Talk:Galar

Great Britain Flipped

To me it seems that Galar is based on the isle of Great Britain, but flipped vertically, such that the thick end of the region is to the north, whereas the thick end of Great Britain is to the south.

There even seems to be an analogue for London on the north end of Galar.

Despite this, the mountains suggest the Scottish Highlands.

Thoughts?

Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 01:47, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

That seems accurate, although some of the landmarks might have been moved around a bit.

Galar could have an etymological basis in Gael/Gallia. Wiktionary, for example, lists Galles and Galler as words referring to Wales in several different languages, so it seems logical to me. Vulpes Erevos (talk) 06:21, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Galar is Great Britain flipped around with some of the landmarks moved around, for examples...

• The Scottish Highlands are located where Southern England is supposed to be.
• The Manchester City is where Newcastle should be
• The Birmingham City is where Manchester should be
• Liverpool (The snowy city) is where North Wales is

But apart from those minor changes, the location of others are still accurate...

• Kilburn has a Hill Figure of a horse, despite the design being based on that found in Southern England.
• Blackpool, despite having a Lighthouse instead of a Tower, although Fleetwood nearby has Lighthouses.
• Buxton and Sherwood Forest seems accurate enough to me.
• The rows of houses could be Southport by basing the locations on geography.

But aside from all those, Great Britain being flipped should be mentioned on this page, you should say, As seen from the North.

Also to note, one of the names of a lake in the E3 showcase in Treehouse Live has South written, and it's the nearest to the Manchester City and Wall.

Cynthia149 (talk) 02:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Since the release of the Expansion I think it may be better to refer to Galar as "GB turned 180°" instead of just "flipped" due to the position of the Isle of Armor. It is almost precisely positioned in reverse to the Isle of Man, which indicates that going to the West of the Slumbering Weld you'll reach North Europe, which seems to make sense as the place of origin of Zacian and Zamazenta (as Germanic kings, which they seem to refer). Flipped gives me the impression of mirrored more than turned.Monteparnas (talk) 00:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Geographic Locations

As someone who lives in the North of England who have known the Island's geographic locations all by heart, I can help describe to you of which location is inspired...

As the first post stated, Galar is based on Great Britain, but flipped upside-down. Yet like the other Pokemon Region maps based on other worldwide locations, the geography changes slightly, like for example with Galar, the Scottish Highlands and the Southern English countryside has been flipped, and some of the cities have been moved about. Mostly the ones located in the North of England.

The Hometown geography-wise is located where Inverness could be, with the lake nearby being the famous Loch Ness.

The lakeland area north of it I believe is The Lake District (even though it's located at the north-western point of England), which is a very popular tourist spot for Japanese/Chinese Tourists, with a large railway viaduct similar to those found in Scotland.

The wall in front of the First City, which would've spanned across the landscape, in geography-terms is loosely based on Hadrian's Wall.

The First City, whilst some think of it being Newcastle or Edinburgh because of geography, from the architecture, history of steam and industry, the bridges (Castlebridge Canal and Railway Bridges), the red brickwork and the tower (Manchester City Hall), I can tell that that city is in fact based around Britain's third largest city, Manchester.

The area of where the Grass Type Gym is located, with the white chalk Hill Figure of the Legendary Pokemon, is inspired by the Uffington White Horse by design (which is in reality located in the south of England), but happens to be located geography to another Hill Figure horse found in Kilburn, North York Moors.

The Water Type Gym sea town is in geography-terms Blackpool (Blackpool Tower) and Fleetwood (harbour and lighthouses).

The houses north of the Water Type town might be that of Southport.

The icy town with Gym, though located where North Wales is, could be based on Liverpool (Liverpool City Hall).

The Second City is although located Geography to where Manchester should be, is based on the second largest city, Birmingham, with it's many canals, tower (BT Tower) and castle walls that's based on nearby Warwick Castle.

The rocky area with water and Gym could be Buxton, which is known for it's spring mineral waters and quarries in The Peak District.

