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==Examples==
In short, the goal of this new template is to remove the notes portion from the template protection of the main body so that regular users can expand them as needed. (This also has the benefit of preventing every page with the table body from being affected just to change the notes.)

===[[Steelix (Pokémon)#Type effectiveness]]===
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{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Ground
|Normal=50
|Fighting=200
|Flying=50
|Poison=0
|Ground=200
|Rock=25
|Bug=50
|Ghost=100
|Steel=50
|Fire=200
|Water=200
|Grass=100
|Electric=0
|Psychic=50
|Ice=100
|Dragon=50
|Dark=100
|Fairy=50
|notes=yes
|ringtarget=yes
|ringtargetnote={{typecolor|Poison}}- and {{typecolor2|Electric}} moves will become ½× and 1×, respectively
|gen5dark=yes
|olddark=½
|gen5ghost=yes
|oldghost2=½}}

;New
;Generation VI+
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Ground
|Normal=   50
|Fighting=200
|Flying=   50
|Poison=    0
|Ground=  200
|Rock=     25
|Bug=      50
|Ghost=   100
|Steel=    50
|Fire=    200
|Water=   200
|Grass=   100
|Electric=  0
|Psychic=  50
|Ice=     100
|Dragon=   50
|Dark=    100
|Fairy=    50
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/DualImmune|Poison|½|Electric|1}}
|}
|}

;Generation II-V
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Ground
|Normal=   50
|Fighting=200
|Flying=   50
|Poison=    0
|Ground=  200
|Rock=     25
|Bug=      50
|Ghost=    50
|Steel=    50
|Fire=    200
|Water=   200
|Grass=   100
|Electric=  0
|Psychic=  50
|Ice=     100
|Dragon=   50
|Dark=     50
|Fairy=    50
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/DualImmune|Poison|½|Electric|1}}
|}
|}

===[[Blitzle (Pokémon)#Type effectiveness]]===
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{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Electric
|Normal=100
|Fighting=100
|Flying=50
|Poison=100
|Ground=200
|Rock=100
|Bug=100
|Ghost=100
|Steel=50
|Fire=100
|Water=100
|Grass=100
|Electric=50
|Psychic=100
|Ice=100
|Dragon=100
|Dark=100
|Fairy=100
|notes=yes
|lightningrod=maybe
|motordrive=maybe
|sapsipper=maybe
}}

;New
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Electric
|Normal=100
|Fighting=100
|Flying=50
|Poison=100
|Ground=200
|Rock=100
|Bug=100
|Ghost=100
|Steel=50
|Fire=100
|Water=100
|Grass=100
|Electric=50
|Psychic=100
|Ice=100
|Dragon=100
|Dark=100
|Fairy=100
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/AbilityNote}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Lightning Rod|½}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Motor Drive|½}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Sap Sipper|1}}
|}
|}

===[[Azurill (Pokémon)#Type effectiveness]]===
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{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Normal
|type2=Fairy
|Normal=  100
|Fighting=100
|Flying=  100
|Poison=  200
|Ground=  100
|Rock=    100
|Bug=      50
|Ghost=     0
|Steel=   200
|Fire=    100
|Water=   100
|Grass=   100
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 100
|Ice=     100
|Dragon=    0
|Dark=     50
|Fairy=   100
|notes=yes
|normal=yes
|newghost=1
|thickfat=maybe
|newfire=½
|newice=½
|sapsipper=maybe
|fairy=yes
|newdragon=1
|newgrass=0
|newfairy=yes
|newfairyeffect={{typecolor2|Dragon}}, {{typecolor2|Dark}}, {{typecolor2|Steel}}, {{typecolor2|Bug}} and {{typecolor2|Poison}} moves was 1× and {{typecolor2|Fighting}} moves was 2×}}

;New
;Generation VI+
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Normal
|type2=Fairy
|Normal=  100
|Fighting=100
|Flying=  100
|Poison=  200
|Ground=  100
|Rock=    100
|Bug=      50
|Ghost=     0
|Steel=   200
|Fire=    100
|Water=   100
|Grass=   100
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 100
|Ice=     100
|Dragon=    0
|Dark=     50
|Fairy=   100
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Normal|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Fairy|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/AbilityNote}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Thick Fat|½|½|1|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Sap Sipper|1}}
|}
|}

