Talk:Rotom (Pokémon)
ROTOM IS NOT A LEGENDARY POKÉMON. DO NOT ADD IT TO THE PAGE.
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- Rotom normal.jpg
Rotom
- Rotom heat.jpg
Heat Rotom
- Rotom wash.jpg
Wash Rotom
- Rotom frost.jpg
Frost Rotom
- Rotom spin.jpg
Spin Rotom
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Cut Rotom
*tc26* 16:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- Could an admin also fix up the new stats-box? Rotom's the only one not updated. — THE TROM — 20:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Legendary?
I know this has been discussed before but since the main argument for Rotom not being legendary was its stats but now that it can change forms (a trait shared with several legendary Pokémon) that all have better stats ("almost making them analogous to evolutions") should this discussion be reopened.--MisterE13 01:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- No. Not a legendary.DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- Shall we bring this up on the Castform talk page too then? What about Cherrim and Burmy? Rotom isn't legendary, it's just the Gen IV version of Snorlax, Sudowoodo and Kecleon (without the annoying blocking of your path thing). — THE TROM — 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- The main argument was the new stats and event status. At least I new better than to edit the article outright. If nothing else, it is the first non-legendary to have had new forms unlocked through events.--MisterE13 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, technically, the official DP Pokédex released by Nintendo/Gamefreak/TVTokyo stated that Rotom was a Legendary Pokémon, but yeah, it's doubtful that it is one. Weedle Mchairybug 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Then so is arcanine. Get working on that childrenDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- Actually, I was referring to this (It still labels it as the Plasma pokémon, BTW.)
- Then so is arcanine. Get working on that childrenDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- Well, technically, the official DP Pokédex released by Nintendo/Gamefreak/TVTokyo stated that Rotom was a Legendary Pokémon, but yeah, it's doubtful that it is one. Weedle Mchairybug 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- The main argument was the new stats and event status. At least I new better than to edit the article outright. If nothing else, it is the first non-legendary to have had new forms unlocked through events.--MisterE13 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Shall we bring this up on the Castform talk page too then? What about Cherrim and Burmy? Rotom isn't legendary, it's just the Gen IV version of Snorlax, Sudowoodo and Kecleon (without the annoying blocking of your path thing). — THE TROM — 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Weedle Mchairybug03:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I realized a while ago that here we didn't refer to it as legendary and respected that, I was just wondering if it was just because of its awful stats as well as the new EVENT status.--MisterE13 03:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
its legendary. duh. sure the booked said delibird was a legendary but in the lineup it wasent there and rotom was there. ArceusEX 20:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- well i brung it up hah ArceusEX 21:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I know this sort of thing brings out the worst in certain bulbapedians (^). But really, what are the remaining arguments? It's stats aren't awful anymore so it can't be that. Also, if this discussion still ends with it not being legendary, could an Admin please add that Rotom is the first non-legendary Pokémon to have an alternate form that requires activation from an event.--MisterE13 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if you look in the deletion log for one of the most useless pages in history, apparently Pokemon.com said it wasn't legendary. And EX, did the book have the official Nintendo Seal on it? Didn't think so. Now, better handbooks, which actually have the seal on them, say that 'Tom is not a legendary.--The Kkllnnator サンタクロース 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know about you, but I think the official copyright that he mentioned is good enough for me. I mean, what's the point in even making a copyright if the person/company in question didn't ACTUALLY create it? Besides, the official Seal of Nintendo isn't going to apply anyways, as Nintendo didn't actually create Pokémon (it was gamefreak). All they did was allow it on their systems. Weedle Mchairybug 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- In that case, could someone please add the trivia.--MisterE13 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- I already did a long time ago. Weedle Mchairybug 23:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- We already decided this, Didnt we? Its not a legendary, unless Arcanine is one (similar species nameDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- It is not legendary, end of story. MaverickNate 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- No, I mean say Rotom is the only non-legendary to be considered "event only".--MisterE13 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- LIES! Rotom can be captured, only his other formes, not officially in the Dex, therefore not new pokemon, cant be capturedDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- To quote the page:"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon." I understand what you mean DCM, but I'm just using what we already have.--MisterE13 01:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- But it doesnt have its own distinctive entry in the pokedex. Therefore, not a pokemon, just a variant of one.DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- To quote the page:"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon." I understand what you mean DCM, but I'm just using what we already have.--MisterE13 01:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- LIES! Rotom can be captured, only his other formes, not officially in the Dex, therefore not new pokemon, cant be capturedDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- No, I mean say Rotom is the only non-legendary to be considered "event only".--MisterE13 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- It is not legendary, end of story. MaverickNate 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- We already decided this, Didnt we? Its not a legendary, unless Arcanine is one (similar species nameDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- I already did a long time ago. Weedle Mchairybug 23:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- In that case, could someone please add the trivia.--MisterE13 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know about you, but I think the official copyright that he mentioned is good enough for me. I mean, what's the point in even making a copyright if the person/company in question didn't ACTUALLY create it? Besides, the official Seal of Nintendo isn't going to apply anyways, as Nintendo didn't actually create Pokémon (it was gamefreak). All they did was allow it on their systems. Weedle Mchairybug 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if you look in the deletion log for one of the most useless pages in history, apparently Pokemon.com said it wasn't legendary. And EX, did the book have the official Nintendo Seal on it? Didn't think so. Now, better handbooks, which actually have the seal on them, say that 'Tom is not a legendary.--The Kkllnnator サンタクロース 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I know this sort of thing brings out the worst in certain bulbapedians (^). But really, what are the remaining arguments? It's stats aren't awful anymore so it can't be that. Also, if this discussion still ends with it not being legendary, could an Admin please add that Rotom is the first non-legendary Pokémon to have an alternate form that requires activation from an event.--MisterE13 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- well i brung it up hah ArceusEX 21:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
(Gettin' cramped) the--vik0z0z 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)n put first/only Pokémon with alternate forms only available through an event. I was just using the wording we already had in the article.--MisterE13 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Double check that.DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
is there any way we can truly find out if it is a legendary or not? vik0z0z 23:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC) and i consider it semi-legendary like unown or lucario.
