Talk:Water Shuriken (move)
Discuss > Protect
Today, three editors have added information from the SM demo (just to stress, info available from playing, not only from datamining). Three different editors have undone them, apparently without disputing their credibility/integrity (and I can personally assure it is accurate, Water Shuriken is special in the Demo). All of these edits apparently have been done in good faith. For Aaaaaa123456789 and Pumpkinking0192 in particular, who I know from some of their past contributions, I would strongly assume there is reason and open-mindness as well. What is apparently warranted here is to know whether we want to include the new demo data (stressing again, non-datamined-only data), and if so how. "Has been added/undone before" will not solve that problem. Neither will protection.
So, here's my opinion/arguments:
- Include. It is relevant information. (Independent of the final SM games.)
- Include now. It is relevant now, not starting November.
- Include without DEMO ONLY qualifiers. As long as you see it in-game, there is no reason to believe it will change in the final SM games; that something will change is an assumption, not that it will not. If SM changed anything, we would need to not delete Demo information (as it would still remain relevant for the demo); instead, we should just include changed info as if it changed between core games within one generation (like from DP to Pt in the past). Because it does.
This is a discussion; it aims for consensus, for improvement, for progress. Feel free to challenge what I wrote. Anyway, I do have faith that this may not actually be as controversial as it initially seemed. Nescientist (talk) 08:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Since everything in a demo is, by nature, subject to change, it should probably not be listed in, say, the infobox. Not only it's not definitive; it also doesn't reflect the state of the games as used for, say, competitive play. On the other hand, the info is relevant now, so adding it now does seem sensible. Perhaps it should be added in a separate section/header for now, and edited back into the main page when (if, but most likely when) the info becomes confirmed in November as part of a full mainstream game. Aaaaaa123456789 (talk) 10:33, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
