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== Uh? ==
Isn't this the exact same thing as [[Glitch]]???? <span style="background:#5CDDFF">[[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#FF0000>M</span><span style= color:#177245>E</span><span style= color:#FF0000>R</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>Y</span>]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#177245>C</span><span style= color:#FF0000>H</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>I</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span><span style= color:#FF0000>T</span><span style= color:#177245>M</span><span style= color:#FF0000>A</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span>]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]]</span> 02:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 
No.  A glitch is the general term for an error or programming oversight in a video game.  A glitch Pokémon is an error or programming oversight in a Pokémon video game that can be raised, taught attacks, and battled. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Okey Dokey! <span style="background:#5CDDFF">[[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#FF0000>M</span><span style= color:#177245>E</span><span style= color:#FF0000>R</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>Y</span>]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#177245>C</span><span style= color:#FF0000>H</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>I</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span><span style= color:#FF0000>T</span><span style= color:#177245>M</span><span style= color:#FF0000>A</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span>]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]]</span> 11:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 
Glitch Pokémon (In RBY anyway) are not overall harmless--they may corrupt the save file (possibly permanently) upon ''encountering'' them. Capturing them is harmless, some 'dex entries will freeze the game, but the only danger is seeing them in-battle. At least, according to this guide on GameFAQs.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/file/367023/38434
Any thoughts on this? [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 07:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 
Well, I do have a thought on this.  I'm afraid I might get blocked for wording it exactly as it lays out in my mind, though, so here's the general gist of it:  The FAQ LIES!  Glitch Pokémon are completely HARMLESS!  Its the moves some of them can know that do the damage ([[.4]] starting with the move commonly nicknamed {{m|Super Glitch}} has gained it a horrible reputation, given Super Glitch's exceptionally undesirable effect of, worst case scenario, destroying your saved game).  Now don't get me wrong, this FAQ is astonishingly knowelegeble on many 1st generation glitches, but the claims that [[MissingNo.|Missingno.]] can destroy the game?  Absolutely false, even moreso for [['M]] and everything else.  <small><span style="color:#FF0000">--</span>
''[[Glitch Pokémon]].  [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]].  There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!<span style="color:#FF0000">--</span> quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
</small>
::Well, it's tecnically the Glithces/Glitch Pokémon that have the moves, so they are dangerous. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 11:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 
Yeah, the capslock really convinced me that Gunbladelad's cartridge imploded on its own. Of course glitch Pokemon are 100% harmless. Silly question-- how many times have you encountered one of them on an original cartridge? Just wondering. [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 01:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:Me?  Multiple times.  I have a team on Blue of .4, A, LM4, Missingno., 'M, and h POKé.  I have an entire PC box full of Missingno..  I have multiple Kangaskhan, all evolved from 'M.  I have ANOTHER .4 rotting away in my PC.  And both .4 no longer know Super Glitch, and are level 100, and one of them is one of my main battling Pokémon.  And don't forget- RBY are old.  These days, although people are no longer so gullible as to swallow this crap without question, RBY cartridges tend to conk out due to old age.  Everyone, ask yourselves this; if your Red version deleted itself right after you caught a Tauros, would you run around squawking that Tauros kills games?  Didn't think so.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 19:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 
==Other Glitches?==
I don't know if I should have asked this here, but it seemed like the right place. What about the Glitches that Trainers have when you try to encounter them via Gameshark? There is a way to capture those glitches without the use of the Capture Trainer's Pokémon Code, so should these glitches have pages? --[[User:Boxman|Boxman]] 15:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I concur - a bit late. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 
== Notability criteria, redux ==
 