;Generation III-V
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Normal
|Normal=  100
|Fighting=200
|Flying=  100
|Poison=  100
|Ground=  100
|Rock=    100
|Bug=     100
|Ghost=     0
|Steel=   100
|Fire=    100
|Water=   100
|Grass=   100
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 100
|Ice=     100
|Dragon=  100
|Dark=    100
|Fairy=   100
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Normal|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/AbilityNote}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Thick Fat|½|½|1|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Sap Sipper|1}}
|}
|}

===[[Bronzor (Pokémon)#Type effectiveness]]===
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{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|Normal=   50
|Fighting=100
|Flying=   50
|Poison=    0
|Ground=  200
|Rock=     50
|Bug=     100
|Ghost=   200
|Steel=    50
|Fire=    200
|Water=   100
|Grass=    50
|Electric=100
|Psychic=  25
|Ice=      50
|Dragon=   50
|Dark=    200
|Fairy=    50
|notes=yes
|levitate=maybe
|heatproof=maybe
|newfire=1
|steel=yes
|newpoison=1
|gen5dark=yes
|gen5ghost=yes
|olddark=1
|oldghost2=1}}

;New
;Generation VI+
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|Normal=   50
|Fighting=100
|Flying=   50
|Poison=    0
|Ground=  200
|Rock=     50
|Bug=     100
|Ghost=   200
|Steel=    50
|Fire=    200
|Water=   100
|Grass=    50
|Electric=100
|Psychic=  25
|Ice=      50
|Dragon=   50
|Dark=    200
|Fairy=    50
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Steel|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/AbilityNote}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Levitate|2}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Heatproof|1|2}}
|}
|}

;Generation IV-V
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|Normal=   50
|Fighting=100
|Flying=   50
|Poison=    0
|Ground=  200
|Rock=     50
|Bug=     100
|Ghost=   100
|Steel=    50
|Fire=    200
|Water=   100
|Grass=    50
|Electric=100
|Psychic=  25
|Ice=      50
|Dragon=   50
|Dark=    100
|Fairy=    50
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Steel|1}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/AbilityNote}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Levitate|2}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasAbility/Heatproof|1|2}}
|}
|}

===[[……#Type effectiveness]]===
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{{RBY type effectiveness|
type1=Glitch|
type2=L|
Normal=  100 |
Flying=  100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground=  100 |
Rock=    100 |
Bug=     100 |
Poison=  100 |
Ghost=   100 |
Fire=    100 |
Water=   100 |
Grass=   100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice=     100 |
Dragon=  100 |
notes=yes|
glitch=yes}}

;New
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Glitch|
type2=L|
Normal=  100 |
Flying=  100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground=  100 |
Rock=    100 |
Bug=     100 |
Poison=  100 |
Ghost=   100 |
Fire=    100 |
Water=   100 |
Grass=   100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice=     100 |
Dragon=  100 |
Dark=-1|Fairy=-1|Steel=-1|
notes=yes|
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Glitch}}
|}
|}

===[[Glitch (EC)#Type effectiveness]]===
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{{RBY type effectiveness|
type2=Normal|
Normal=  100 |
Flying=  100 |
Fighting=200 |
Ground=  100 |
Rock=    100 |
Bug=     100 |
Poison=  100 |
Ghost=     0 |
Fire=    100 |
Water=   100 |
Grass=   100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice=     100 |
Dragon=  100 |
notes=yes|
glitch=primary}}

;New
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness|
type2=Normal|
Normal=  100 |
Flying=  100 |
Fighting=200 |
Ground=  100 |
Rock=    100 |
Bug=     100 |
Poison=  100 |
Ghost=     0 |
Fire=    100 |
Water=   100 |
Grass=   100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice=     100 |
Dragon=  100 |
Dark=-1|Fairy=-1|Steel=-1|
notes=yes|
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Glitch|Normal}}
|}
|}

