Talk:Mewtwo (Pokémon)

Nice touch with the line about it not evolving given all the speculation about Lucario. (Argy)

These pages deal with known data, not random speculation. On top of that, there is no history of any legendary Pokemon evolving. --Jshadias 00:14, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That was what I was referring to- the random, unfounded speculation going on at various forums. Before I saw that all non-evolving Pokemon had that line, I thought it was a nice touch to emphasize reality. (Argy)

Wait a minute... what was the second movie Mewtwo was the subject in? (Given Mewtwo Strikes Back is the first) If there was one before it, is there a reason it isn't listed in the movie section? -OmegaPlatinum

Mewtwo Returns. --PAK Man ^Talk 12:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

And the only reason why it wasn't listed in the movie section was because it really wasn't a movie. It was a TV special under the same lines of Raikou: The Legend Of Thunder. 4Kids thought that they could change the wording and certain dialogue so it WOULD seem like an ACTUAL movie even though it really wasn't.

Weedle Mchairybug 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

only one

is there only one mewtwo or is there more?

One per game. One in the anime. TTEchidna 09:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

In the Anime, yes there WAS only one, but it was hinted that they could have made many more of his species had he not destroyed their lab (Random scientist: Very Good, Excellent! Let's work on Mewthree! -Pokemon the first movie). And as for the games, yes, they made it quite clear in the games that Mewtwo is unique and one of a kind (the stadium games and the Mystery dungeon series don't count [and by stadium games, I mean just Pokemon Stadium ZERO (the unreleased japanese version), Pokemon Stadium, and Pokemon Stadium 2. I consider Colosseum/XD/Battle Revolution to be a different series from Stadium.].)

Weedle Mchairybug 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

But in FireRed and LeafGreen, they never mentioned about making another Mew clone. BlueJirachi 14:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, they never had it appear in Gold/Silver, they never had it appear in the Colosseum games, they never even had it appear in the Ranger games. the only games it appeared in besides Gen I and it's remakes is the Mystery Dungeon series and the Stadium games, which really don't count in regards to the games canon (heck, the Mystery dungeon games don't even take PLACE on the main Pokemon world.). and of course they didn't mention making another mew clone, because Mewtwo blew up the place before they could even record the idea. Weedle Mchairybug 15:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

"Born" or "created"

Nevermind, I found them. I was mistaken and Mew did give birth to Mewtwo.--Ceol 16:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

No, Mew did not physically give birth to Mewtwo. Mewtwo is a genetically inhanced clone of Mew. The whole concept of "Mew gave birth" is a metaphor for the fact that after a long time of creating clones of Mew that didn't survive the cloning process, the scientists were finally able to create a living clone from Mew's DNA. --いぬみみ 22:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, but a clone once created, must be implanted on a mother's womb to survive and grow. So, mew actually gave birth to Mewtwo. hfc2X 23:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Mewtwo was never in or near Mew when he was created. He was in his cloning tank until he finally broke it open when he was grown. --いぬみみ 20:31, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Go and read about cloning in the read world and you'll understand. Don't guide yourself by the anime. hfc2X 23:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I know about cloning in the real world, thank you. But by the anime, Mewtwo was in a tank for the first part of his life and no where else. And because he is a fictional cartoon/video game character, there is no other side to the story, meaning if being implanted wasn't shown or mentioned, then it didn't happen. People can make up theories of what they assume is truth but assuming is not truth and fictional characters don't have alternative sides because they are not real. And even if Mew "gave birth", how did the scientists get their hands on a Mew to implant Mewtwo? It was only mentioned that they found a fossilized eyebrow of a Mew. --いぬみみ 22:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

“Mew gave birth” is only in the games. Things from the show (eyebrow, tank etc.) are not relevant to how the games do things. IIMarckus 05:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The anime is based off of the games and the anime goes indepth with almost everything in Pokemon. It was never mentioned in the game how Mewtwo was cloned or if he was implanted. "Mew gave birth" is considered a metaphor for the fact that the scientists were finally able to successfully create a clone of Mew. --いぬみみ 15:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

False. The anime is LOSELY based off the games. Hence the anime's Magnemites and Koffings don't need "partners" of the same specie in order to evolve, Red and Green are named Ash and Gary, and Mewtwo is a clone which wasn't created on Cinnabar Island. - unsigned comment from Spideym (talk • contribs)