also the way you obtain Rotom is like most legendaries, because you have to go up to a T.V. and then a battle starts, do you get what i'm saying? and an Bold textOFFICIAL nintendo handbook says Rotom is legendary and Rotom has legendary battle music!!!! vik0z0z 23:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- *refrains from using caps* no, it isn't. The music means nothing. Goodbye.--freezingCOLD (page, talk) 23:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
so, there is no way we can truly find out if it is a legendary? vik0z0z 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) vik0z0z 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) vik0z0z 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Even without the Legendary music, there's still the fact that it was mentioned to be a Legendary in an official handbook that was made not only by nintendo, but TVTokyo and even Gamefreak, the ones who actually created Pokémon in the first place. Weedle Mchairybug 00:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
what i'm saying is that you have to activate rotom (in a way) and then battle him. how many non-legendary pokemon do that!?--vik0z0z 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Snorlax, Sudowoodo. As much as I'd like to think Rotom's legendary, that argument doesn't cut it around here.--MisterE13 21:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
why would nintendo make such a big deal out of rotom in platinum if he wasnt legendary. - unsigned comment from Vik0z0z (talk • contribs)
- To make little fanboys and fangirls argue about it on Bulbapedia talkpages. Look guys, there is no official confirmation otherwise, so we have to take it as unlegendary, as that is what most of the information leads to. Yes, there are points on both sides, but with no official confirmation, we can't do anything. The discussion here is becoming best suited to the forums and further comments will be deleted. Thanks. — THE TROM — 06:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Doesn't that Guidebook count as official information? I mean, from the Copyright notice that someone posted in the archives that TV Tokyo, Nintendo, and even Gamefreak had a hand at making the book. Weedle Mchairybug 10:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Trivia worthy?
On Pokemon Ranger (The first one), In Fall City, there is a young guy in a house in the south of Fall City. He has a picture on his wall which looks like either Freeze Rotom or Heat Rotom. Can someone else take a look at this for me?--Pokelova 05:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thats not really trivia worthyDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
Okay--Pokelova 23:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Cut and Spin Form U.S. names
Serebii.net today got information that two of Rotom's Form names have been changed in the U.S. translation as follows:
Cut Rotom is now known as Mow Rotom and Spin Rotom is now known as Fan Rotom
I just wanted to let you guys you know --Dialgafan1 22:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
Heat Forme
On the official site for Platinum, it says the oven is a microwave oven. I changed it on the Rotom and Form differences pages. YinYang 21:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, well done. *two thumbs up and a big wide grin* — THE TROM — 22:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Umm...Thank you? YinYang 00:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- I always thought it was a toaster oven. A microwave doesn't make sense, because it doesn't use fire to heat food. Aura-Knight 00:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Neither does Ash carrying a Larvitar. But it's from the site so there's nothing you can do about it. — THE TROM — 00:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- On its defense, it's Heat Forme, not Fire Forme, so the microwave does make sense. Toaster ovens don't use fire either, anyway (at least not when functioning correctly).--Kaoz 15:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- I always thought it was a toaster oven. A microwave doesn't make sense, because it doesn't use fire to heat food. Aura-Knight 00:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Umm...Thank you? YinYang 00:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Charon's journal and notes on Rotom
Should I add them on Rotom's or Charon's page, or should I just not add them at all. --AOS 03:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Artwork at top...
Why is it only Frost Rotom?Nintendofan146B 20:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Purge the server, click on the time at the top right of the page--freezingCOLD (page, talk) 20:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Why wash Rotom
The regular Rotom illustrates the Rotom concept better than its other forms. Do you see the sky forme Shaymin as the main picture on Shaymin's page? No? Then put the regular Rotom as the main images on this page! --HideInTheDark 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)