===Random showcase===
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Steel
|type2=Ground
|Normal=   50
|Fighting=200
|Flying=   50
|Poison=    0
|Ground=  200
|Rock=     25
|Bug=      50
|Ghost=   100
|Steel=    50
|Fire=    200
|Water=   200
|Grass=   100
|Electric=  0
|Psychic=  50
|Ice=     100
|Dragon=   50
|Dark=    100
|Fairy=    50
|notes=yes
}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Ghost|2|2}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Dark|2}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Normal|2}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Fairy|½}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Steel|½}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Ground|1|Lightning Rod|var=abilityabsorb}}
{{User:Tiddlywinks/Template:TypeEff/HasType/Flying|1|var=iteminvalid}}
|}
|}

==Notes parameter(s)==
First off, {{template|TypeEffectiveness}} has a number of parameters that tell you what happens in a previous generation. I think these are pointless. Just make a separate table for that generation.
* Offensive type changes in some generation ([X]-type moves were [Y]×)
** gen1{{t|poison}}
** gen1{{t|bug}}
** gen1{{t|fire}}
** gen1{{t|psychic}}
** gen5{{t|dark}}
** gen5{{t|ghost}}
* Pokemon type changes
** {{p|magnemite}}
** newfairy (Pokemon that gained {{t|Fairy}}; so, say, Poison-type moves have a different effect before that)
* Other generation differences
** Before Abilities
*** levitate=gen1 ({{p|Gastly}}+)
*** levitate=gen2 ({{p|Misdreavus}})
** Changed item effects
*** flying=ironballiv ([[Iron Ball]] used to negate the Flying type, so effectiveness depended on the secondary type; but since Gen V, Iron Ball just makes Ground-type moves do 1×.)

I also think maybe there are some inconsitencies in what goes into some notes.
* Wonder Guard mentions what happens if it gets {{m|Soak}}ed. But none of the type immunity notes mention Soak. (By which I mainly mean, the type immunity will go away. Of course, most other effectiveness values would change too.)
** Also (I'm not sure this is as good an argument but), if we're talking about Soak, should {{m|Electrify}} or [[:Category:Abilities that can modify move types]] be mentioned as well?
* A bunch of the Ability notes have a "maybe" option (if the Ability in question is not the Pokemon's sole Ability), but that text only mentions the new effectiveness and completely ignores all the caveats (bypass Abilities, suppressive moves) that the "yes" option mentions.

Final general comment: a lot of the current template's note parameter names are fairly cryptic. Like why does "helditem" remove the held item case... Or why does ghost need a "fightingonly" case? So a minor goal of changing up this template is also to make things a little easier to understand.

==Altered effectiveness overview==
===Type immunities===
The form caveat to item-transfer negation only applies to certain Pokemon currently, but new games could easily introduce new forms that are similar.

