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==Yay==
==Yay==
Broccoli. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Broccoli. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
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::[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 01:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 01:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::So should they be moved now?  Seeing as the names are finally confirmed, I don't see why not.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 21:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::So should they be moved now?  Seeing as the names are finally confirmed, I don't see why not.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 21:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It's really not fair that it's blocked until March 2011. There are many good natured editors who know what their doing who would love to edit and improve these pages. Now we can't. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 22:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Umm... it's an encyclopedia. There are many other pages that you can edit. And... this argument has gone between autoconfirmed users, so we have to block for said users. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#003366"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#527935"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 22:16, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::How exactly does that picture you provided offer more proof? It looks even worse than the original. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::On the forums, people are stating that they've seen the box themselves at GameStop.  And that they've seen the names, like, clear as day.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 13:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::I'm not a liar, I was at Gamestop the other day spending Christmas money and I saw the box out on display and Pansage, Pansear, and Panpour were the names of the monkeys, as unlikely as it is though, they still could ne nicknames so I'd say wait for official confirmation like on Pokémon.com --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 14:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I found this picture  http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pan_monkies.png  Is that proof? - Zarthga '''January 5th, 2011'''
:::::::.........That's the same picture we've been using this whole time...-__- [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::I've also seen these display boxes; I say we move the pages, if only temporarily. The least we could do would be to have Pansear/pour/sage redirect to Bao/Hiya/Yanappu. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 03:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:I tend to agree here. Sure, Serebii and other fansites are unreliable crap, but physical promo materials in stores? It’s one thing when we are talking about pictures from a convention that only a handful of people have seen, but this involves boxes on display in hundreds, maybe thousands of stores, that thousands of people including dozens, scores, even hundreds of Bulbagarden users have seen with their own eyes, and that almost ANY American can see by choosing to go to GameStop, as for the current Raikou giveaway. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]]
::I think that redirects should be created. However, we will not be temporarily moving these pages; moving pages means that a whole lot of links need to be changed, especially for Pokémon. If they turned out to be nicknames, it would be a huge effort to change them back again. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Once again, why would the post nicknames instead of the official names? What would that serve other then hiding the real name for bullshit reasons?  Tell me in a perfectly honest voice, is there '''ONE''' time that they've used nicknames instead of official names on the box? At all? [[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 17:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
I am happy with the change, but just wondering, when/where(/why?) was it decided to finally go through with this? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 12:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
==Red Link==
Can an admin please change Yanappu disambuntion link  to Pansage Disambuntion? [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 22:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
== Edit this please ==
'''Panpour''' ''may come from the Pan genus and "sage".''
Haha, can someone edit that? I can't since the page is protected. [[User:Mokoniki|Mokoniki]] 16:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:What? It's still fully protected?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 16:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
::Apparently so. I'm unable to edit the page at all. [[User:Mokoniki|Mokoniki]] 16:46, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''P S Y'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 17:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
== Name ==
It may be a possibility that Pansage's name comes from "Pan", The god of the wild. [[User:Mesuxelf|<span style="color:#CD5C5C">Mesprit</span>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<span style="color:#FFD700">Uxie</span>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<span style="color:#0000FF">Azelf</span>]].  Mesuxelf  15:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:Not, really. They may be monkeys, but it doesn't really fit for them. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
== Trainer Chart For Pansages ==
This is my first chart, so don't be surprised if it's a bit fail. I did a lot of copying and pasting from [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style]]. [[User:Pressthebutton|Pressthebutton]] 16:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
{| style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;"
! Trainer Name
! Trainer Gender
! Pokemon Gender
! Pokemon Level
|- style="background: #ccc;"
| Cilan
| align="right" | Male
| align="right" | Male
| align="right" | 14
|- style="background: #ccc;"
| Preschooler Tully
| align="right" | Male
| align="right" | ?
| align="right" | 10
|}
That is completely unnecessary for an encyclopedia. For trainer classes it is completely different.  There aren't 649 trainer classes--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 17:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
: I agree with SandmanDP, seems rather unneeded. No point adding this to every Pokémon page showing who used what Pokémon if the route, city/gym, and trainer class pages already show what Pokémon they use during battle. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 17:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:21, 18 February 2012

Yay

Broccoli. TTEchidna 23:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually it's Willow

it's name comes from willow

appu not so sure...."Ape?"