Over at [[Bulbapedia_talk:Project_GlitchDex#Notability_criteria|Project GlitchDex]] I recall that we decided that [[Generation I]] glitch Pokémon are "notable" if they can be caught without using a Gameshark, so we kept the number of articles at the 24 listed in the table here. However, recently I'm seeing articles like $ and ...... appear. These glitches cannot be caught in-game without a cheat device. Now, I'm not for deleting them per se, but y'all do realize that there's about a hundred more out there, right? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 02:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:I would say that those are the only real "glitch Pokémon." They are glitches because the player is not supposed to be able to encounter them throughout normal gameplay. However, anything that requires an Action Replay or similar device is not a glitch pokémon, because the pokémon can not be encountered without cheating. True "glitch pokémon" are the ones from the Mew Glitch and Missingno glitch in gen 1, and the bad egg in gen 4, because apparently they can be encountered in random patches of grass that appear when one is tweaking. To put this in perspective, if I entered a bunch of random numbers/letters into my action replay, started Pokémon Diamond, and the game froze, that would not be a glitch. [[User:Red.Tide|Red.Tide]] 01:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 
::He did not mean the glitch pokémon encounterable by 'random codes' but simply the Glitch Pokémon that ''do'' have their own index number. Some of those Pokémon have data which is so invalid that they crash the game when encountered via the mew trick or correspond to trainers instead; but they still exist within the game. Take Arceus, he was cheat-only when Diamond and Pearl first came out but he still had an index number and still existed within the game. Like 255-151= 104 glitch Pokémon with actual index numbers diamond and pearl have 65536-493 Pokémon with index numbers but most that don't crash the game are varients of 'blank', DP hybrids or Egg, Bad egg. Surely you could change a Pokémon's name with a code to call it 'Cidoof' but that would technically be bidoof but if you use a party modifier code those glitches you get such as 'O' in Generation I are unique. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:::I agree. A Glitch Pokémon is one that is found in the game that was not supposed to be there. Those that can not be obtained without a cheating device are still within the code of the game, but they aer not supposed to be there. Ergo, they are glitch Pokémon. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 
Um, I think that there is a DP box for Platinum With a slightly different appearance than on Diamond And Pearl could Someone please help me post it? it has the ability to corrupt data so be carful, you need action replay to find. I believe viewing pokedex Data has potency to freeze game so be careful, thanks. 15:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Tanya3140|Tanya3140]] 11:40,1 October 2009
 
== Type effectiveness ==
 
I've been looking through different glitch Pokemon, and I've noticed that the type effectiveness boxes display both the dark and steel types. They are both under normal effectiveness for every Pokemon, regardless of whether they would have affected it otherwise, likely due to the fact that they do not exist in generation 1. Is it necessary to even include them in the list?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 00:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:Use {{template|RBY Type effectiveness}} instead of the {{template|Type effectiveness}}. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 01:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== Uh? (Glitch Rhydon) ==
Is it actually a glitchy Rhydon.. or is it a completely different glitch that turns into a Rhydon upon capture (like many other glitch Pokémon)? And if the 8F Glitch's page is being questioned about its notability... well, is this notable? Since I'm assuming it's not actually in the data and is just a random glitch that appears because someone screwed with the memory. :| →''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;"><u>'''T'''</u>inā</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">★</span>]]</sup> 00:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Is it actually a glitchy Rhydon.. or is it a completely different glitch that turns into a Rhydon upon capture (like many other glitch Pokémon)? And if the 8F Glitch's page is being questioned about its notability... well, is this notable? Since I'm assuming it's not actually in the data and is just a random glitch that appears because someone screwed with the memory. :| →''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;"><u>'''T'''</u>inā</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">★</span>]]</sup> 00:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:It actually is a glitch rhydon that shows up as a rhydon when fighting it.[[User:1ted59|1ted59]] 19:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)--
:It actually is a glitch rhydon that shows up as a rhydon when fighting it.[[User:1ted59|1ted59]] 19:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)--
==More Glitches==
[http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/?acquire=legit Glitch city's list of "obtainable without Gameshark"].
We have documented most of these, but it seems that there are a few more that we don't have. I'll make some, but if everyone helps it will be easier. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 08:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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Isn't this the exact same thing as Glitch???? File:Ani234MS.gifMERRY File:Ani385MS.gif CHRISTMASFile:Ani225MS.gif 02:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

No. A glitch is the general term for an error or programming oversight in a video game. A glitch Pokémon is an error or programming oversight in a Pokémon video game that can be raised, taught attacks, and battled. Missingno. Master 02:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Okey Dokey! File:Ani234MS.gifMERRY File:Ani385MS.gif CHRISTMASFile:Ani225MS.gif 11:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Glitch Pokémon (In RBY anyway) are not overall harmless--they may corrupt the save file (possibly permanently) upon encountering them. Capturing them is harmless, some 'dex entries will freeze the game, but the only danger is seeing them in-battle. At least, according to this guide on GameFAQs. http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/file/367023/38434 Any thoughts on this? Billybobfred 07:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do have a thought on this. I'm afraid I might get blocked for wording it exactly as it lays out in my mind, though, so here's the general gist of it: The FAQ LIES! Glitch Pokémon are completely HARMLESS! Its the moves some of them can know that do the damage (.4 starting with the move commonly nicknamed Super Glitch has gained it a horrible reputation, given Super Glitch's exceptionally undesirable effect of, worst case scenario, destroying your saved game). Now don't get me wrong, this FAQ is astonishingly knowelegeble on many 1st generation glitches, but the claims that Missingno. can destroy the game? Absolutely false, even moreso for 'M and everything else. -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master