And none of the non-form item "counters" are accounted for in the current template...
{| border=1 style="border-collapse: collapse"
! Has type
! Neg move
! Counterable?
! Neg Ability
! Counterable?
! Neg item
! Counterable?
! Affected type
! Type counter?
|-
| {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| {{m|Foresight}}, {{m|Odor Sleuth}}
| &mdash;
| {{a|Scrappy}}
| &mdash;
| [[Ring Target]]
| Form ({{p|Giratina}}), {{a|Klutz}} ({{p|Golurk}}+), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Normal}}, {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| 
|-
| {{typecolor|Dark}}
| {{m|Miracle Eye}}
| &mdash;
| 
| 
| [[Ring Target]]
| Form (Mega {{p|Gyarados}}), ({{a|Klutz}}), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| 
|-
| {{typecolor|Ground}}
| 
| 
| 
| 
| [[Ring Target]]
| ({{a|Klutz}}), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Electric}}
| {{a|Lightning Rod}} ({{p|Cubone}}+, {{p|Rhyhorn}}+) (also {{a|Motor Drive}}, {{a|Volt Absorb}})
|-
| {{typecolor|Flying}}
| {{m|Gravity}}, {{m|Smack Down}}, {{m|Ingrain}}, {{m|Roost}}?, {{m|Thousand Arrows}}
| 
| 
| 
| [[Ring Target]], [[Iron Ball]]
| Form (Mega {{p|Pinsir}}), {{a|Klutz}} ({{p|Woobat}}+), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Ground}}
| ({{a|Earth Eater}})
|-
| {{typecolor|Steel}}
| 
| 
| 
| 
| [[Ring Target]]
| ({{a|Klutz}}), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Poison}}
| 
|-
| {{typecolor|Fairy}}
| 
| 
| 
| 
| [[Ring Target]]
| {{a|Klutz}} ({{p|Fidough}}+), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| 
|-
| {{typecolor|Normal}}
| 
| 
| 
| 
| [[Ring Target]]
| {{a|Klutz}} ({{p|Buneary}}+, {{p|Audino}}, {{p|Stufful}}+), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| 
|-
! colspan="9" | Dual-type...
|-
| colspan="9" | {{typecolor|Ground}}/{{typecolor|Steel}}: {{p|Steelix}}, {{p|Excadrill}}, {{p|Iron Treads}}
|-
| colspan="9" | {{typecolor|Steel}}/{{typecolor|Normal}}: {{DL|Pokéstar Studios opponents|F-00}}
|}
{{typecolor|Ghost}} is annoying because the "ghost=fightingonly" parameter is just for Pokestar Studios' {{DL|Pokéstar Studios opponents|Majin}}, who has {{a|Wonder Guard}} (meaning Normal effectiveness doesn't change just because the Ghost immunity is nullified). Honestly...if this format of TypeEffectiveness is adopted, I'd say Majin's Wonder Guard-specific note should just be typed out&mdash;it doesn't need to be part of any generic template. (FWIW...Wonder Guard ''itself'' is also further bypassable/suppressible, as below.)

Iron Ball is damn weird... In Gen IV, it acts like you kinda expect: if the Pokemon has Flying type, then that now has no effect on how damage is calculated (so if the Pokemon is also Fire-type, it takes 2x damage from Ground moves). But since Gen V, if the Pokemon has Flying type and is not under ''another grounding effect'', it takes 1x damage from Ground-type moves; if it has Flying type and is under another grounding effect, or if it doesn't have Flying type, then it takes normal damage.

===Ability immunities===
{| border=1 style="border-collapse: collapse"
! Has Ability
! Neg move
! Counterable?
! Neg Ability
! Counterable?
! Neg item
! Counterable?
! Affected type
! Type counter?
|-
| {{a|Levitate}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]], '''{{m|Gravity}}, {{m|Smack Down}}, {{m|Ingrain}}, {{m|Thousand Arrows}}'''
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
|
| [[Iron Ball]]
| Form ({{p|Giratina}}), {{m|Embargo}}, {{m|Magic Room}}, {{m|Corrosive Gas}}
| {{typecolor|Ground}}
|
|-
| {{a|Flash Fire}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Fire}}
|
|-
| {{a|Heatproof}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Fire}}
|
|-
| {{a|Motor Drive}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Electric}}
|
|-
| {{a|Volt Absorb}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Electric}}
|
|-
| {{a|Water Absorb}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Water}}
|
|-
| {{a|Lightning Rod}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Electric}}
|
|-
| {{a|Storm Drain}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Water}}
|
|-
| {{a|Sap Sipper}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Grass}}
|
|-
| {{a|Water Bubble}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Fire}}
|
|-
| {{a|Thick Fat}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Fire}}, {{typecolor|Ice}}
|
|-
| {{a|Dry Skin}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Water}}, {{typecolor|Fire}}
|
|-
| {{a|Fluffy}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| Non-[[contact]] {{typecolor|Fire}}
|
|-
| {{a|Earth Eater}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Ground}}
|
|-
| {{a|Well-Baked Body}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Fire}}
|
|-
| {{a|Purifying Salt}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| {{typecolor|Ghost}}
|
|-
| {{a|Wonder Guard}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change&mdash;'''except {{m|Role Play}} and {{m|Skill Swap}}'''), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| Super-effective types
|
|-
| {{a|Solid Rock}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| Super-effective types
|
|-
| {{a|Filter}}
| [[:Category:Moves that affect Abilities]] (suppress or change), [[:Category:Moves that ignore Abilities]]
| 
| [[:Category:Abilities that ignore other Abilities]]
| 
| 
| 
| Super-effective types
|
|}