yamamoto could be wrong. --Maxim 12:56, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I say Ryoko because his beard was much bushier than Rood's (who also doesn't have the right eyebrows; guy in the opening has thin black eyebrows, and Rood's got big bushy blond eyebrows). And coloring doesn't help at all from the opening, since both are in brown and hair color's the same all round. As for the manga helping dictate who's who, they certainly got creative with the Triad (hair bob over obvious wild hair; masks over black strips); it's not impossible they took their own liberties (again), given we don't have artwork (again). Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 13:17, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Actually, comparing the sprites, the beards look exactly the same, just one is blonde and the other is gray. And Rood's eyebrows are nowhere near as bushy as Ryoku's. In fact, none of the sages are shown to have black eyebrows in their sprites, and Zinzolin is the only one whose eyebrows you cannot see (who it cannot be because he's the other one). Now, Rood's eyebrows are pretty skinny, and the facial hair doesn't match Bronius, Gorm, or Giallo (and two of those have no visible hair on the scalp). And I agree that Adventures isn't really good evidence in this situation, but that's because they turn Ryoku's beard into just a giant moustache. --SnorlaxMonster 13:38, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

They're not the same. Rood's got this little beard and little mustache that's in no way comparable to the huge thing on the Rightside Sage. Ryoko's got something that's a lot wider, therefor bigger. Also, those patches of hair on Ryoko's face aren't his eyebrows. That's his hair. The eyebrows you can just make out the inner start off, because they point out of the mess just about the eyes and get lost in his hair (in essence, they're eyebrows are probably the same size; on eyebrows, Giallo and Gorm's are snow white, Bronius' are pale grey, and Zinzolin's are so close to his hairline, it looks like his hair, but like everyone else's eyebrows, they're patches of color with no outline). On the other hand, Rightside Sage's hair is neat-appearing, much like Rood's and unlike Ryoko's, so on that point alone it's probably Rood. So, dunno anymore. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 14:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Okay, zooming in so far I can see individual pixels, the only difference between the beards of Rood and Ryoku is that Ryoku's goes one pixel higher and has a extra supporting pixel at one point between his beard and the edge of his head. However, the side sprites indicate that Ryoku has sideburns, something which the opening sage is missing. After checking the side sprites, I admit I was mistaken about the eyebrows/hair; it is indeed his hair. --SnorlaxMonster 16:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)