The fungus forest north of that is the well known Sherwood Forest (Robin Hood fame)

The final city is no doubt-ably London with last Gym and Pokemon League.

https://www.deviantart.com/shironakarius/art/Galar-Region-Great-Britain-s-Locations-788209862

This is all I have came up with and studied within the geography of the map alone compared with real life. Sure there would be other locations, Southern England locations mixed in there, I'm just giving you the basis to the whole scene.Cynthia149 (talk) 21:15, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Galar League

Galar League says Generation VI when it should be Generation VIII. I can't change it myself due to the page being protected. Arctic (talk) 22:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

I see someone changed it, but now it says VII instead of the correct VIII. Arctic (talk) 12:03, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for catching those errors, they've been corrected. --Pokemaster97 21:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Can I please help with the geography?

I live in the UK all my life, and have known many of the locations all by heart, so helping you with the geographic locations could be useful for your help. I've already posted a list above. I'm just concerned that you may get some of the geography wrong. Yes I know some of the areas are based on other locations such as the three big cities are based on Manchester (when it's location is where Newcastle is), Birmingham and Warwick Castle (when it's location is where Manchester is) and London. Please reply back? Cynthia149 (talk) 01:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Galar's Pokemon world location

Am I safe to assume that Galar is somewhere east of Sinnoh? Since there is only East Sea Shellos and Gastrodon found in this region. ReignBough (talk) 09:26, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Editing the page

There’s some information I want to add to the page, but it’s “protected”. Is there any way to get around this or have someone else edit it? MrFeeds (talk) 19:45, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

It's semi protected, new users can't edit the page, until the new year. If you want something edited in the mean time, you can make a request on the talk page.--ForceFire 04:09, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Starter Trivia

Could I put in the trivia section that the Galar starter trio have the lowest base friendship of all starters (50 as opposed to 70).LaprasLaplace 21:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Geography Trivia

I think it is a relevant trivia that Galar is the first region to correspond to more than one country instead of just a part of a country. While the first 4 are parts of Japan, Unova and Alola are parts of USA and Kalos is half the Metropolitan France, Galar covers the entirety of England, Wales and Scotland, or at least their mainlands. - unsigned comment from Monteparnas (talk • contribs)

The problem with that is that the definition of country is loose. All four parts of the UK can be called countries, but so can the UK as a whole. Either way, the trivia wouldn't be true as Sinnoh was the first. It was mainly based on part of Japan, but it included a small part of Russia. --HoennMaster 05:21, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Although I concede in regards to the UK, I still think it should be there in some form. And Sinnoh specifically states that the Battle Frontier isn't actually a part of the region, being more similar to how Johto and Kanto are accessible in a single game but aren't the same region. That puts Sakhalin outside the region. The only thing still to debate would be if the Pokémon League is enough to qualify Khunashir as a part of the region, everything else in sinnoh is purely in Japan.- unsigned comment from Monteparnas (talk • contribs)

Who unsigned my comments and why was I barred from correcting them? Monteparnas (talk) 17:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I din't forget to sign the second post, only the first.Monteparnas (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

You added it after the initial comment post. That doesn't count as signing your post. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I just thought that I'd add that Azure Bay and Sea Spirit's Den in Kalos are thought to be inspired by the Channel Islands, which aren't a part of France. Perhaps a valid piece of trivia would be "Galar is based upon more real-world countries than any other region"? Pale Prism (talk) 21:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

It's only based upon one sovereign state though, the United Kingdom. England, Wales, and Scotland are all part of the same greater independent political entity. --celadonk (talk) 00:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I think Pale Prism's idea still a good trivia to add. Despite sovereignty, other regions consistently depicted just a part of a country, never such a big proportion of it, and never had cities or towns on more than one country, the "extra-territorial" islands being devoid of towns in both Sinnoh and Kalos, while Galar at least have a town in Wales. Even Kalos is only half of continental France, not to mention the French Guiana, Galar only misses Northern Ireland to be the entirety of the UK, keeping in mind that other Crown Dependencies aren't a part of UK. This proportion is certainly an interesting feature of the region.Monteparnas (talk) 00:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

”Galar is the only region to be based upon multiple parts of one country” would be such a specific and non notable piece of trivia to add that it just wouldn’t be worth it. Besides, Kalos is comprised of multiple regions of France— Normandy, Brittany, Île-de-France, etc. This doesn’t work as a trivia point. --celadonk (talk) 13:34, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Not to mention, Johto is based upon two different prefectures of Japan: Kansai and Shikoku. I don't really feel that strongly about the inclusion of this piece of trivia; I was just providing some extra information and suggestions. Kanto and Hoenn are each based upon one prefecture of Japan, Johto's based upon two prefectures of Japan, Sinnoh's based upon one prefecture of Japan and one federal subject of Russia, Unova and Alola are each based upon one state of the United States, Kalos's based upon eight (nine, ten?) regions of France and two (one?) Crown Dependencies and Galar's based upon three countries of the United Kingdom. People can do with that information what they like. Pale Prism (talk) 23:11, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Male Pokémon Professor Trivia

