User talk:ArcToraphim/Archive1

I Have a New Idea!

Hi! I just joined to help! I have a new idea for one. How about Brock and Autumn. I also have a suggested name for it! How about... 1. YoungOldShipping 2. TutorShipping 3. BrotumnShipping Tandra88 14:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)tandra88

Tutor would probably have been a good choice. Except Brock/Autumn is already named KitchenMaidShipping. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 03:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

NavigatorShipping???

Why did you change KnowledgeShipping to NavigatorShipping???? Brock and Max know a whole lot more than Gissele (a C.O.D.), and Gary. Can't we change the Gary/Gissle shipping to something like GravelerShipping???? --Theryguy 5 1 2 14:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

-- *eye roll* Dude, we have an official list for a reason (even the out-of-date one on Bulbapedia will confirm that it's been under these name since at least May): so things like this won't happen.

Knowledgeshipping has been Gary/Giselle for even longer than I can remember and I've been in the 'shipping game for years, and someone (not you, because I know who it was) named Brock/Max Navigatorshipping even before it occured to you. There is no changing when it's been that way for that long; you'll have to live with it. Sorry. Luna Tiger

Okay, it's not that bad. I just wanted a reason why we changed it, and you gave me one. Thanks. --Theryguy 5 1 2 14:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

BlueShipping???

What in the HELL made you change DrugShipping to BlueShipping?? Quite clearly DrugShipping made more sence "I'm sick of people not checking and doing things willy-nilly" what the hell does that mean?? I checked to see if there was a shipping like that there wasn't so I made one!! You have no right to change the name so there I'm pissed off Ok are you happy!?!? I want answers!!! I will not change it for risk of being banned but I think that everyone has a choice of what to call there own pages!! GAWD!!! Rucario 64 22:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I Googled both names, but BlueShipping seems to be more common for the Meowth/James ship. - _s.Combusken 22:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I did the same thing and..well... I apologize for freaking out I hope you can forgive me Luna Tiger!! HeHe!! Anyway thanks for at least changing it to make things better for Bulbapedia!! Rucario 64 22:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

...Just...*headsmack* Can people just stop rimming me out and trying to think they know more about 'shipping in the Pokémon fandom than me? I update the damn list; I'm immersed in this stuff up to the gills I should have by now. If I change a name, can we just assume it's for a pritty dam gud reesun and not think they'll be the one to prove me wrong? Pleeeeease? ArcToraphim 22:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Brunette

Alright. It's spelled "brunette." Not "brunett." Next time, heed the warning that questions whether you really want to create a page that was previously deleted. See why it was deleted. Thanks. --ニョロトノ 666 16:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

TRUST ME. Yes, it's a damn misspelling! It's LISTED on the bloody list as 'Brunett'. Brunette is Delia/Jasmine. Did you even read the updated article? I bet you didn't. Forgive me for typing rudely, but I think I know what I'm bloody well talking about. Gary/May is LIST ON THE LIST AS BrunettShipping. So thank you kindly for being far too hasty and for being just another person who doesn't trust me when I change something. ArcToraphim 16:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Go here [1]. Then scroll down to #36, and read it! Read the story if u have to!--Kuki Talk 16:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't read fanfiction. Never have, never will. So are you telling me that it's an intentional misspelling because they couldn't think of a different name for it? BTW, BrunettShipping only gets, like, 53 hits on Google. BrunetteShipping gets 152. --ニョロトノ 666 16:20, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

For one, that's infuriating. And wrong. How 'bout this: you go Template:S, ctrl+F 'brunett' and pay attention that that list wasn't updated since May of '07. And cascade posted that 'fic in Feb of '08. No, I'm not backing down from this. I know the bloddy difference between brunet, brunette, and brunett. Gary/May is listed as Brunett. Give it up. Please.

And yes, it was an intentional misspelling. ArcToraphim 16:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I was talking to Arc--Kuki Talk 16:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, whatever. Carry on shipping. --ニョロトノ 666 16:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Well noone believes in DeliaXJasmine--Kuki Talk 16:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

So? That no excuse. Absolutely not an excuse. Delia/Jasmine came first. They get precedent. It's how the game goes. ArcToraphim 16:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Move War

Knock it off, you two. ArcToraphim knows more about shipping, and I admit that I know absolutely nothing, so leave the misspelling. However, should I delete BrunetteShipping, since it refers to something totally different and doesn't have an article? --ニョロトノ 666 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

It has an article, so NO--Kuki Talk 17:16, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Brunetteshipping should be a redirect, as should Shellshipping, I suppose. It goes against my better nature since they're both claimed, but neither will be getting any articles any time soon. ArcToraphim 17:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

ShellShipping I'll keep as a redirect. BrunetteShipping, however, should be deleted, since there's no connection between BrunettShipping and BrunetteShipping besides the similar names. --ニョロトノ 666 17:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Point taken, but at the same time, you did make the point about the common use of Brunetteshipping on Google. .....I just don't want to keep going through these arguments between people, and if this is what I get for something not many people support, imagine what's going to happen once I find the strength to do something about Farawayshipping (which should be Outcry, but Faraway's in much more use). I'm too old and settled for the crap.

