User talk:ポッチャマ

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!   ForceFire 15:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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Dawn's Buneary

I may not be a moderator or admin team so have little to no authority but Dawn's Buneary has been confirmed female for ages so don't remove the gender symbol, and please don't swear when posting the edit summary.--BigDocFan (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I'll echo what BigDocFan said above about the edit summaries. Whatever the argument might be, it is never okay to swear in the edit summaries or anywhere on this wiki for that matter. You have done it twice already. Third time may result in a block. Thank you. Adil — Talk page 08:46, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

NO, BigDocFan, Dawn's Buneary has not been confirmed female, it having a crush on Pikachu or being a feminine Pokémon does not make it female. Force Fire recently change Dawn's Buneary back to" Unknown" here so no you're absolutely wrong and the female symbol doesn't belong on the page, so make sure your facts are correct before you claim someone to be wrong.

As for the swearing I censored it so I don't think it's too egregious.ポッチャマ (talk) 10:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

DP087

Please refrain from adding personal opinions and views onto articles and passing it off as "errors", like you did on DP087's article. What you added was not suitable for a wiki. If you want to air your grievances about a certain episode, you can do so in the forums. Thank you.--ForceFire 06:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Surely you must agree that episode was full of plot holes and the Psyduck were worse than the Muk, did the Psyduck not consider that they were being unethical.ポッチャマ (talk) 12:35, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Partial block

Due to your continuous non productive edits towards DP087 and Psyduck articles, you have been blocked from editing those articles for three days. I've also included Lake Psyduck as part of that list for extra measure. It is very clear that you have a strong dislike for this episode, but Bulbapedia is not the place to vent about it. And your strong opinions about how the Psyduck behaved does not make it fact, they were just being protective of their eggs. A mother protecting their unborn child, if you want to put it that way. I'd also advise you to take these three days to clear your head and cool down, this almost obsessive behavior is not constructive to the wiki. Thank you.--ForceFire 17:00, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

What about the Lake Psyduck page, the word "forcing" suggests that blocking the road was the absolute only possible way (which is not true). At least what I changed it to say onlys says that they blocked the road.

Plus protecting, yeah by blocking only one path and attempted murder with extreme prejudice.ポッチャマ (talk) 17:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Another thing to add "A mother protecting their unborn child" what, so would the human equivalent be tasering people who get within 10 meters (quite a long distance because bear in mind Ash and his friends didn't get that close and wouldn't have had to have gotten so close) of a pregnant woman, yeah what unethical evil Psyduck, they should be locked up, as should anyone who tasers someone with extreme prejudice and then claims to be protecting an unborn child. That's why I wanted the pages to say that the Psyduck attacked Ash and his friends, because they did, with extreme prejudice and I wanted history to judge the evil hypocritical Psyduck harshly, they should've faced a harsh punishment like being eaten by Ash and his friends and eaten with noodles, give them a taste of their own medicine.

As for the change of "real" to "former" I wanted to remove "real" because the Psyduck don't possess legal paperwork to show that they own the land, they're essentially wild animals, wild animals don't own land. In a few days time the Muk would've polluted lake Psyduck and the cartographers would change the name to "Lake Muk" as it's their land now and the Muk would probably change the shape of the lake to be shaped like a Muk because after all it's their home now.ポッチャマ (talk) 23:46, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Force Fire please may you respond to my comment, I don't believe any of my contributions were unreasonable i.e. Psyduck did attack with extreme prejudice and they don't possess legal paperwork to show that they own the land.ポッチャマ (talk) 15:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Bulbapedia isn't the place to discuss your opinions on the writing quality of an episode-- that's why your edits were removed. Hope you understand.--celadonk (talk) 16:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

If you wish to discuss these subjects, Bulbagarden Forums is a more appropriate place for it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

As I said my contributions were not opinion, the Psyduck did attack with extreme prejudice, the Psyduck being forced to block the road, there were many other possibilities at least the change I made only stated that they blocked the road. Lake Psyduck being the "real home" the Psyduck don't have paperwork to show that they legally own the lake, which is why I changed it to former because after the Muk invaded it belonged to them, the Psyduck have no more of a legal right to the lake than the Muk or any other people or Pokémon, so to conclude I do not believe my changes were opinion, I believe them to be valid changes.ポッチャマ (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I hate to tell you, but... those are all subjective takes. If they say that the lake belongs to Psyduck, then we don't really have a choice but to take that at face value. Maybe the legality of lake ownership works differently in the Pokemon world, I don't know. It's not really our place to disagree with the people in the episode about who is the true owner of Lake Psyduck, or discuss how the characters could have done things differently, or put in our two cents about how mean the Psyduck are, or judge what the episode should be like regardless. --celadonk (talk) 22:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Your claim that my takes are subjective is just your opinion, who actually said that the lake belonged to the Psyduck because of course the Psyduck would make that claim. Your use of the word "maybe" in "Maybe the legality of lake ownership works differently in the Pokemon world, I don't know" is just as much speculation, either way the Psyduck obviously don't have a lawyer to fight their case so the Muk should have just as much of a claim to the lake.ポッチャマ (talk) 23:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Another thing to note "true owner" at least the words "previous" or "former" merely state that the Psyduck were once in possession, but doesn't make any claim that the Psyduck were the rightful and legal owners of the lake, it's neutral and lacks opinion because while the Muk occupied the lake the Psyduck were obviously not in possession of Lake Psyduck. Think about it this way if I owned a priceless painting but my friend took it from me without permission even though in may legally be mine I am not currently in possession of said painting (my friend is) so it's FACT.ポッチャマ (talk) 23:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Discussing the legality of anything in the Pokemon world without any laws being explicitly named is pointless. I'm more concerned about your need to insert your opinions (e.g. Psyduck attacking "with extreme prejudice", how the characters "could have" approached a situation differently, etc.) into articles. Bulbapedia isn't the place for that. --celadonk (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

