Talk:Dusknoir (Pokémon)

Hey looking through the Japanese Dictionary I looked up yo & waru and connected it with the possessive particle No ending up with Night's scoundrel Shall I put it on?

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Sprite quality

While it's nice that somebody tried to make the shiny sprite for Platinum, is there another sprite that is better quality? The current one was obviously a recolor on Paint or another similar program, and is missing much of the edges of the body. R.A. Hunter B. 18:18, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

WhiTe BAcKgrOuNd iS pAIn. I'll see if I can get that image removed until we find one that doesn't fail. --Marton_{(I'm Jewish)}imos 18:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. R.A. Hunter B. 18:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Dusknoir can learn Mega Kick

I recently got a Dusclops traded to FireRed, and taught it Mega Kick by a move tutor. Dusclops has feet, but when it evolves into Dusknoir, it loses it's feet and grows a tail. If I were to transfer Dusclops to Diamond or Pearl, then make it evolve to Dusknoir, voila! I have a legless kicking Dusknoir. Would it be worth noting in the trivia that it can have the move Mega Kick despite it not having legs? Or are there other Pokemon with similar oddities to this?--Brats817 08:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Doduo and Dodrio get Fly and Steel Wing, Gastly can learn the Elemental Punches and Wooper gets Ice Punch. But these are all noted in the trivia in their respective pages, so go ahead! I'm Missingno. Master. See my new and improved user page, and comment on it! 11:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool thanks! :D And I will comment! --Brats817 03:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Seen when invisible?

Here's something else interesting I found out about Dusknoir. I was playing Mystery Dungeon 2 earlier, and I was at Spacial Rift. Alot of Pokemon were headed for me, so I ate a Vanish Seed. All of the Pokemon didn't see me and they left, except for a wild Dusknoir. The wild Dusknoir still followed me even when I was invisible. It's like it still sees me when I was invisible. Also, the boss battle I had with Dusknoir and the Sableye, that Dusknoir saw me when I was invisible too. Would this be worth putting in the trivia, or is there other Pokemon that can see you when you're invisible? The only one that saw me when I was invisible was a Dusknoir. True story. If you don't beleive me and you have the game, try becoming invisible in front of a Dusknoir and see what happens. Hmmmmm I just tested being invisible in front of other Pokemon, and so far, all Pokemon that see me when I'm invisible are ones with the Pass-Through terrain ability. So it isn't just Dusknoir. When invisible, these Pokemon can't attack you, but they will still follow you.--Brats817 07:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Behaviour

Should we not add into the behavior section that Dusknoir is afraid of light, as it is shown in Ghoul Daze!. Eevee obsessed 008

I don't think Dusknoir was actually afraid of the light. When Dawn shown the flashlight on Dusknoir, she was also yelling at Dusknoir thinking he hurt Conway. Dusknoir was waving his hands in innocence, as a way of trying to tell her he didn't hurt Conway. He then floated away from the accusation. --Brats817 06:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Confusing Trivia

"Dusknoir and its pre-evolution have the most base moves of all Pokémon, with 8."

Uhh, "base moves"? What the Furret does that mean? SharKing _Productions 19:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Moves that it learns at level 1. Tyro 19:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, OK. The terminology confused me, and it might confuse others. We need to rewrite that detail differently. SharKing _Productions 03:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Try coming up with a different, less confusing term for 'Base Moves.' To be honest, I didn't find that confusing. You can assume that Base Moves are moves Dusknoir would learn at the start. But, meh. The only term I can come up with is 'Starter moves.' Tyro 08:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if 'Starter moves' would be a very good term to use. Then it sounds as if they mean moves that are within a Starter Pokémon's move set. I personally think that 'Base Moves' is already an easily understandable term, but if we were to change it anyways, then I think something like 'Beginner Moves' would be a more suitable phrase.ShadowCloak789 08:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Name Origin Sentence

"Dusknoir's name is derived from dusk and noir, which is French for black."