In the short run, Delia/Jasmine will never get an article, for obvious reasons. If it's possible to create a disambig that states Brunette is Delia/Jasmine and commonly mistaken for Gary/May, please go here for article, that I can live with. They used to have similar pages, which 'ships that were couples twice like Luckyshipping, before they became irrelevant. ArcToraphim 17:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Signature

As an admin, I'm obligated to remind you of our signature policy. Signing as "Luna Tiger" is inappropriate, even if it is your nickname. Your sig must reflect your username. You're free to try and get a username change, though. Thank you. --ニョロトノ 666 18:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Just warning you

Yami Takashi gets upset when you revert him. I had a hell of a time with him a few days ago over a stupid last name. If he starts giving you trouble, let me know. --ケンジの ガール 02:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Images

Images from any Pokémon media containing logos of companies, say the Cartoon Network logo on anime images, are frowned upon here at Bulbapedia. Before my block, I found pictures from here [2], andmany of the episode pictures are logoless, compared to your probable direct from TV pictures. That site will have better quality pictures too. hope you find this helpful.--Kuki Talk 17:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware that no-logo-is-betteru, however, I would rather pull images from online streaming sources than pilfer someone else's capture work, even if credited. ...And don't act so pretentious, considering you're hardly one to talk about images. If I could find a source that streamed without the logo, do you think mine would have it? In the mean time, it's a temp until I can find such an image. It's something to work on later. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 19:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Bridgette

do you have proof? -- MAG NE DETH 01:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you have proof it's not? Like owning the game yourself? ...Look, the reason I went on a spree of asking and asking was because someone make a 'ship submission, and outright claimed that it was spelled "Brigette". (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=9230890&postcount=194) I asked around, in hope that someone could clear this up, because I thought it was Bridgette too. No one answered. Except Teradyne. They say they got proof, and if two unrelated people are saying it, and Teradyne saying they got proof, if necessary.... What. Ask them for the proof. I'll take their word for it. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 01:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

why didnt you ask in the BP section on the forums? hell, TTEchidna has the game, hed know. -- MAG NE DETH 01:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Because I wasn't initially asking for the sake of the BP. I went to the game forums. Asked on their "Simple questions" thread. You know, figuring there were more gamers there than anywhere else? Given the context of the forum in question, and all. You're assuming I can psychic-up that TTE's got the game himself. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 01:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I corrected him over AIM.----RexRacer -talk 01:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

that seems a tad condescending Arc. how would we all edit the pedia if we ourselves didnt know everything about the games were writing out? and all in the name of a ship? in the meantime, Rex has looked into it and confirmed it is indeed Brigette. but seriously, next time, ask us. -- MAG NE DETH 01:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

-headdesk- What do you think I did? Twice? In relevant BP places to ask? ...*sigh* Nobody knows everything, and obviously, if there were more people who editted the BP who knew more about BOX than those who didn't, why then, was Brigette's name misspelled for so long? Why would I ask a forum that likely didn't know either, when I wasn't getting answers elsewhere? I went to where I thought I would get the results. I eventually did. Condescending or not, the 'Pedia is thus not the answer to every question. Don't feel slighted I didn't ask the great collective you first, when I couldn't trust the answer that's here.

...And no, it's not all in the name of "a ship". It's in the name of many 'ships that have Brigette in them. The list is directly related to BMGf. Do you want anything reflecting BMGf to be wrong? I hope not. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 01:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

well, we cant always scan every single talk page we see. besides, if you dont get an answer on here, the forums are visited by many people, namely the admins. i guarantee you would have gotten an answer. and while the pedia isnt the answer for everything, wed like it to be. so, just because we skimped some talk pages isnt a reason to get up in arms about something. as for shipping, im not a shipper, so, i dont care about that. -- MAG NE DETH 01:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

No, you can't, but at the same time, it seems plenty of people go to talk pages all the time to talk of perpetually nothing. It's just that no one wants to bother with the talk pages they want to know nothing about. Truth. The matter is done anyway. I'm not in the wrong. I got my answer. I am happy. I'm not getting into arms. I just don't like it when people come onto me and claim I don't know what I'm talking about, as my talk page clearly demonstrates (who wouldn't keep getting into arms when the only time they bother to message me is when they get defensive and say "How dare you?!"). And it doesn't matter if you're not a 'shipper. I've a job to do keeping it as correct as possible. I'd like to think I'm doing that job by maintaining it to canon standard. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

And I've been meaning to thank you, Rex, so, thank you Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

now, im not here to stir things up, im just saying, if a talk page doesnt do it, use the forums. i also didnt know we had a head of shipping, so, sorry. -- MAG NE DETH 02:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

GodisdeadShipping

Yay! One more GodisdeadShipping fan. There should be a page for that when it gets a tiny bit more popular. Zephy Changes 15:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Godisdeadshipping will never get any more popular than various underground bands that only a handful listen to and believe are more superior than mainstream music. XD It's all in the name. The name makes it truly wicked. But a page? Perhaps. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 16:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Oopsies

Sorry, I guess I forgot. My bad. シンジ_ShinjiLover,Edits 22:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Chie

