Talk:Fennekin (Pokémon)

Origin

Fennekin is based on a Fennec fox ;) --PenBlooeR 12:54, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Name

i think its fennel and vixen not kitten! Badwolf1234 (talk) 13:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree, definetly makes more sense than kitten --PenBlooeR 13:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe more fennec and kind (child in german) Milde (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I think its also possible that the kin part is derived from Kitsune. Drop the Tsu and e and you got kin. It also might be from Kinetic as in Kinetic energy.

Another possibility is that Kin is from Kindred as in Kindred Spirit. We all know Foxes and Sprites go hand in hand in japan. Yamitora1 (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm fairly confident that it's Fennec and Kindle, guys. It's the fire starter, after all, you'd expect its name to reference fire in some way. Aielyn (talk) 00:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Think its Japanese name might be a pun on "focus", the Latin word for "fireplace", or its many descendants in Romance languages which mean "fire", such as the Italian "fuoco". TorchicBlaziken ^{(talk•edits)} 16:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, because of the template, we don't need its Japanese name in the name origin section. TorchicBlaziken ^{(talk•edits)} 16:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I think "kin" is from "tele-kinesis" or "psycho-kinesis". It will be confirmed if it's revealed that it's second type is Psychic, however. Tano User talk:Tano 18:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

All 3 starters have been confirmed to be pure Fire/Water/Grass types in their first forms so I'm not sure how accurate this is. It's evolution may still be part Psychic-type though so we'll just have to wait and see! Noah★ (talk) 04:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

'Kin', also might come from, well, 'kin' as in family/relations/breed (as in your next of kin). Making the name mean more or less mean Fennic family/species. Kin being the word that kindred, akin, and kind (as in mankind) are derived from. senefen

Regional dex number

I think after 5 gens of games, its safe to say that it's Pokedex number will be 004 for its regional dex spot. In all the games, the first fire starter has always been 004 in their regional dex. Yamitora1 (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

We also thought that Snivy must be #494 in the Ndex, and look what happened. - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talk • news talk • archives talk) 22:49, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Snivy may not have been 494 in the National Dex, but he was still 001 in the Unova Dex. Schiffy (talk) 14:31, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Whose to say they won't switch it around? Wait until more information is revealed.--ForceFire 14:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

We're not talking about the National Dex, we're talking about the Regional Dex. After 5 generations, the starters have always followed the same template; their regional dex number is 004. The grass has always been 001, 002 and 003, the Fire 004, 005, 006 and the water 007, 008 and 009. Even when Victini came in and messed with the template some to be 000, it still didn't oust Snivy from the 001 spot or Tepig from the 004 spot.

In Gen I, Charmander was 004, Gen II Cyndaquil 004, Gen III Torchic 004, Gen IV Chimchar 004 and Gen 5 Tepig 004 The reason they always give the starters and their evolutions the first 9 spots of the dex is because they're the first Pokémon you get. So with that said, I think its safe to say we can give Fennekin the 004. Yamitora1 (talk) 04:52, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Stock Image

Can we please put this image instead of the other image? the current one looks like it was crushed by two walls.- unsigned comment from Invert™ (talk • contribs)

It's the same file, but for some reason it doesn't update G_G --PenBlooeR 18:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

The server will update the image itself, please be patient. Adyniz — Wanna talk? 18:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Type

Although we obviously can't make any assumptions and put them on the Fennekin page, would it be safe to say that it is a Fire/Psychic type? The move that it used against the Kirlia in the trailer looked a lot like a psychic type move. Cafeolay (talk) 23:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Not yet. Besides, most Pokémon used moves that don't get STAB. PattyMan 23:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

• I.E. Psyduck and Golduck. They learn Psychic moves and they aren't Psychic-types. Also, is there any confirmation that it was a psychic attack? Seriously, I'm curious if there was. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 23:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I realize that it may not be a psychic type, I'm just putting the idea out there. The Psyduck/Golduck analogy is actually a great example. Cafeolay (talk) 23:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. LOL. I'm assuming that this site goes off of confirmed/official info, though it isn't a bad thought. It probably is best to just wait until something official is release on the types and evolutions. But here's to wishful thinking and hopefully not having another Fire/Fighting type starter. XD Until then, I'm guessing we'll have to wait and see. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 23:55, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Design Origin

Shouldn't we add that it appears to be based on a fennec fox? --CoolDudeAl (talk) 01:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Fennekin evo?

Found this obvious speculation, has anything been revealed?Prinben (talk) 20:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Very obvious fake; it says "HeartGold & SoulSilver" in top right.--電禅Den Zen 20:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Kitsune may also be likely origin

Besides being based on a fennec fox in regards to its appearance, I also believe that Fennekin may also be based on a kitsune in mind. It's not uncommon in Japanese mythology of kitsune foxes being able to wield fire power, or 'fox fire' as it is sometimes called. Rai Marshall (talk) 21:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, but weren't Zorua and Zoroark also based off of Kitsunes and they weren't Fire-Types at all. We'll have to see. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 22:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I also think Fennekin is based off Kitsune. Before Fennekin, there was some Fire-type foxes such as Vulpix, Flareon, and the legendary Victini. However, only Ninetales were actually based off Kitsune, especially Nine Tailed Fox, and I think Flareon was more of a dog, and Victini was more of a rabbit than a fox (although it was also based on a fennec fox like Eevee and Fennekin). Special Stage Route (pit stop) 09:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

In regards to Zorua and Zoroark, yes they aren't fire types. Not all kitsune in mythology are depicted to wield the powers of fire, but 'fox fire' is still a fairly common thing. As for Vulpix, it's still based on a kitsune, but based on a young kitsune that hasn't reached full maturity. Rai Marshall (talk) 22:57, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

• I'm not saying that you are wrong, I'm just saying we should wait until we get more info. Never was sure if Flareon was a fox or not...or a dog, looked like a fox, I suppose. If so, I guess it can prove the fact that we shouldn't assume any fox-like fire-types are automatically based on kitsunes. Though I do have a feeling that is the direction they will take with Fennekin (really its evolutions more than Fennekin itself), but we'll still have to see what happens. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 00:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Catch-rate info

How come the article says that there's a -1% catch-rate and not 0% like the other two starters? I feel it should be changed to 0% to match the others. Uncle Edit (talk) 01:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

German Name

Its German name "Fynx" is very likely based on the English word "lynx". The first letter "F" could be based on "Fuchs" (fox), "Fennek" (fennec) or "Feuer" (fire). Maybe someone can add "lynx" to the German meaning? --Perlgia (talk) 09:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)