Talk:Dedenne (Pokémon)

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Hamster ?

Seeing as its got a tail, I think it's more of a Gerbil rather than a Hamster. --Unbirth (talk) 19:40, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

The face and body scream hamster far more than gerbil, but the tail is obviously gerbil. I think it would be best to say it draws inspiration from both rodents. GreatLiver (talk) 22:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I see it as more of a Raichu with whiskers. Maybe we should say that's what it's based on. Me, Hurray! (talk) 22:54, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Why would a Pokémon be based on another Pokémon? Technically yes there are the typical Pikachu-type clones, but that's already in the trivia. I agree that it is probably based on both hamster and gerbil, since hamsters obviously don't have that kind of tail. Another safe bet would be to just say that it's based on domesticated rodents. Rai Marshall (talk) 00:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

That seems too general though. I think the best think is to say hamsters and gerbils. Besides the tail, no one can really tell them apart anyway, so it makes sense that Gamefreak would combine elements of both.CoolDudeAl (talk) 05:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Any chance that it could be, in part, based on a computer mouse? It can plug its tail in, and it's an electric rodent. It seems fairly likely in my mind. Also, the fact that its tail, acts like a wire, and its artwork, in my opinion, makes it look like it's about to chew its own tail, could reference the fact that hamsters, gerbils, and other rodents are notorious for chewing through wires and cables. Those are just my thoughts anyway.--ShinyPatch (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

It plugs itself into outlets. I don't know any computer mouses that do that. It's basically a hamster/gerbil/whatever crossed with a TV antenna. Ataro (talk) 17:49, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, a USB port is not the same, but I still think that the principle is.--ShinyPatch (talk) 17:59, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Just thought. Could Dedenne possibly be a final rendering of the prototype Pokémon - Honōguma. They have made unused prototype Pokémon into real Pokémon many times before. Although Honōguma was supposedly going to be the Fire-type starter of Generation II, they changed the original typing, and design of Stunfisk, so I can't see why it wouldn't be possible that Dedenne is actually the finalised version of Honōguma.--ShinyPatch (talk) 23:56, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Officially, no speculation is allowed. Unofficially, I disagree because I don't see any resemblance beyond what all Pikaclones have in common; also note that Honoguma's name indicates it is a bear, which is nothing like Dedenne. Also, please use link templates instead of [[ ]]. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:26, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks.--ShinyPatch (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

On a side note, Dedenne is also the smallest Electric rodent there's ever been. Pikachu, Plusle and Minun, Pachirisu and Emolga are the same size, Pichu is smaller, and Dedenne is even smaller. Might be because it's a fairy type. --Unbirth (talk) 23:16, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

you could maybe try to describe it as the pikahu/mareep/electrike/plustle or minun/pachirisu/blitzle - unsigned comment from Johnnyboy00 (talk • contribs)

The new Biology section guidelines prohibit describing a Pokemon by comparing it to a different Pokemon. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Possible name origin

Dedenne is most likely a combination of denki, electricity, and antennae. Soincfunt (Talk) 00:14, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Someone updated the name origin to antenne. While this may or may not be the origin for the English name (depending on how it gets pronounced in the anime, side games, etc), I do think the Japanese origin is simply antennae, since the kana are pronounced de-de-n-ne. If they were transliterating the French antenne, it ought to be simply de-de-n. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

dedenne is aldo reminicent of the sound of a man being eletricuted. - unsigned comment from Johnnyboy00 (talk • contribs)

Not really. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Bit to add:

A further description was in the press release, which would be good to add:

"By emitting radio waves from its antenna-shaped whiskers, Dedenne can communicate with far-off allies. It can also plug its tail into outlets to drain electricity from them." ----samm :D 15:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll add it to the special abilities section. --Pokemaster97 15:47, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

sugi art

has the decent quality sugi art been uploaded yet or is it just taking ages to appear? 0danmaster0 (talk) 16:27, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

The new one has been uploaded, it just takes Bulbapedia some time to catch up with the Archives. --Pokemaster97 16:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

English

Is Dedenne also the English name? Or has that not been revealed yet? griffindaly (talk) 19:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Dedenne is its English name, it was the only one to keep its Japanese name. --Pokemaster97 20:00, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok. The "Name in other languages" chart isn't displaying English. Someone ought to add it yes? griffindaly (talk) 03:41, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

That section never lists English on any page. It's for other languages, after all. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Haven't you noticed that with all (don't grill me if i'm wrong, i haven't checked) the cute electric ones their names are the same in Japanese and english. Ziggyangelo88 (talk) 19:00, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, Emolga's japanese name is Emonga, so there is a diference (although very small) --Artichoker (talk) 20:51, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Hope

Will someone fix that page error please, I really want to have it's official artwork not a screenshot of the latest corocoro scan, please someone fix it cause I cant....--Oshawott213 (talk) 16:17, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

It has been changed. Bulbapedia takes a while to catch up with the Archives. Eventually it'll look normal. Please, have patience. Ataro (talk) 16:20, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

what do you mean? it still hasnt been changed!Ziggyangelo88 (talk) 18:56, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

It means that, while the image has been changed from the low-quality scan to the high quality official artwork, it just takes some time before the system recognizes the change, hence why you still see the scan-image. Nothing can be done about this, and it'll probably take another week or so before it shows the right image. It's not the end of the world and people around here really make sure low-quality scans are replaced with official artwork as soon as possible, the system is just not fully adapted to this. Just be patient. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 19:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

To check whether it's been changed or not, click on the image, search CTRL+F "description page", and click on the link it highlights to go to the image's page on the Archives. Once the Archives have been updated with the new art, there's nothing we can do but wait for the software to recognize it and synchronize Bulbapedia's version with the Archives' version. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I will wait, I know it will not be like that forever. - unsigned comment from Oshastar656 (talk • contribs)

Have you really changed the picture? it's been the same since the page was created. Is it just me? --Ziggyangelo88 (talk) 11:13, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

How about now?--ForceFire 11:44, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Anime

It is confirmed to appear in the first episode or second under Clemont's command.RBK (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Trivia

Isn't it a little soon for that trivia?? For all we know it gets an evo in the games.RBK (talk) 07:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

What does having an evolution have to do with anything? Did you forget about Raichu? :P ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 08:03, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

A problem with a trivia.

• Dedenne continues the pattern of small, cute Electric-type rodent Pokémon introduced each generation, like Pikachu, Pichu, Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, and Emolga before it.

I'm sorry, but I wanna ask, is it really appropriate to put an opinionated statement in a trivia section of a website that's supposed to be a Pokémon encyclopedia?

Whether a Pokémon is cute or not is not a fact, it's an opinion. It might be an opinion most people agree with it's still an opinion. And I for one don't think Pichu is cute.

I would remove the word cute off the trivia, but I wanna discuss it first. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't like the trivium altogether (it's a fan classification and should instead be relegated to Appendix:Fan terminology), but nobody else seems to agree with me. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not removing the trivia altogether, however I'm removing the word "cute" since an opinionated word like that does not belong on a site that's meant to be a Pokémon encyclopedia.

If anyone objects, I'll gladly discuss. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:21, 3 December 2013 (UTC)