Well, it's tecnically the Glithces/Glitch Pokémon that have the moves, so they are dangerous. --Theryguy512 11:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the capslock really convinced me that Gunbladelad's cartridge imploded on its own. Of course glitch Pokemon are 100% harmless. Silly question-- how many times have you encountered one of them on an original cartridge? Just wondering. Billybobfred 01:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Me? Multiple times. I have a team on Blue of .4, A, LM4, Missingno., 'M, and h POKé. I have an entire PC box full of Missingno.. I have multiple Kangaskhan, all evolved from 'M. I have ANOTHER .4 rotting away in my PC. And both .4 no longer know Super Glitch, and are level 100, and one of them is one of my main battling Pokémon. And don't forget- RBY are old. These days, although people are no longer so gullible as to swallow this crap without question, RBY cartridges tend to conk out due to old age. Everyone, ask yourselves this; if your Red version deleted itself right after you caught a Tauros, would you run around squawking that Tauros kills games? Didn't think so. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 19:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Other Glitches?

I don't know if I should have asked this here, but it seemed like the right place. What about the Glitches that Trainers have when you try to encounter them via Gameshark? There is a way to capture those glitches without the use of the Capture Trainer's Pokémon Code, so should these glitches have pages? --Boxman 15:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I concur - a bit late. Mattiuscn 17:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Notability criteria, redux

Over at Project GlitchDex I recall that we decided that Generation I glitch Pokémon are "notable" if they can be caught without using a Gameshark, so we kept the number of articles at the 24 listed in the table here. However, recently I'm seeing articles like $ and ...... appear. These glitches cannot be caught in-game without a cheat device. Now, I'm not for deleting them per se, but y'all do realize that there's about a hundred more out there, right? abwayax (t/c) 02:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I would say that those are the only real "glitch Pokémon." They are glitches because the player is not supposed to be able to encounter them throughout normal gameplay. However, anything that requires an Action Replay or similar device is not a glitch pokémon, because the pokémon can not be encountered without cheating. True "glitch pokémon" are the ones from the Mew Glitch and Missingno glitch in gen 1, and the bad egg in gen 4, because apparently they can be encountered in random patches of grass that appear when one is tweaking. To put this in perspective, if I entered a bunch of random numbers/letters into my action replay, started Pokémon Diamond, and the game froze, that would not be a glitch. Red.Tide 01:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
He did not mean the glitch pokémon encounterable by 'random codes' but simply the Glitch Pokémon that do have their own index number. Some of those Pokémon have data which is so invalid that they crash the game when encountered via the mew trick or correspond to trainers instead; but they still exist within the game. Take Arceus, he was cheat-only when Diamond and Pearl first came out but he still had an index number and still existed within the game. Like 255-151= 104 glitch Pokémon with actual index numbers diamond and pearl have 65536-493 Pokémon with index numbers but most that don't crash the game are varients of 'blank', DP hybrids or Egg, Bad egg. Surely you could change a Pokémon's name with a code to call it 'Cidoof' but that would technically be bidoof but if you use a party modifier code those glitches you get such as 'O' in Generation I are unique. --Chickasaurus 14:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree. A Glitch Pokémon is one that is found in the game that was not supposed to be there. Those that can not be obtained without a cheating device are still within the code of the game, but they aer not supposed to be there. Ergo, they are glitch Pokémon. Mattiuscn 17:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Um, I think that there is a DP box for Platinum With a slightly different appearance than on Diamond And Pearl could Someone please help me post it? it has the ability to corrupt data so be carful, you need action replay to find. I believe viewing pokedex Data has potency to freeze game so be careful, thanks. 15:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC) Tanya3140 11:40,1 October 2009

Type effectiveness

I've been looking through different glitch Pokemon, and I've noticed that the type effectiveness boxes display both the dark and steel types. They are both under normal effectiveness for every Pokemon, regardless of whether they would have affected it otherwise, likely due to the fact that they do not exist in generation 1. Is it necessary to even include them in the list?--Skaisdead 00:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Use {{RBY Type effectiveness}} instead of the {{Type effectiveness}}. —darklordtrom 01:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Uh? (Glitch Rhydon)

Is it actually a glitchy Rhydon.. or is it a completely different glitch that turns into a Rhydon upon capture (like many other glitch Pokémon)? And if the 8F Glitch's page is being questioned about its notability... well, is this notable? Since I'm assuming it's not actually in the data and is just a random glitch that appears because someone screwed with the memory. :| →Tinā 00:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

It actually is a glitch rhydon that shows up as a rhydon when fighting it.1ted59 19:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)--

More Glitches

Glitch city's list of "obtainable without Gameshark". We have documented most of these, but it seems that there are a few more that we don't have. I'll make some, but if everyone helps it will be easier. --SnorlaxMonster 08:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)