The anime is based on the games in therms of major events, such as catching Pokémon, battling, encountering some characters, etc., not because of it shows some Pokémon before the time (such as Kecleon or Wynaut) it goes in depth of everything on Pokémon, it means that it is just media where Satoshi Tajiri wants to give an update of what's coming. So, according to the games (and basing on how cloning works on real world), Mewtwo was born from Mew. hfc2X 01:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Choose to believe what you want but Mewtwo was cloned in the anime and the games and was not technically born. Mewtwo's Red and Blue entry "It was created by a scientist after years of horrific gene splicing and DNA engineering experiments" meaning it was cloned. It was never stated that Mewtwo was inplanted in Mew and there is no proof of that. The book that said "Mew gave birth" is all you have to go by and it's most likely a metaphor and not a literal statement.--いぬみみ 22:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Cloned and born is the same. There is no clone that grows in a tank. If the anime showed something like that is just because it's children-oriented and some children just don't know how they born. Also I don't think it's important either, this looks like a forum thread. hfc2X 04:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

You and I both know that the Pokémon world works differently from our own. So, having a clone grow inside a tank in the Pokémon world is highly possible considering all the other technology that is used. And clones are different from naturally created creatures. They are not created the same way. --いぬみみ 22:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, as much as we say giving birth is a metaphor, etc. At the end of the day, things stated as fact in the anime are NOT considered to be true in the games. In the games, disregarding all evidence from the anime, we are told nothing about Mewtwo's creation other than that it was cloned (I think this first appears in Yellow's dex, but I'm not sure) and that Mew gave birth to it. We also know that these two events are possible to both be true. Additionally, I seem to recall the information about Mew giving birth to Mewtwo being written in someone's log of events - it seems unlikely that they would use metaphors in a log of events. Basically, what I'm trying to say is, based on the evidence exhibited in the games, NOT IN THE ANIME, clearly, Mewtwo was cloned from Mew, and Mew gave birth to Mewtwo.- unsigned comment from Gastly's mama (talk • contribs)

Shiny coloration

Just stating that the gold may have been a poor excuse for a type of olive green or the such, and they decided to define it more in the coming generations. - JWhitt 13:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Wait, how do you get a shiny Mewtwo in Gold and Silver?Shadow1337 17:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure but i think that if your Mewtwo has an IV value less than 8 in your blue, red, or yellow game, and you trade him over to your silver, gold, or crystal game, it will become shiny. --いぬみみ 18:55, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Dodging Balls

I haven't seen ANYTHING on this page pointing out that Mewtwo would actually dodge Poké Balls in Red, Blue, and Yellow. I think it should be included, since it's the only catchable Pokémon that's ever done so. Diachronos 16:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

The only Pokemon that dodges Poke Balls is the ghost Marowak. Poke Balls thrown at Mewtwo can miss, yes, which is different from "break out without shaking"—but this is the case for any "special" Pokemon in RBY, including Snorlax. IIMarckus 22:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

A pokemon that has Dug, Flown, etc cant be caught, and I distinctly remember Zapdos pokeballs--DCM_{((Nag at Me!Edits))}

Not true. I found a wild Diglett using Dig. I caught it. ^ht14 22:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

In the original games?--DCM_{((Nag at Me!Edits))}

In the original games, and in fact all games, Dig and Fly make no difference in whether a monster can dodge the ball. It is based solely on whether the encounter is special (legends, Snorlax) or if the player is in the Safari Zone. IIMarckus 01:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

In the original games, there was a very slim chance of Pokémon dodging, see this article for details. It's limited to Safari Zone, Snorlax and Legendaries (which would include Mewtwo). ←{Berrymaster|Talk|Contrib}→ 22:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure it wasn't that slim. I remember (unless using Master Ball) having to put all legendaries to sleep before the ball would hit them. Snorlax too, but it wasn't exactly difficult to get Snorlax to sleep... Gastly's mama 21:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC) Gastly's Mama

Diet...

No one is really quite sure if Mewtwo even eats, so shouldn't something be done about the diet section? We've never really seen Mewtwo eat. Animine 01:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)