Satoshi is a disambig page because there are two characters named so. Tajiri is just an addition to an existing disambig. As for voice actors, we don't make disambigs just because of their first names because no one refers to them just by their first names. That "what if they think Chie's the surname?" is not a reason. What if someone thinks that "Ketchum" is actually Misty's surname? Is it a reason for a disambig? No. We NEVER create disambigs just because some VA shares a name with a character. We only add VA names to EXISTING disambigs. Hence, there's no need for Chie being a disambig. --Maxim 13:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Ever think if you took a less demeaning course of action, people would actually take you serious more times than not? Saying things like "We NEVER" is belitting (as though you're yelling at a child) and akin to a personal attack that puts people who don't know how to deal with you on the maximum defensive. It also makes you feel you've erected a wall others cannot argue around, empowering yourself to whatever your statement is, which in fact, it can.

Because I would like to see where this mandate that "VAs don't get listed in disambigs when this, that, and these" is dictated (even a solid agreement on a talk page involving Those Who Matter would do if it's not apart of a manual), instead of something you feel should be warranted by your own say-so. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 16:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Personal attack? Don't be funny. I just think there's no need to create disambigs for the sake of creating disambigs. The arguments for "Chie" as a disambig are very weak. If there were two characters with such name - I would agree with it. Or even, if there was more than one notable VA with that first name. But there is nothing like that, a person who could be searching for a "Chie" in POKEMON Pedia would most possibly be searching for Maisy/Maizie/Macey/whatever it's spelt. And it's funny how you completely changed the topic of the discussion, questioning my methods of reasoning. There is no mandate about creating useless disambigs but there should be one (I think I'll contact TTE on this issue) and as long as there's no such one, I'm just seeking for usless disambig and annihilating them. Your advocating of them is ridiculous. And we actually deleted one disambig like that (character vs. VA) - that was Hiroki. I was the one to annihilate it and (despite Maverick Nate's revert) my decision was supported without any further problems. --Maxim 16:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying you're attacking people; I'm saying the way you conduct yourself makes people feel like you are, regardless if you are or not: all guns ablaze, and all that jazz. And see, now you're bringing what you should have brought in the first place instead of CAPS usage and demanding to be right: passive reasons for its elimination (except for that "advocating of them is ridiculous part"; I rightly take offense).

Now, I agree somewhat with what you're saying and I see what you mean, but I have to protest: it's very unlikely that anyone searching for "Chie" is looking for Maisy. Chie Sato is a lot more prominent for being a voice actor than Maisy is as a character (being that she existed a thousand episodes ago and anyone looking for her will likely only know her English name, or will search her out through Kurt, if they don't know her English name).

Chie Sato, however, is still functioning through the series as the occasional voice or various roles and remains a current member of the minor cast. My reasoning for "what if they think her first name is her surname" is logical: you might think such a person to be an idiot, but there are a lot of people who cannot discern an Asian surname from a first name (because it's all Greek to them). Also, if a person's mind blanks and they can only recall "Chie", what then? If it leads to a redirect, they're square out of luck, no?

However, I will concede to the point of not having the disambig (for now). Though I don't believe it's right, only because it plays a part in isolating the Japanese part of the 'Pedia from the English folk. And if you DO bring this up to TTE, be a lad and bring up both sides of the argument, yes? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 17:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

About Barry

On the page it said, "Also, like Gary, his name is taken, in both Japanese and English, from the first-listed default name for his game counterpart in the primary version." But isn't this wrong? The first listed name for the rival in Red/Blue was Blue not Gary. Gary was second. - Kirby Phelps (PK)

Point. Perhaps it needs to be reworded to negate doubts of a pattern; the problem with just saying the name was taken from one of the defaulted list makes it seem like there is no pattern, while that's untrue (and would give way to possible arguments on "how he should have been Damion"). The pattern is the top-most normal name (colors and metals not considered in the general "normal" vicinity) of the alpha version is given to the rival. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

`{{g}}`

Do not get rid of it when it is used to link to games. That is its correct usage.--RexRacer 04:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured that out on my own, belatedly, before you started reverting. Though at the same time, I also figured, why have a template that physically makes the same link as adding "Pokémon" does? If all roads lead to Rome, when it comes to how the article will look with the G template or the word itself, what's the point of using it in the first place? It really is a lazy template, even game wise, if you are using it instead of writing out the darn word. Dreaded é you can just click on the palette. Ooooo, I'm frightened. It's a silly template, if you want my opinion, even if you didn't. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 11:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Manga Jasmine

I've never read the manga, but most of the online resources I've found seem to back up the info on the page. This page, for example. I'll leave it up to your judgment what to do; you obviously know more about this than me. But I don't want to have a big chunk of information missing from that page for too long. --((Marton imos)) 19:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Question

Do you happen to know the name of the ship for Brock and Natalie? I looked on the List of Shippers and I can't seem to find it. Weird, being that I can find Natalie x her sisters... --ケンジの ガール 06:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I have looked and scoured a couple resources. =o Nothing has cropped up. 'Tis free to name, if you want to be the one? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 22:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Pandershipping

Just wondering about this... Why is the shipping called Pandershipping?