(and I apologize for my previous mistake) Ataro 00:07, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

In the part of "Yana", the vegetable(野菜/yasai) might be an origin. When the pronunciation of the Yasai(vegetable) is changed, it becomes yana(野(ya)菜(na)). Sawamular101 12:38, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I could understand that, it'd essentially mean Vegetable Ape. Myzou 04:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I beleive Ape is Eipu ***Snozzardi***

My expectation seems to have been crushed by the name of "Hiyappu(Hyacinthus?)" and "Baoppu(Baobab?)". Sawamular101 08:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm almost sure it could be mainspace, but I ask before post it!

Trivia

  • Yanappu was first seen in an image despicting Toys in the month of July, but it wasn't named and nothing was known about it. In the beggining of August a false leak of the September issue of CoroCoro showed this Pokémon again with more information about it, but it was proven false, even though this Pokémon is now know as real. This could prove the leak had actually some true leaked information about the upcoming games and that some of the rest of the Pokémon shown are real too.

(yes.. it needs links xD.. I've been away a while so I'm a little ..off). Thanks in advance. YukitoOoO 03:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

the part about the fake info sounds like speculation.... I think only the first part should be kept Ataro 03:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you're right I guess! Tc26 added it, thanks T!! YukitoOoO 05:22, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Anime

Shouln't Yanappu be added to the "In the anime" section as Dento's Yanappu? --samm -- 23:06, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Derp

So the starters and Legendary Trios get their own group pages and the Monkeys don't? Shiramu Kuromu 23:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

They do, it's in Jello(I think)'s userspace Ataro 23:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
It's in mine (though Jello could have one too that I don't know about). User:Kenji-girl/Elemental monkeys. I'm stuck on what to add to it though. Please feel free to help improve it. --ケンジガール 05:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Protect/Rename?

Serebii just revealed the 3 monkey's english names, which were released via English Display Boxes sent to game retailers. There's a picture, but it's low quality. As such, I'm just wondering if an admin may want to protect the 3 elemental monkey's pages, as Serebii isn't a reliable source for Bulba, as posted on multiple pages, or if they think the picture is reliable enough, rename. Just thought I'd post because obviously people will see it and attempt to change it. Myzou 22:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

It's not just Serebii - it's all unofficial sources of information. We'll just watch the pages for now. I'd rather not lock editing for everyone just in case. If it becomes a problem, we'll deal with it later. —darklordtrom 22:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Blurry? The picture looks pretty clear to me. I just clicked to zoom in, and I can clearly see the names "Pansage", "Pansear", "Panpour", "N" and "Team Plasma".Burnpsy 20:22, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
They could be nicknamed. --SnorlaxMonster 07:36, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Come on. You know it's utter bullcrap. Pokemon on the screens are never nicknamed. And the "official" screens are always direct translations of their Japanese counterpart. But, I know, "we're Bulbapedia. We must deny everything." --Maxim 08:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, these are almost certainly their English names. However, it is better to be overly cautious than not cautious enough. Have these names been trademarked yet? http://www.pansage.com/ has a squatter, http://www.panpour.com/ is open and http://www.pansear.com/ is parked. --SnorlaxMonster 10:12, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish using those as examples... Considering a basic http://www.butterfree.com isn't registered. Myzou 15:21, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Exactly. Registered trademark =/= registered domain. They do not register domain for every single Pokémon name. --Maxim 18:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Croalurk, Spinx, and Shelios. Remember them? That's probably why the admins are waiting for an official confirmation. --ケンジガール 04:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Um, wasn't those because of a low quality scan rather than what is happening with the monkeys? Ataro 04:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
This scan isn't perfect either. The letters look warped. --ケンジガール 04:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I just went to a GameStop and saw a big display box of the video game boxart. The back of the box, which is the same as the normal-sized display box, has a screenshot of the game with the monkeys' names as "Pansage", "Pansear", and "Panpour".
~~LDEJRuff~~(see what I have contributed) December 28, 2010, 2:44 (EDT)