Does Cedric Juniper count as a professor enough to warrant this trivia about Galar not having a Male Pokémon Professor? I mean in the Pokémon Professor article he is relegated as a honorable mention, not listed next to his daughter under BWB2W2 in the same way Sonia is listed next to her Grandmother in SWSH. Heck, the Pokémon Professor article doesn't even mentions Grand Oak. From my understanding Cedric Juniper is retired and is not the active Professor of the Unova Region. If a SWSH sequel came out where Professor Oak shows up in Galar as a retiree, or Grand Oak's lab is somewhere in the Galar region does that null and void the trivia about Galar not having a Male Professor? What are the rules here? Yamitora1 (talk) 12:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

He's referred to as a Professor in a couple of canons and on the Pokémon Professor template. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Number of Gym Leaders

Currently the Trivia says Galar has 14 Gym Leaders, which I guess is the number of characters that you fight at least once while they're bearing the Gym Leader Class. But lore-wise you actually fight 15, since Peony is a former Steel-Type Gym Leader. I think it should be noted in the Trivia, as a quick addendum, although I'm not sure if this happens in other regions that could then change the Trivia further.Monteparnas (talk) 06:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

With that logic you'd have to count Mustard, Klara, and Avery as well. Landfish7 01:53, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Peony isn't a gym leader when you face him, so it doesn't count, and Klara and Avery are only minor leage gym leaders. ----DHP613 01:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

The current count already includes Klara and Avery. The 14 are the 8 Gyms you face, +2 on the other game, +2 that change leaders between pre- and post- League, + Klara and Avery, that do face you as Gym Leaders during the Star Tournament. Mustard is referred as having been a Champion, not a Gym Leader. Peony is referred as having been both.Monteparnas (talk) 07:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

You are correct I didn't realize they were already counting Klara and Avery. That being said, Mustard is confirmed to be a former Fighting-type Gym Leader. However, like DHP pointed out, Peony is not a Gym Leader when you face him and neither is Mustard, and neither of them are active Gym Leaders at any point during the plot of the game. --Landfish7 07:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I didn't saw any reference to Mustard being a former Gym Leader that I remember, just former Champion, where was it confirmed? I'm just curious. Either way it's ok.Monteparnas (talk) 13:43, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Galar Map behind-the-scenes cruft

Just documenting some stuff here about how the map graphics work post-DLC:

• The game manually stitches together five rectangular PNGs to form a non-rectangular map, then fills in the rest with blue. The five pieces are:
  • Galar main area
  • the Isle of Armor (a square map)
  • the peninsula at the northeast of Galar that juts into the Isle of Armor's vertical space (not present without DLC)
  • the western 97% of the Crown Tundra
  • the eastern 3% of the Crown Tundra, because the Crown Tundra is very slightly wider than Galar main area
• The Galar main map changed twice when the Isle of Armor was released. The first change is the train tracks. The second change is that the blank island northwest of the IoA juts into the main area's vertical space, so the eastern part of it is on the IoA map and the western part had to be added to the main map.
• After stitching together the rectangles, the game then does 'post-production' on the map by adding the rough texture, the clouds and waves, and all of the location markers/Flying Taxi markers/etc.
• This is why finding a perfectly-consistent map image will be hard. The game tries to avoid showing you the blank space north and south of the IoA, by jerking the camera diagonally upwards/downwards when the player scrolls to the right. Getting a clean image of e.g. the bottom right corner + the rough texture there might not be possible on an unmodded game. (Example: Take a look at the borders of the rough texture on Serebii's Pokearth Galar map.)
• Note that to scale, the Isle of Armor is smaller than it used to look on this page (back when both the Galar main map and the IoA map were thumbnailed to 200px).

Blueapple128 (talk) 04:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

In Shield, the game also literally takes the Sword map and glues two rectangles on top of it (each depicting one of the version-exclusive stadiums in a different color). Blueapple128 (talk) 05:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)