You're trying to enforce real world laws onto a fictional tv show. All this talk of "paperwork showing they own the land" is outright nonsense. I also told you to take the three days off to clear your head, i.e. let this go. Your obsessiveness over this one episode and its apparent evils is not constructive at all, it is very clearly not going to be put on this wiki whether you like it or not. It simply does not belong here. If you continue to make edits where you try to insert your extreme opinions of this episode onto articles, you will receive a site wide block.--ForceFire 06:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay a few things although I'm repeating myself, why did you undo my change to Muk's article we don't know if the polluted lake ever originally belong to the Muk, all that needs saying is that they ended up in another lake, which is fact. Why did you change it back to "forcing" as I explained before "forcing" makes it sound as though that was the only possible way, at least the change I made only states that they blocked the road and doesn't make it out to be right or wrong. Why did you change "previous" back to "real" that makes out that the Psyduck have some sort of right to the lake. In my analogy of the priceless painting it doesn't matter if I have a legal right, all that matters is I'm not in possession of said painting. Having "real" is just opinion at least the change I made only stayed that they once owned the lake but are no longer in possession which is fact.

I just thought of something if the Psyduck are the "real" owners then that opinion implies that the Muk are wrong which is an opinion but my change again only states that the Muk briefly owned the lake.

To conclude "real" is just opinion and ultimately it doesn't even matter if it's the "real" home.ポッチャマ (talk) 09:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Final warning

As you have shown that you are unable to let the issue go, this will be your final warning regarding the subject of DP087 and its associated pages. You have continuously tried to make changes to those articles to fit your view, to the point that it has just become obsessive on your part. If you cannot refrain yourself from editing those articles and trying to push your views through nonsensical reasoning (such as "paperwork" or the Psyduck being " attempted murderers"), then you will be blocked from editing DP087, Psyduck (Pokémon), and Lake Psyduck indefinitely. Thank you.--ForceFire 05:34, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Quick question, how do you know that the Psyduck holding the eggs were mothers? We never saw them lay the eggs, so like with Ash's Charizard don't assume gender, as for the Psyduck being parents, how do we know they are parents? We never saw them mate, so they could have stolen the eggs.ポッチャマ (talk) 14:30, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I'd also like to point out, why are you making wild assumptions, when you admonish others for doing the same thing. You make it very clear we never assume a Pokémon's gender but you did when you said "A mother protecting their unborn child" how, just HOW, did you see them lay the eggs, NO, well don't assume which is why I changed it, they could for all we know have stolen the eggs from other Psyduck, it's possible and wouldn't be too outrageous considering they were rather violent creatures. Bottom line don't make assumptions which is what my recent edits were, but because of you, you added back unknown information, unless we see eggs exit their cloaca don't assume they are genuinely the parents. Thanksポッチャマ (talk) 14:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Fair point on their genders, but they would be parents of the egg if they are protective of it. And mothers aren't the only ones that count as a parent. Your reasoning of the Psyduck "stealing the eggs" or the "eggs not exiting their cloaca" is exactly what I mean by your nonsensical reasonings. What does that have to do with anything? You're looking far too deep into something that isn't there.--ForceFire 07:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

"but they would be parents of the egg if they are protective of it." yeah no, they could be protective of eggs they stole, adopted or bought. Just because they were being protective of something doesn't automatically make them parents, again no assumptions.ポッチャマ (talk) 21:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

(Resetting indent)I would like to point out some hypocrisy on this site, Team Rocket are referred to as "evil" which is just opinion. You made out that the Psyduck's actions were justified as they were protecting their young but if you're excusing them for that reason then Team Rocket's actions should be excused. They are just making a living in this dog eat dog world. So I would like to know why are these adjectives allowed when referring to Team Rocket but not for the Psyduck when saying they attacked with "extreme prejudice" isn't too extreme as they did attack without first establishing whether they were an actual threat.Thanksポッチャマ (talk) 19:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

One month block

As you have shown that you are unable to drop the subject regarding DP087, you have been given a site-wide, one month block. These non-constructive edits are outright obsessive. Trying to push your views that the Psyduck were "evil", don't have any paperwork to their home, aren't adults, stole the eggs, etc.. are just pure nonsense and is simply you trying to get your way. The Team Rocket trio are evil by association, they are not treacherously evil, but they are villainous in nature. Take this one month to cool down and let this subject go, because you are clearly obsessed by it and are obsessed with trying to make your opinions come off as facts. If you return and still have not let this go, you may face a permanent block. Thank you.--ForceFire 05:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Question, why'd you change the wording on Lake Psyduck back to "all"? That suggests that the 11 Psyduck returned to the lake when we only saw 9, so you made it state an incorrect fact.ポッチャマ (talk) 11:26, 22 August 2021 (UTC)