Talk:Defiant (Ability)

Effect

I'm confused about the effect of this ability. If the attack IS the stat that's lowered, is it raised back? Please clarify. --Andy^P_K^M_N 20:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... perhaps the reduction is nullified if it's one stage, or reduced if it's 2 stages or greater?--Black Yin Zekrom 20:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I noticed a discrepancy while looking at the page, but I'm not familiar with editing pages and I didn't want to damage the page. But, on Braviary's page it list its hidden ability as defiant, yet Braviary doesn't show up on this list.Everestbeverest 23:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)everestbeverest

Braviary is already on this list. Third from the bottom. Werdnae (talk) 23:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Possibly Incorrect?

while the article says that self-induced drops do not count, simulators like pokemon showdown suggest that when a pokemon uses moves such as leaf storm and v-create whilst possessing contrary, the stat drops become stat increases. could someone please double-check? Fudgedara (talk) 01:14, 1 February 2013 (UTC)