Its true we should change pages to Pansage, Pansear and panpore. - unsigned comment from Pokemonboy3000 (talkcontribs)

No, we should wait.--Pokélova! 03:39, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
We have more confirmation.--immewnitythemew 01:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
So should they be moved now? Seeing as the names are finally confirmed, I don't see why not. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 21:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
It's really not fair that it's blocked until March 2011. There are many good natured editors who know what their doing who would love to edit and improve these pages. Now we can't. --Pokemaster97 22:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Umm... it's an encyclopedia. There are many other pages that you can edit. And... this argument has gone between autoconfirmed users, so we have to block for said users. ht14 22:16, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
How exactly does that picture you provided offer more proof? It looks even worse than the original. --ケンジガール 03:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
On the forums, people are stating that they've seen the box themselves at GameStop. And that they've seen the names, like, clear as day. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 13:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm not a liar, I was at Gamestop the other day spending Christmas money and I saw the box out on display and Pansage, Pansear, and Panpour were the names of the monkeys, as unlikely as it is though, they still could ne nicknames so I'd say wait for official confirmation like on Pokémon.com --Landfish7 14:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
I found this picture pan_monkies.png Is that proof? - Zarthga January 5th, 2011
.........That's the same picture we've been using this whole time...-__- Ataro 20:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I've also seen these display boxes; I say we move the pages, if only temporarily. The least we could do would be to have Pansear/pour/sage redirect to Bao/Hiya/Yanappu. I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!! 03:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I tend to agree here. Sure, Serebii and other fansites are unreliable crap, but physical promo materials in stores? It’s one thing when we are talking about pictures from a convention that only a handful of people have seen, but this involves boxes on display in hundreds, maybe thousands of stores, that thousands of people including dozens, scores, even hundreds of Bulbagarden users have seen with their own eyes, and that almost ANY American can see by choosing to go to GameStop, as for the current Raikou giveaway. --LaprasBoi
I think that redirects should be created. However, we will not be temporarily moving these pages; moving pages means that a whole lot of links need to be changed, especially for Pokémon. If they turned out to be nicknames, it would be a huge effort to change them back again. --SnorlaxMonster 09:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Once again, why would the post nicknames instead of the official names? What would that serve other then hiding the real name for bullshit reasons? Tell me in a perfectly honest voice, is there ONE time that they've used nicknames instead of official names on the box? At all? Ninterror 17:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I am happy with the change, but just wondering, when/where(/why?) was it decided to finally go through with this? --LaprasBoi 12:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Red Link

Can an admin please change Yanappu disambuntion link to Pansage Disambuntion? --Pokemaster97 22:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit this please

Panpour may come from the Pan genus and "sage".

Haha, can someone edit that? I can't since the page is protected. Mokoniki 16:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

What? It's still fully protected?----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 16:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Apparently so. I'm unable to edit the page at all. Mokoniki 16:46, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. --P S Yライダー 17:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Name

It may be a possibility that Pansage's name comes from "Pan", The god of the wild. Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 15:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Not, really. They may be monkeys, but it doesn't really fit for them. Ataro 16:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Trainer Chart For Pansages

This is my first chart, so don't be surprised if it's a bit fail. I did a lot of copying and pasting from Bulbapedia:Manual of style. Pressthebutton 16:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


Trainer Name Trainer Gender Pokemon Gender Pokemon Level
Cilan Male Male 14
Preschooler Tully Male ? 10

That is completely unnecessary for an encyclopedia. For trainer classes it is completely different. There aren't 649 trainer classes--SandmanDP 17:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree with SandmanDP, seems rather unneeded. No point adding this to every Pokémon page showing who used what Pokémon if the route, city/gym, and trainer class pages already show what Pokémon they use during battle. Frozen Fennec 17:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)