Talk:Kiawe's Marowak

Headbutt?

Is it possible that Marowak knows Headbutt too? It seems to frequently headbutt Turtonator in its rematch, and afterwards when it got stuck in Turtonator's weak spot Azure/ChromeVoid42 (talk) 12:06, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

The act of heabutting does not equal the move headbutt.--ForceFire 12:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

it was in battle though, is there any evidence that says it can't be a known move? Scraggy headbutted people all the time too and that's a listed move Azure/ChromeVoid42 (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Even if it was used offensively, it could've been Tackle, Slam, or any other move involving ramming oneself into their opponent.--ForceFire 14:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Marowak?

Shouldn't it be Alolan Marowak? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 17:19, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Not really. 'Alolan' isn't so much part of Marowak's name as it is just a category it falls under. It'd be like having a page called 'Ash's Shiny Noctowl'. Watchermark (talk) 18:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Moveset

Why is there apparently an issue over Marowak's moveset? Not a single move has been placed on the page, despite three of the four used being obvious. Headbutt, Flame Wheel and Bonemerang all appeared clearly in the episode; the latter two matched previous animations while the fact that Marowak's head shone before using Headbutt makes it almost certain that's the move being used. Shouldn't these at least be put? I mean, if it's wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time) we can always change it? Watchermark (talk) 22:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Current Bulbapedia policy is that a move must be explicitly identified in order for us to attribute it. If it's not identified but people still think it has a unique animation, then you should wait for it to be okayed before adding it (anyone can have an opinion; waiting for approval will help avoid edit wars).

Also remember that the moves may be identified in the dub's CCs. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

FWIW, your question in conjunction with an earlier question about the same issue shows exactly why we require explicit identification: You've concluded that Marowak's head shining means it's using Headbutt, while FinnishPokeFan92 observed the same thing and concluded it was Iron Head. You both can't be right, and you might both be wrong. And it will always be possible for disagreements to happen over these kind of "eye of the beholder" assumptions for any move that's not explicitly identified and doesn't have a unique animation. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

So.. Lemme get this straight: The mods decided on a shitty rule, did no announcements for it, AND it applies only starting with SM? Wow, honestly, that's kind of ridiculous. And this rule is kind of dumb because wild mons very rarely have their moves named, so... It's self-sabotage at its finest..--ShallowShaddoll (talk) 23:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)