That would mean that both dusk and noir means black in French. Which it doesn't. I changed it to "Dusknoir's name is derived from dusk, the beginning of darkness in the evening, and noir, which is French for black." someone seems to be against it and removed it. Explain yourself. Synner 05:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

No, it doesn't mean that. If both meant black in French it would have to be:

"Dusknoir's name is derived from dusk and noir, which are French for black."

Or: "Dusknoir's name is derived from dusk and noir, which are both French for black."

Since the singular form of the verb "to be" is used, it is a single thing which is referred to. The itallics also eliminate the third possible meaning, which is that the phrase "dusk and noir" means black in French. Werdnae (talk) 06:10, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Your'e right. Since my mothertongue is Swedish the Swedish grammar I'm used to sometimes deludes me. Thanks! Synner 12:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

What could that attack have been?

In Ghoul Daze, when Dusknoir's eye glowed yellow and he fired that blue orb at the ghost girl, what could that attack have been? I know it was never mentioned what attack it was, but I think it highly resembled Focus Blast, though it might not have been that. Still, would it be worth mentioning that it at least resembles Focus Blast or other similar attack though it wasn't mentioned what it was? I mean a wild Pokémon in the anime may use a move like Scary Face or Sandstorm and even if the move wasn't mentioned, we'd most likely know what attack move that was. Kinda like Paul's Gliscor using Sandstorm (before capture of course) in Riding the Winds of Change and the move name was never explicitly mentioned in that episode. --Brats817 10:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

It looks much more like a Will-O-Wisp (compare with Fantina's Drifblim's) than a Focus Blast (compare with Paul's Ursaring's) to me. Focus Blast in the anime is a near-perfect sphere with a circular ring around it, while Will-O-Wisp is blue fire. Werdnae (talk) 18:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Nah Dusknoir's Will-O-Wisp earlier in the episode was fiery and shot from his hands. He used it to scare Mitchell and Brock away. Fantina's Drifblim also had a fiery Will-O-Wisp. The orb Dusknoir used on the ghost girl looked to be fired from his eye, and the blue orb was round and quite large, and had no fiery effects. It could very well be a different form of Will-O-Wisp, but I doubt it was. But I do agree it might not have been Focus Blast as Paul's Ursaring and Nando's Lopunny both use a Focus Blast from the hands that has a circular blue effect around it, wheras Dusknoir's "blue orb" didn't have that effect. But other than the circular blue effect, Dusknoir's orb did seem to resemble a Focus Blast in color and shape. Dusknoir also seemed to fire the orb from his eye instead of his hands. But then again Dusknoir was holding Angie and Ash to protect them they would've been sucked in if Dusknoir moved his arms to attack. It could possibly just either be a different version of a Will-O-Wisp, his own version of a Focus Blast that was shot from his face, or just another attack similar to that orb. But we may never know for sure until Nintendo reveals what that attack was. Assumming they ever do. --Brats817 08:36, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Like you said, we may never know for sure, but I think it resembles Aura Sphere quite a bit. Not to mention, in the trivia section of the episode itself, it says it highly resembles Aura Sphere. How a Dusknoir would be able to learn that is completely beyond me, but it's certainly something to think about.ShadowCloak789 08:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Theatre masks?

Are the designs on Dusknoir's torso an allusion to theatre masks? It would shed new light on the name, with "noir" referring to the film genre; which is noted for its dark atmosphere which Dusknoir seems to embody. EcstasyovDuskEcstasyovDusk

3D Pokédex Models

In the core games of Generation 6, Dusknoir's model in the Pokédex makes eye contact with the player, as long as its eye is still visible. Is that noteworthy enough to be in the Trivia section? - unsigned comment from LittleOmu (talk • contribs)

I'm inclined to say no, but others may disagree. We don't generally include any trivia about sprites and models, since the reader can see such things for themself in the sprites section. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:12, 20 December 2016 (UTC)