Talk:Pumpkaboo (Pokémon)
How do we distinguish the size on the field?
I think this is worthy of trivia, and maybe even in the section of Biology. -Iosue (talk) 07:56, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- They look bigger/smaller. It's easiest to tell the Super-Sized ones cause they actually have a slightly altered cry and float higher. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 08:03, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
I suppose there are some objective methods to tell by comparing the circle around the Pokémon. By this point, I can only distinguish between a Super Size from a non-Super Size. -Iosue (talk) 08:06, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Pumpkaboo in Super Size Forme? Super-sized Pumpkaboo? Super Size Pumpkaboo?
This Super Size Pumpkaboo really isn't that grammatic. I don't know, it's not very nice to open up a topic to discuss this but well... So, what are the respective arguments for the naming of this?
- Pumpkaboo in Super Size - Same as Coke in Large Size or Combo B in Extra Large Size
- Pumpkaboo in Super Size Forme - So we treat "Super Size" as a special name for its forme. Consistently, we should say something like Floette in Red Flower Forme if needs be
- Super-sized Pumpkaboo - Super Size is converted into an adjective and put in front of the noun
- Super Size Pumpkaboo - Simply stack the nouns like you don't care about grammar. We will have some Sandy Cloak Wormadam, Blade Forme Aegislash or La Reine Trim Furfrou
- Pumpkaboo (Super Size) - Just avoid everything by conveniently putting up brackets
I don't know about stacking up two to three consecutive nouns in English. I don't recall other European languages that allow it (except terms like King William the Conqueror, where King, William and the Conqueror are all representing the same object; Super, Size and Pumpkaboo don't seem to be the same case). If this is really how English works, why do we need adjectives in the first place? -Iosue (talk) 17:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Supplimentary: Spiky-eared Pichu is named Spiky-eared Pichu instead of "Spiky Ear Pichu" or "Spike Ear Pichu". There comes a reason we convert the words into an adjective before putting in front of a noun. -Iosue (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- "Super Size Pumpkaboo" is fine and probably best. "Super-sized" could suggest it underwent a super-sizing process, which does not seem to be the case. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:33, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
And the argument that supports this claim? I don't know but Spiky-eared Pichu doesn't seem to have undergone some spiky-earing process. Besides, what is a "super-sizing process"? To enlarge? Then we have better terms like "Enlarged Pumpkaboo", which suggests an action of enlargement, because "enlarge" is a valid verb. But "super-size" doesn't seem like a meaningful verb for me. -Iosue (talk) 17:39, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'd just like to point out that the overwhelmingly widespread general usage for forms in the Pokémon fandom is exactly the same as the examples you gave in your objection to Super Size Pumpkaboo. See, for example, the captions under the main template images for Wormadam or Cherrim. See also the form name formatting on Veekun (which abbreviates to "Super Pumpkaboo") or Smogon (which uses both "Super Size Gourgeist" and "Gourgeist-H" in its analysis). Like it or not, part of being an encyclopedia is cataloging how things are normally used, even if that's not technically grammatically correct. (Side note: Spiky-eared Pichu is named that because "Spiky-eared Pichu" is the canonical name of the form, not because anybody in the fandom decided to "convert" it into an adjective. "Spiky Ear" or "Spike Ear" are just plain non-canonical.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)